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Zidane Zidane interview on Canal+
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there is a lot u can control. but sometimes some shit is said and u lose it. doesnt make it right and he got punished and possibly france lost cause of his action...he has suffered from it..apologized and no one is saying it was the right thing or the right time to do it. but he lost it. happens to everyone.
Mike Works
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Ninja Scooter
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Mike Works said:.
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:lol Nice!
Tornado Condor
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Mike Works said:.
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aw wtf :lol :lol
Uh...Mike...
Anyways.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_obj...-bring-me-b-lls-of-materazzi---name_page.html
Anyways.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_obj...-bring-me-b-lls-of-materazzi---name_page.html
Logan Cano
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Zidane´s mama is pure class.:lol
Fight for Freedom, I can tell you don´t play a lot of any sport if you truly feel that way. I´m not giving Materazzi a free pass on this, but this is something that happens in every game and is frequent. It really is so ordinary to hear mom insults that you have to be a complete idiot to let them get to you.
I play football, not professionally obviously, but I´ve heard my share, and every time someone is being an ass, the way you shut them up is through classy, well executed plays. That hurts the other player more than anything. Zidane could have done that, but he preferred to become primitive. Shame....well, not really, since I´m a huge Italia fan.
BTW, if you think people are laughing at Materazzi, well let me put it this way: it´s not exactly Materazzi the one known for elegant passes and dribbles and it´s not exactly Materazzi the one that is so out of character that GIFs explode few hours after.:lol
Fight for Freedom, I can tell you don´t play a lot of any sport if you truly feel that way. I´m not giving Materazzi a free pass on this, but this is something that happens in every game and is frequent. It really is so ordinary to hear mom insults that you have to be a complete idiot to let them get to you.
I play football, not professionally obviously, but I´ve heard my share, and every time someone is being an ass, the way you shut them up is through classy, well executed plays. That hurts the other player more than anything. Zidane could have done that, but he preferred to become primitive. Shame....well, not really, since I´m a huge Italia fan.
BTW, if you think people are laughing at Materazzi, well let me put it this way: it´s not exactly Materazzi the one known for elegant passes and dribbles and it´s not exactly Materazzi the one that is so out of character that GIFs explode few hours after.:lol
Logan Cano said:
I play a lot of sport, in rec leagues, in competitive leagues and I've ran my own ball hockey league for 4 seasons. This is all restricted to baseball and hockey, but NEVER have I heard an insult towards another mother.
NEVER.
I've split up fights, been part of fights, whether in the rink or outside in the parking lot and I've NEVER heard of someone insulting another person's mother.
I play football, not professionally obviously, but I´ve heard my share, and every time someone is being an ass, the way you shut them up is through classy, well executed plays. That hurts the other player more than anything. Zidane could have done that, but he preferred to become primitive. Shame....well, not really, since I´m a huge Italia fan.
So tell me has anyone dissed your mother? Why don't we play soccer sometime? Obviously Materazzi's comment was premeditated towards Zidane...he didn't say it to anyone else, say, with an ailing mother.
Not only is the World laughing at Materazzi, but the World doesn't give a rat's ass about Italy's win because of bigotted ****holes like him, and their loser fans trying to excuse what he did.
Italy won the World Cup! Great! Oh wait...they won via a ****ing shootout? France outplayed them? Well ok, I guess thems the rules...wait, they're defending some ****tard who grabbed and insulted France's best player?
If Italians and Italy fans support such display of cowardice, foul play, and dishonour to the sport of football...they really don't deserve such a heralded trophy.
I don't think you'll see any France fan say that Zidane's actions should have gone unnoticed by the refs, they all agree that a red card was the right call. I have more respect for France and it's fans than I do for Italy and it's fans, based on this one issue alone. And God knows I hate France to begin with.
Logan Cano said:Zidane´s mama is pure class.:lol
Fight for Freedom, I can tell you don´t play a lot of any sport if you truly feel that way. I´m not giving Materazzi a free pass on this, but this is something that happens in every game and is frequent. It really is so ordinary to hear mom insults that you have to be a complete idiot to let them get to you.
I play football, not professionally obviously, but I´ve heard my share, and every time someone is being an ass, the way you shut them up is through classy, well executed plays. That hurts the other player more than anything. Zidane could have done that, but he preferred to become primitive. Shame....well, not really, since I´m a huge Italia fan.
BTW, if you think people are laughing at Materazzi, well let me put it this way: it´s not exactly Materazzi the one known for elegant passes and dribbles and it´s not exactly Materazzi the one that is so out of character that GIFs explode few hours after.:lol
who cares if it is said a lot or not...diff things affect diff players differently. im a very passive guy but that doesnt mean there isnt shit that if said to me wouldnt make lose it.
Battersea Power Station
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Holy crap, man. Not that this has anything to do with the isolated Zidane incident, but holy crap.srst said:
Logan Cano
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effzee said:
You are playing a sport, and you are paid to win. If you let yourself lose your cool, your rival wins. That´s why you should let it slide, because that´s not the game you are trying to win.
srst said:
:lol thats ruthless. But thats how all great ones are. How'd you think Malone and Stockton got to be the 50 greatest nba player?
But I stand by Zidane's actions. Atleast he didn't crap materazzi in the balls like i've seen soccer players do.
Mike Works
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You're easily the most ignorant person in this thread if you honestly think the Italians were the only people in the World Cup insulting other players during games.
Logan Cano
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Fight for Freeform said:
Yeah, I´ve heard it a few times, so?
And you are really reaching with that last comment (and giving Materazzi far too much credit), a mother diss is about the most generic insult one can throw at you, since everyone has one.
And yeah, we should play together, I love football. Well, if we meet someday, it´d be cool. Of course, I´d beat you.
What he said is still pretty much a mistery to everyone. All that has been "confirmed" is that Zidane´s mother is involved, and that´s about it. And I say confirmed, since only both of them know what was said, so it´s basically his word against Materazzi´s.
You are being a drama queen. I have never defended Materazzi, in fact seeing him play at Inter I usually call him "the little angel" at some other forum due to how brutal he can play. If he had fouled and injured Zidane in a vicious way, as he can since he´s a thug whose redeeming quality is that he can play really nice defense, then I´d accept he needed to go.
But come on, all that happened here was some generic diss at his mother, at least so far. Nothing about terrorism has been confirmed, so from what we all know, Zidane should have let it slide and go on playing. I bet, and it´s undortunate, that his reaction was more due to his mother being ill than anything "terrorist" being said.
Also, about winning the World Cup, that is an immense honor that very few experience in their lifetimes. There´s no dishonor about winning it in penalty kicks (afterall, Brazil was just as happy to get when they got it in 94). They are warriors who put everything they had and beat an excellent opponent with their last remaining energies, at that point all they had was their defense and they played it fantastically.
It was the strength of the italian team, rather than individualities, that led them to victory. In particular, I couldn´t be more proud of the team, this is something I waited my entire life to see, or at least since I was 10 that I began rooting for Italy.
Mike Works said:
Yeah, I would be if I thought that.
All I know is that some people are excusing it. These people are all fans of the same team.
In seriousness I have a lot of friends from Italy (in some way or another, or full blooded) that are huge Italy fans and I felt good for them, and only a few defended Materazzi and basically make the same flawed arguement that it's somehow a part of the game.
But it seems on this forum the great majority of Italy fans condone what occurred. Again, as far as what Zidane did, no one is saying that it should have went unpunished.
I'd also be more sympathetic to Materazzi if he was provoked, but he clearly wasn't. He's clearly a poor excuse of a human being and I guess this was obvious to other prior to WC 2006.
No, I think that if we did and I started to insult your mother you wouldn't want to play.
No, they earned a tie as a team. The victory came through a freaking shootout, the absolute worst way to end a contest between two teams in any sport.
Especially in soccer where the penalty shots are pathetic. At least in hockey there's a breakaway so there are other factors such as speed, angle, puck handling, etc.
The best argument I can make against shootouts is...this very World Cup! The lesser team won, and thus shootouts should not be the method to determine the best team. QED.
Teknopathetic
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"The best argument I can make against shootouts is...this very World Cup! The lesser team won, and thus shootouts should not be the method to determine the best team."
If the "greater" team can't beat the "lesser" team when they completely dominated and pressured the entire second half, they're hardly "greater" and don't deserve to win any more than said "lesser" team did.
If the "greater" team can't beat the "lesser" team when they completely dominated and pressured the entire second half, they're hardly "greater" and don't deserve to win any more than said "lesser" team did.
The point is shootouts suck in big-stage games. Note that the NHL does not have shootouts in playoff games, but it does in regular season games. They understand this, even though this last year was the first time they had shootouts!Teknopathetic said:
Teknopathetic
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"The point is shootouts suck in big-stage games. Note that the NHL does not have shootouts in playoff games, but it does in regular season games. They understand this, even though this last year was the first time they had shootouts!"
It's true, shootouts are painfully uninteresting. However, I question how many of these complaints we'd have about an "undeserving team" winning via Penalty Kicks from those complaining had France won.
My guess? 2, tops. Of course, given the current result, they'll say "I've always had this opinion!"
It's true, shootouts are painfully uninteresting. However, I question how many of these complaints we'd have about an "undeserving team" winning via Penalty Kicks from those complaining had France won.
My guess? 2, tops. Of course, given the current result, they'll say "I've always had this opinion!"
Teknopathetic
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"You're point is moot as the "greater" team didn't deserve to make it to the finals to begin with."
That doesn't make anything moot, it's a completely irrelevant opinion.
And you cut the feet from underneath that statement when you already called Italy the "lesser" team and that France outplayed them.
That doesn't make anything moot, it's a completely irrelevant opinion.
And you cut the feet from underneath that statement when you already called Italy the "lesser" team and that France outplayed them.
MrSardonic
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Materazzi is one of the dirtiest players of the last decade. He consistently makes intentional attempts to injure other players with ruthless physical challenges and is well known as a player who makes exceptionally offensive insults. He has absolutely no respect for other players.
As Zidane said in his interview - he has heard all kinds of insults throughout his career, but these insults were of an unacceptable nature to him and were repeated 3 times (and not in jest). The sour note on which Italy won the world cup is only worsened by the comments of the Vice President of the Italian senate who was reported in the newspapers as saying that Italy had beaten a team of blacks, islamists, and communists - making a mockery of the entire them of the tournament they just won.
As Zidane said in his interview - he has heard all kinds of insults throughout his career, but these insults were of an unacceptable nature to him and were repeated 3 times (and not in jest). The sour note on which Italy won the world cup is only worsened by the comments of the Vice President of the Italian senate who was reported in the newspapers as saying that Italy had beaten a team of blacks, islamists, and communists - making a mockery of the entire them of the tournament they just won.
I don't think the insults alone drove Zidane over the edge. I think it was the insults combined with the fact that his mothe was in the hospital. Who knows though, maybe the titty twister set him off or maybe he just went insane for a few seconds?
Now if this was Italy's captain, I probably would have given him the benefit of the doubt and just blamed Zizou for going insane by himself. But Materazzi doesn't have a good reputation to begin with.
Now if this was Italy's captain, I probably would have given him the benefit of the doubt and just blamed Zizou for going insane by himself. But Materazzi doesn't have a good reputation to begin with.
deadhorse32
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MrSardonic said:
First the guy Roberto Calderoli has not been the vice-president of the senate since 2004.
Second the guy is a total racist/facist/right-wing scum, he even hate Italy (he is pushing for the separation of the north/south). He is akin to Jean-Marie Lepen in France (who probably hate the french team and zidane because they are not real french by his standard)
You should stop quoting him.
Milhouse31 said:
Sardonic isn't concerned with getting his facts correct. He only wants to spew hate about Italy because we won the World Cup. Get over it Sardonic, Italia are World Champions and there's nothing "tainted" about the victory at all. The only bad smell from the entire tournament is the foolish headbutt that Zidane ended his career on.
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Fight for Freeform said:
Riiiiight. All I've seen on talk shows and in the press is how trash talking is a part of the sport and should be expected but headbutting is sort of frowned upon. People are actually calling Zidane the fool and laughing at him for ending his career like a moron.
Fight for Freeform said:
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Dishonour to the sport of football? Trash talking?? LOL. You're telling me that trash talking is a worse dishonour to football then outright headbutting a guy in the chest?
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mashoutposse
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sonicfan said:Zidane headbutt outrage: new video evidence
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lachesis
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I agree on Zidane's red-card severly gave a real cold shower for French team's spirit. It's not a gurantee that they would have scored additionally or even won the penalty - as we all know how much penalty has to rely on luck and spirit at the same time - but it is a good possibility french might have won. However, possibility is just a possibility, and Zidane has no excuse for his expulsion, even if it was racial remark (which apparently is not). What's done is done, and Zidane paid for it by losing the WC, respect from a lot of people, and ruined retirement with big scandal.
However, I'm totaly on Zidane's side, and I understand why he would retaliate like the way he did. One thing that I argue since yesterday, is severe trash-talking has no place in sports. Provoking someone is one thing, and insulting someone is another, and I wish there will be no such incident from now on - because they both are totally uncalled for in any sports.
However, I'm totaly on Zidane's side, and I understand why he would retaliate like the way he did. One thing that I argue since yesterday, is severe trash-talking has no place in sports. Provoking someone is one thing, and insulting someone is another, and I wish there will be no such incident from now on - because they both are totally uncalled for in any sports.
I think he was fair. He admits the action was unforgivable, but shouldn't feel bad if he felt it was justified. Somethings there's justification for bad acts. He's still very much in the wrong here, but I can understand where he's coming from. Insulting someone's mom is always asking to be smacked. It's not the right thing to do IMO, but you know there are some people that take such insults personally. She has nothing to do with the game, so Mazerrati deserved to be decked. This will be brought up when talking about his legacy, but it won't even come close to overshadowing what has been a Hall of Fame career. I wonder if Trezeguet was picked to replace him in the pk's. That would just add insult to injury. PEACE.
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