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[Ryce]

I don't know why, but I'm genuinely frustrated that so many people are falling for this.

 

[Neiteio]

Is it just me or does Shulk look like he has Robin's exact same face in that pic?

Not really

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

If this is the final roster, my big problems with it are:
-Bowser Jr. in over K Rool or Ridley
-DK only having two reps
-Kid Icarus getting three reps while other, bigger series have two, even if one of them is a clone
-Lucas, Wolf, Ivysaur, and Snake being cut.
-Duck Hunt Dog being in
-Roy not returning despite being arguably just as easy to bring back as Dr. Mario

It still looks like there are spaces.

Plus this matches up with the text leak on Smashboards which also mentioned Dixie and Ridley.

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

Take a look at the Falco render.

 

[Kouichi]

All it takes to confirm this the next character reveal. When the model matches up 100%, we'll know it's real.

A new stage reveal for 3DS could also do it.

 

[Jawmuncher]

The last piece we needed.

 

[Kyzon]

Take a look at the Falco render.

Slightly different, buttttttttttt if you do the Falco Flash in a match and pause at the end, you get that pose and you can manipulate it as you see fit.

 

[Toxi]

Guys, the DLC is not part of the same leak.

I messed up, I apologize, but it wasn't the same poster. The one posting the leak was an Anon, the guy making the DLC statement had a username.

A trip isn't the same thing as a user name. You can change your trip whenever you want and it's generally encouraged to post without one.

 

[Hatchtag]

Take a look at the Falco render.

As with Wario, very similar pose, but the render's a bit different. Falco's collar shows in the Icon, while it's now shown in that picture. Also, the colors seem a bit different.

It still looks like there are spaces.

Plus this matches up with the text leak on Smashboards which also mentioned Dixie and Ridley.

That would save this leak for me, honestly. Combine this with the DLC thing and I'd be 100% fine with this leak.

 

[Cody_D165]

Take a look at the Falco render.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

 

[Neiteio]

That Falco shot proves nothing, since the roster screen shows his chest

I don't know why, but I'm genuinely frustrated that so many people are falling for this.

I wouldn't bet money on it being real, but I wouldn't bet money on it being fake, either

Until the renders are properly sourced, it seems plausible

 

[Juansho]

If this is the final roster, my big problems with it are:
-Bowser Jr. in over K Rool or Ridley
-DK only having two reps
-Kid Icarus getting three reps while other, bigger series have two, even if one of them is a clone
-Lucas, Wolf, Ivysaur, and Snake being cut.
-Duck Hunt Dog being in
-Roy not returning despite being arguably just as easy to bring back as Dr. Mario

Kid Icarus does not deserve more than 2 reps, hell, I didn't even want more Kid Icarus characters than Pit (although now, with the palutena inclusion, i'm kinda liking her), and FREAKING DONKEY KONG NEEDS FUCKIN' 3 CHARACTERS

 

[Growlie19]

I don't know what to think about the leak. On one hand, the roster lacks the Ice Climbers, Wolf, and Lucas, but then again, it gains Duck Hunt Dog, Shulk, and Bowser Jr.. The customization menu is spot on, but the stage select screen is too blurry to discern much. I'd need to see an in-battle picture to give my final answer on the matter. I'll put my allegiance on #TeamFake for now.

 

[SaikyoBro]

I don't know why, but I'm genuinely frustrated that so many people are falling for this.

It's not as bad as that stupid CSS leak from June at least.

 

[BassForever]

We need Wario's reveal STAT (or a newcomer reveal) as that would either shut this leak down completely or cause everyone to blow up

 

[Durden77]

Snake's realistic looking weapons and certain extreme looking elements like his grab. So basically, yeah.

Otherwise it's not like it was a huge departure from SSBM in terms of the way the cartoon violence was depicted. Certain content descriptors for the ESRB changed between SSBB and SSBM but the latter probably would've been labeled as E10+ had the rating existed. Snake is the biggest departure between the two at that point.

But this is all just conjecture on my part. I don't think this thing is real in any way and maybe they've reconciled something about Snake so that he's still in Smash 4 without bumping up the rating in the event he ever did. I don't actually have any insight on how Smash got rated.


Also... what blood on master hand? All I remember are the holes from being a ripped glove.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRl-3tPFXw8&t=0m45s

Always looked like blood to me. Definitely has a red tint. I still doubt it was Snake that got the game bumped up to T. I don't see a few explosive weapons doing that. It was a combination of things in the game as a whole.

 

[Neiteio]

Guys, this leak is so obviously fake. How would they even make an Amiibo of Duck Hunt? It's obviously fake because of that alone.

Same way Pit's Amiibo floats in the air

 

[batfax]

So, if Dr. Mario is in...

A surprise POTD reveal? Or in a newcomer video?

Fixing up Duck Hunt Dog after he laughed at someone he shouldn't have.

 

[backlot]

This looks pretty legit. Duck Hunt and Ness look pretty good.

 

[Kyzon]

I like how Dark pit is just Pit facing the opposite direction, but with minor changes like moving the wings.

 

[Ryce]

As with Wario, very similar pose, but the render's a bit different. Falco's collar shows in the Icon, while it's now shown in that picture. Also, the colors seem a bit different.

I'm not saying that's the source of the Falco render, but stuff like that could be Photoshopped in literally minutes. The incredibly low resolution and off-screen nature of this leak helps hide a lot of the technical flaws, too.

 

[Beelzebufo]

I don't know why, but I'm genuinely frustrated that so many people are falling for this.

You've been wrong before Ryce, no need to get upset. It could certainly be real.

 

[MiguelMexMIstery]

-Kid Icarus getting three reps while other, bigger series have two, even if one of them is a clone
-Roy not returning despite being arguably just as easy to bring back as Dr. Mario

So you think Kid Icarus doesn't deserve three reps while you want FE to have five?

 

[SaikyoBro]

My friend just pointed out something else.

Compare:
http://i.gyazo.com/0023c8269109b326c8f8f03dc314f343.png
http://i2.wp.com/shoryuken.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ssb4-leak-2.png

The series icon are behind Sheik and Pikachu's heads in the real screenshot, but not behind these characters in the leak.

The REALLY weird thing is that this part of the leak still has the icons... super weird inconsistencies, dude.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

Confirm Ness tonight sakurai. Save us.

 

[InvincibleAgent]

That Falco shot proves nothing, since the roster screen shows his chest

It's very easy to paste one head on another chest. The face is identical.

 

[BassForever]

Shulk just looks really off, I dunno it looks unfinished

 

[Berordn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRl-3tPFXw8&t=0m45s

Always looked like blood to me. Definitely has a red tint. I still doubt it was Snake that got the game bumped up to T. I don't see a few explosive weapons doing that. It was a combination of things in the game as a whole.

If it was a combination of things in the game I'm going to have to put my foot down that Snake was a major part of it, if only because I literally cannot think of anything else.

But I didn't even remember Master Hand so please destroy my very faulty reasoning.

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

My friend just pointed out something else.

Compare:
http://i.gyazo.com/0023c8269109b326c8f8f03dc314f343.png
http://i2.wp.com/shoryuken.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ssb4-leak-2.png

The series icon are behind Sheik and Pikachu's heads in the real screenshot, but not behind these characters in the leak.

The REALLY weird thing is that this part of the leak still has the icons... super weird inconsistencies, dude.

I think the pic with the Duck Hunt Dog is not from the character select screen, but from a post-character select screen, maybe the stage select or a loading screen.

 

[Neiteio]

I'm not saying that's the source of the Falco render, but stuff like that could be Photoshopped in literally minutes. The incredibly low resolution and off-screen nature of this leak helps hide a lot of the technical flaws, too.

It could be real, is my take on it. Those renders are incredibly good. They have the same sensibility to them as all of the real renders, something no fakes have been able to accomplish so far. And here we have multiple such renders. I say it's worth acknowledging the possibility it may be real. No one should take a hard stance either way, IMO. And like I said, the nice part is it won't be long before we know.

 

[Finale Fireworker]

My friend just pointed out something else.

Compare:
http://i.gyazo.com/0023c8269109b326c8f8f03dc314f343.png
http://i2.wp.com/shoryuken.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ssb4-leak-2.png

The series icon are behind Sheik and Pikachu's heads in the real screenshot, but not behind these characters in the leak.

The REALLY weird thing is that this part of the leak still has the icons... super weird inconsistencies, dude.

The latter screenshot from the leak that still has the icons is for CP fighters. In the leak, human fighters have their icons moved to the top banner.

 

[Hatchtag]

So you think Kid Icarus doesn't deserve three reps while you want FE to have five?

I love Uprising and think it deserves three reps. But I don't think Starfox and DK having two and Earthbound having one while KI has three seems right at all. And I do think FE deserves five reps, especially since two of them are clones.

 

[Legendarylemur]

Which are inconsistent?

The red finger being fatter in the leak than the e3 build, red reticle being slightly out of shape. It's a bit too accurate to scale to be fake imo

 

[SaikyoBro]

I think the pic with the Duck Hunt Dog is not from the character select screen, but from a post-character select screen, maybe the stage select or a loading screen.

I would say that's grasping but the fact that the background seems to be different tells me you're probably right.

I'm not saying this is real, but... man, I don't know.

 

[MaverickHunterAsh]

Take a look at the Falco render.

Face is the same. Could have pasted that face on a different angle of the body.

Eh... those renders aren't at all similar enough for this to be conclusive proof for me.

I don't know why, but I'm genuinely frustrated that so many people are falling for this.

Why? We have absolutely zero hard evidence of it being either fake or real.

 

[Neiteio]

Whatever this ends up being, this is the BEST part of the hype cycle

The hype is BACK

 

[L Thammy]

My friend mentioned the other day that he wants Hyrule Warriors' Ganondorf to replace classic Ganondorf. He's afraid that "Sakurai won't have enough time to add him", which is, uh. But I thought it was interesting to hear.

Side note, does anyone else thing that the stages in the Wii U version are much more plain than the 3DS version?

 

[VandalD]

My friend just pointed out something else.

The character windows on the bottom screen are taller while not on the character select screen. It lines up with Treehouse videos.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

Yep, this is definately based off the Smashboard leak...mentioned IC, Lucas, Wolf, and Snake being cut, Duck Hunt Dog, Bowser Jr. (let's see the Koopaling alts), Dr. Mario and Dark Pit.

Ridley, Chorus Men, Mewtwo, and Dixie were mentioned in a seperate post that appeared on /v/ around the same time, which also mentioned Jr. and DHD. So...unknown if those are true.

If we have two legit sources, perhaps the first took these pictures which is why Ridley and the other three are absent.

 

[Mr. Smiley]

I like how Dark pit is just Pit facing the opposite direction, but with minor changes like moving the wings.

It's like some meta-commentary from the faker.

 

[Galang]

I gotta say that's a pretty good fake (if it is) as the models look nice. I'm glad its likely not real as it still gives Lucas a chance

 

[Kyzon]

Ohhhhhh, hello Falco render.

 

[Hatchtag]

Whatever this ends up being, this is the BEST part of the hype cycle

The hype is BACK

Hype cycle:
-Leak happens
-People get hyped
-Leak gets proved real
-Hype dies down
-Leak then gets proved fake
-Hype goes through the roof
Rinse and repeat.

 

[OricWindstar]

Whatever this ends up being, this is the BEST part of the hype cycle

The hype is BACK

I agree! The month leading up to launch is an exciting time.

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

Whatever this ends up being, this is the BEST part of the hype cycle

The hype is BACK

And that's really all that matters.

 

[Jaeger]

Fakest leak of all time.

 

[Kouichi]

Ohhhhhh, hello Falco render.

That's still completely different.

 

[Spinosaurus]

Why? We have absolutely zero hard evidence of it being either fake or real.

What about the fact that ESRB doesn't really play the games?

 

[Caladrius]

Whatever this ends up being, this is the BEST part of the hype cycle

The hype is BACK

Indeed. It brings the right kind of spark into the Smash Fandom.

Pity this phase is so short lived.

 

[kirby_fox]

Is that one animated too?

Glows in the video, but when stage is selected doesn't do anything.

Dissecting it a bit further shows that the color simply goes from dark to light and back fairly quickly.