Not75Drops
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Did they ever say if that was the whole roster?
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 12: Gwah, hah. Welcome to the Bowser's game.
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Exactly.
OricWindstar
Member
I still feel like we'll get a newcomer next week, so hopefully it sheds some light.
Lunchbillion
Member
Aah... this leak looks pretty damn convincing. That Dr. Mario render in particular looks amazing. At the same time, for some reason I'm not quite on board yet. That Falco bothers me for some reason.
#TeamAgnostic
#TeamAgnostic
They're either in full panic-mode or they're laughing their asses off.
Wouldn't you love that kind of freedom?
Too bad you're so busy obsessing over your pony avatar that you love more than life itself.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
It's full roster according to this guy, and DLC list is fake due to someone else made up the list.
I'vr never understood this. What did Snake do to bump Brawl up to a T rating at all? Just....being Snake?
Brawl's overall tone is what got it rated T. Things like blood on Master Hand and shit.
It's in the same position in the video...sitting still. Both seem to be stagnant photos.
But OK, fine. I compared the two selections for stages too and it's off there too.
Really similar, but slightly off.
That's what has me not counting this leak out yet. He didn't do a single good looking fake render, he did 12, the only one of which that looks questionable to me being G&W. Between that and Brinstar it's hard to throw it all away over the UI inconsistencies.
KelpPlankton
Member
It's in the same position in the video...sitting still. Both seem to be stagnant photos.
But OK, fine. I compared the two selections for stages too and it's off there too.
Really similar, but slightly off.
Keep in mind the game's UI has probably changed quite a bit since E3, that's usually one of the last things to get finalized in a game.
I'd say give it a try first with that "Easy Ring" patch. If it's still too tough to stomach, I guess you could do that or just read up on the game and skip to EarthBound, then Mother 3.
The Jigglypuff and Dr. Mario renders have already been sourced earlier in the thread (or if you want to give the "leak" the most benefit of the doubt possible, their inspirations).
MaverickHunterAsh
Member
Yep. For exactly these reasons, I'm very hesitantly and begrudgingly on #TeamReal. :/
Sources and inspirations are different, though.
The Great Gonzales
Member
If DHD is in the game, I want him looking like that. The Mii Fighter menu pic looks really good, too.
Also, I'm sorry for grilling you like that. When I posted that, I thought you were the leaker. With all the confusion, I didn't realize it originated from 4chan or wherever and that you were just the messenger. Sorry!
Baron von Loathsome
Member
I'm just gonna say it, I'm on #TeamWTF.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
If you actually think that I'm annoyed with pony avatar or lack of ability to change avatar. I regret to inform you that it's not.
If you find it then let me know.
Sketch_Turntable
Member
via old Reddit post
That fact that it isn't using exact copies of elements from the old build isn't necessarily a strike against it. It's way easier to go for the known details than it is to alter them a little. The real game will probably have some minute interface differences too.It's in the same position in the video...sitting still. Both seem to be stagnant photos.
But OK, fine. I compared the two selections for stages too and it's off there too.
Really similar, but slightly off.
theprodigy
Member
They're probably laughing their asses off right now while sipping some wine
and dying in The Lost Levels repeatedly
OricWindstar
Member
Is it just the Chorus Kids cut bothering you?
That's just their inspirations, the Dr. Mario render is in a different pose, and Jigglypuff is just in the same pose, which isn't all that odd, considering Greninja shares his pose with his official artwork.
Legendarylemur
Member
Isn't the fact that the icons are slightly inconsistent a better proof of this being real? What kinda guy also thinks to create a completely new and real looking icon taking into account the angle and the distortion and all that? Sounds a bit too OCD, unless the supposed faker has OCD.
I think the theory is (I stress the word theory) that in the event Lucas/Wolf are cut, it's not because Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, and Lucina were prioritized over them. It's because those three characters would already, essentially, have their model created and based off of existing character's skeletons. The theory is that Dr. Mario and Dark Pit were originally alt costumes and then promoted to actual characters (much like Lucina) because of how much less work would be involved to make them work vs. having to recreate Lucas and Wolf (as it was, Sakurai already admitted a year or two ago that creating veteran characters is not simply porting the character over -- it's equivalent to making a new character, or at least the same amount of work).
The truth of the matter is, none of the vets are just "ported" over. Yes, all their attacks and everything exist already so the conceptual phase is completely cut out for veterans but animating, programming, and modeling are still very much things the development team have to do. I really doubt they're reusing the exact same files as Brawl for characters (as in the .pacs and everything else). They might have started from Brawl's foundation (the engine) but reusing character files sounds like a generally bad idea if you want to go back and change the characters in any way. Especially because Brawl's character coding is so rooted in a bunch of ASM, routines, reference points, and goes through all these other files in the game.
In fact, there's reason to believe that because Brawl doesn't share the same file types as Melee's character files if I recall. So, even with Brawl for Melee vets they redid them completely from scratch (in a sense). This is even more evident because Melee's animation files are .dae and not what Brawl uses (which are .cr0? I think?)
Anyway, the point is... while it would be logical to make the characters future-proof for changing and easy-to-port to a future game it doesn't work that way.
Darn it Heath, feel the pain of losing the bet, lol.
The Waluigi one was way better/worse though.
Palutena and Lucina also share the same pose as their official art.
Karsticles
Member
What is the DLC list from this supposed leak?
Has anyone reverse image searched some cropped parts of these images?
Has anyone reverse image searched some cropped parts of these images?
InvincibleAgent
Member
Zero results when I tried.
LMAO
IAmtheFMan
Member
Regardless of whether this is fake or real, I think that there's a strong chance that something like this will happen so that the Wii U version still has some hype going into it.
It would indeed be nice if he uploaded a pause shot of Bowser Jr., Shulk, Duck Hunt and Dark Pit standing side-by-side.
In the meantime, here's my stance:
It could be fake. Crazy people exist who'd go to such extremes.
But it could also be real. The workload involved here in insane. The quality is top-notch. The UI inconsistencies are easily explained. This all feels very much like cases in the past (Brawl, X/Y, etc) where the leak was real but people tried to find proof it wasn't, in large part because they didn't like what they were seeing (I.E. people hating ROB in Brawl, people hating Greninja's tongue-scarf in X/Y, etc).
I say, give it some serious consideration.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
If you can find it, that'd be huge.
I have absolutely no talent. I assure you.
Anyway,
I love how the bottom right is the 'clone corner'
Basically confirms this for me, because that is totally something sakurai would do.
I was going to introduce you guys to my new family, but this thread exploded.
Which are inconsistent?
This is what keeps me from believing it. If they were able to take this many pictures they probably would have been able to show in-match photographs.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I tried several and nothing matched. I think it's same guy who made good 3D models. I still want that render of DHD so BAD :lol
Beelzebufo
Banned
Is that one animated too?It's in the same position in the video...sitting still. Both seem to be stagnant photos.
But OK, fine. I compared the two selections for stages too and it's off there too.
Really similar, but slightly off.
Seriously though, I don't know what to think. I'd be fully on board if Lucas was on that roster, but without him... it's too painful to think clearly. Those are pretty good, consistent renders. The level selection matches up with what's been announced... but Lucas... my sweet Lucas ;_;
I'll gladly pay for him if he's a DLC character. Please, please be a DLC character ;_;
I'll gladly pay for him if he's a DLC character. Please, please be a DLC character ;_;
No need to apologise, if I didn't expect that kinda reaction I wouldn't have posted them. I just thought I'd save everyone the trouble of piecing together Duck Hunt dog renders.