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NPD Sales Results for August 2014 [Up4: PS4 #1, XB1 last week sales 2x last Jul week]
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RespectThySole
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This is such an asinine comparison. You are perfectly entitled to your own opinion, but don't base it off this. There are better arguments for the PS4 "winning" November than that.
Refer to this post:
You're not seriously comparing Titanfall to Halo, are you? It wouldn't even be close to a fair comparison, even if we were talking about Gears of War. I'm not saying that a remake collection like Halo MCC will necessarily push them ahead in November NPDs, but comparing a brand with the strength of Halo to a new ip that didn't set the world on fire in terms of user reviews or even critic's reviews is hilarious. Also, you do realize that CoD bundle seems to be selling VERY well and the White XB1 bundle releases on Oct. 28th.
I'm not saying the COD bundle won't sell some systems, but it's $500. We've been through the whole price thing already.
People have been looking forward to "interesting" NPD numbers for 10 months. In reality it's been fairly uninteresting.
I thought Nintendo counts bundled software in their numbers. Didn't they do that with the Wii and Wii Sports and NES and SMB?
RespectThySole
Member
I'm not looking to get back into this discussion at this point man. Refer to my post history if you want more info on why the price tag won't be as limiting as some would think. Also, CoD is not the only thing that will sell systems there are many other factors in play(that I've detailed earlier in case you are new to the thread). It's not the sheer dominance of the CoD bundle, it's the combination of everything.
Paracelsus
Member
Numbers have been delayed to 2015.
Early 2015 may be even more boring considering Sony have a few PS4 games for early 2015 and Microsoft has none at the moment.
MrCookiepants
Member
This year's CoD is doing abysmally in preorders. I wouldn't count on that to turn the tides.
Brad Grenz
Member
At this point the most interesting thing about NPD each month is the fever dream posts that show up every round to forecast why it will be interesting next time.
RespectThySole
Member
What a generalization that is. I personally never thought it would be interesting perhaps other than the Titanfall month and I still thought that was iffy.
I think many were misguided in the assessment that every month will be interesting. The truth is the PS4 is a more powerful console than the XB1 and so far nearly every notable game on current gen has been multiplatform. Those games can be played in a "superior" fashion on PS4 usually. Why would the XB1 magically outsell the PS4 when there hasn't been a game in months on it that hasn't played better on the more popular system?
November easily has the most reason/factors since the console has been out. I haven't made my decision on what will occur in that month, but comparing it to any other month is silly.
But hey I'm sure you'll come up with a witty response about how this is just another thing on the checklist, right?
November is definitely Microsoft's best chance for the year. I think it's interesting that Microsoft's bundle strategies are all pretty much public whereas we still have no real idea what Sony will be doing if they will even be doing a bundle. Maybe the Destiny bundle will carry them all the way through the holidays, but it certainly makes sense to do one or two more bundles. The standard Black Friday bundle and whatever holiday bundle they come up with.
You can definitely expect GTAV and Far Cry bundles, along with LBP3 and Driveclub.
Deputy Moonman
Member
Oh man "superior" fashion? I gotta get in on that. Difference has got to be amazing I'm sure.
EL OH EL
Wouldn't say abysmal, I mean compared to previous cods then yeah but it'll still be the best selling game of 2014 even if it is the worst selling COD in years.
After Ghosts I expect alot of people to be holding off pre ordering AW and just buying it once reviews & they hear other peoples thoughts on it.
KillerMan91
Member
So it seems it was pretty standard month. Next month is when the fun begins.
If GTA V is out this year, they'll bundle it, yeah. I don't really see Far Cry as being bundle worthy. I still think we'll see an Infamous Second Son + 1 other game bundle though. Sony aren't going to bundle 2 new first party games (they'd rather just let Driveclub fail at retail I bet). LBP3 is definitely something they might want to bundle for the kids though.
RespectThySole
Member
Listen, man. I'm not saying that there is a massive difference in the multiplats. I don't even care about the hardware difference personally and if I did I wouldn't of bought the XB1 first. I'm just stating what the general perception many have between the two are. I currently only own an XB1 out of the two so I'm not sure why you would think I'd be doing anything more than that. I will eventually own a PS4 though due to the exclusive JRPGs/TLOU2.
There are gonna be DC bundles out I thought that was already announced? Yup GTAV is a safe bet, if it comes out.
I would imagine FC4 will be a bundled game similarly like Xbone might have AC:Unity.
As for the BF bundles I could see a Infamous and Last of Us Bundle for the kill.
Facism
Member
Calm it down mate, don't make it personal.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I don't think Namco is losing faith in the West. This was a sequel to a mainline title released at a time where the PS3 is declining severely. Europe is also has a sizeable audience for Tales as well.
Zestiria is probably going to come fall 2015, PS4 has to be there if Namco does not want to be disappointed.
Damn thats a drop. I recall when some posters were saying the WiiU was turning around, that it could outsell XB1 consistently and now its back to 60k.
Based on up-to-date NPD datas.
Overall software sales LTD up to August = hardware sales x tie ratios
[PS4] 11,376,000
[XB1] 10,359,256
[WIU] 9,140,050
Software sales LTD outside of top 10 up to August = overall sales LTD - top 10 SW LTD
[PS4] 3,924,000
[XB1] 3,152,256
[WIU] 4,514,050
Overall software sales LTD up to August = hardware sales x tie ratios
[PS4] 11,376,000
[XB1] 10,359,256
[WIU] 9,140,050
Software sales LTD outside of top 10 up to August = overall sales LTD - top 10 SW LTD
[PS4] 3,924,000
[XB1] 3,152,256
[WIU] 4,514,050
RespectThySole
Member
I don't think FC4 is as noteworthy as many would think. In nearly every retailer chart I've seen the XB1 version is behind Sunset Overdrive. Also, Sunset is exclusive, while FC4 is multiplat, so obviously one has a bigger purchase incentive than the other.
It's also probably true that there would be an AC Unity bundle to counter this just as you suggest, which is a far bigger brand.
This was just a comparison between the Sunset/White XB1 bundle and potential AC Unity bundle vs a potential FC4 bundle so it obviously leaves out many factors.
I do agree that Black Friday bundles will be very interesting though in terms of what is packaged for both sides.
SwiftDeath
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Mpl no summaries
Manmademan
Member
Those posters are insane.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
157k for TLoU:R. Isn't that better then the second month of its PS3 brethern? I think it did 140k in july 2013.
The perfect Dark
Banned
The WiiU will outsell the XB1 consistently outside of US
Nah Zesteria will come out before fall in the West. I don't think there will be PS4 version just yet so yes it's going to sell around Xilllia 2.
Oo.
Manmademan
Member
Crazy talk. You expect the WiiU to outsell the XB1 in EU and UK with what games, exactly?
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Made up by digital surely.
shinra-bansho
Member
I don't really know why console gaming couldn't be considered a niche segment with customers willing to pay more than certain other segments for both hardware and software. Consumers in the console market are paying considerably more than free for their hardware and considerably more than free for their software, and those are the price points available to the wider gaming market that's attracted a swathe of consumers. I don't really know why because PC gamers can be considered a distinct segment are willing to pay more, at least for hardware, that means that console gaming can't be considered as such.
Also, I wasn't aware that the focus generic requires an unexploited niche, as opposed to there simply being a distinct market segment to serve??
I'd say Sony's PS4 resembles something of a well implemented focus strategy towards the "core gamer" segment. And many of the large publishers have been operating as such as well, with their wares, for the most part.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
XB1 US : 160k
WiiU US + JP : 110k
You saying the WiiU outsold the XB1 in EU by 50k. I doubt WiiU is even beating XB1 is EU.
RespectThySole
Member
Did someone really post that nonsense about Wii U consistently outselling XB1 in NA? I can't fathom how anyone would come to such a conclusion. What a weird thing to say.
Also, it will obviously not happen. The brand strength of Xbox in NA is much stronger than many think. The 360 massively outsold the PS3 in NA. Most of the PS3 user base is in Europe. The majority of that 360 user base is still up for grabs and I doubt many of them are going to buy a Wii U first especially with that console's current trajectory. They will most likely be choosing between the XB1/PS4.
The fact that the PS4 hasn't massively outsold the XB1 even with all the negative press/fiascos/weaker hardware in comparison to the PS4 shows just how strong it is in NA. Microsoft should learn from this gen's mistakes on what not to do so that they don't put themselves at an early deficit next time.
The Wii U will not even outsell the Xbox One in Europe in terms of lifetime sales and yes you can quote me on that.
Also, it will obviously not happen. The brand strength of Xbox in NA is much stronger than many think. The 360 massively outsold the PS3 in NA. Most of the PS3 user base is in Europe. The majority of that 360 user base is still up for grabs and I doubt many of them are going to buy a Wii U first especially with that console's current trajectory. They will most likely be choosing between the XB1/PS4.
The fact that the PS4 hasn't massively outsold the XB1 even with all the negative press/fiascos/weaker hardware in comparison to the PS4 shows just how strong it is in NA. Microsoft should learn from this gen's mistakes on what not to do so that they don't put themselves at an early deficit next time.
The Wii U will not even outsell the Xbox One in Europe in terms of lifetime sales and yes you can quote me on that.
do you have anything to back up this bold and, dare i say, borderline insane claim?
Don't forget that this August we had fewer games, especially for nextgen who are driving force of game sales now.
Last year there were Pikmin 3, Tales of Xillia, Disney Infinity, Saints Row IV, Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist, Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn, Lost Planet 3...
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
How bad must Xbone sales be for MS to start trying to use shipped figures to come up with PR statements.
Edit: Iam so wrong.
Some if those % are surely digital sales.
Don't think all of the 20% but a good chunk.
LiquidSolid
Member
And here I thought the average Joe doesn't care about the "slight performance difference" in multiplatform games. That's a bit of a turn around in only four days, I guess Madden's sales had something to do with that?
Couldt it be typo? is = in?
Same as me that I somehow remembered Wiiu selling beastmode ~40k per week in JP (these 2 threads NPD & MC Iam weekly following).
I don't think Halo is a big deal. These are old Halo titles being released on the system where Halo fans will naturally congregate. It's the best form of fan service, but the Halo enthusiast this appeals to is likely to have already purchased the box. There's little generational crossover of PlayStation fans to Xbox this time around so it isn't exactly able to target a massive new audience the way TLoU:R did or a theoretical Uncharted collection might. This is a great game for the core Xbox fan but I am not convinced it will light anything on fire.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Don't underestimate digital. It may even exceed that 20% deficit.
Anyway we all should know digital sales revenue is growing massively each year and retail has been declining, with that decline accelerating this year and next.
XB1 is surely doing better than Wii U in Uk, but it's also true that Xbox One is doing AWFUL outside of UK, even more than Wii U. However, it has to be seen wheter, currently, Xbox One UK sales over Wii U are enough to overbalance Wii U sales over Xbox One outside of UK.
PotionBleue
Member
Lmfao, where does this come from?
RespectThySole
Member
Everyone obviously does not care about it because if they did there would be a far greater disparity than the current one.
However, it can't be denied that there are some that DO and it does affect sales to a certain extent. Quit grasping at straws here, we've already discussed this and you're adding nothing to the discussion.