Something's wrong with the Walmart chart, Star Wars bundle way ahead of the 299$ Uncharted bundle.
Also Xbox 360 as the second best selling item?
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November 2015 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes December 8th
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Something's wrong with the Walmart chart, Star Wars bundle way ahead of the 299$ Uncharted bundle.
Also Xbox 360 as the second best selling item?
cartoon_soldier
Member
Actually, Xbox 360 is the best selling item.
The first item is a sponsored listing.
Keep in mind, this is ordering the list of items for a search by best selling. Different than Amazon.
According to Walmart:
1. Xbox 360
2. Xbox One Value Bundle
3. PS4 SW Bundle
4. Wii U
5. Xbox One SW Bundle
6. Xbox One GoW Bundle
7. Nintendo 3DS
8. Nintendo 2DS Blue
9. Nintendo 2DS Red
10. Nintendo 2DS Green
You can see that both XB1 and PS4 SW bundle is higher than the other bundles.
Best Buy Order:
1. Amazon Fire TV
2. MS XB1 Controller
3. PS4 UC Bundle
4. Sony DS4
5. NFL16 PS4
6. FIFA16 PS4
7. Until Dawn PS4
8. NFL16 XB1
9. NBA 2k16 XB1
10. XB1 GoW Bundle
cartoon_soldier
Member
Why is it surprising?
The thing costs 130$. Works out to be a great Christmas gift. I mean 2DS is no, 8-10 too.
Tivor Tontomo
Member
I don't see why that is surprising honestly. It's cheap,. ti dominated last year, now those games plus recent ones are cheaper, it comes with games, it probably got some special deals earlier as well during BF weekend.
Not sure where you see Kinect at?
True, have we gotten any statements about sales from Walmart yet instore?
Welfare
Member
One 360 bundle for $130 sold more than the other consoles on an online store. Why would you question if the order is proper or not?
That chart is always wonky. Just yesterday it had the NDC bundle as best selling and the Halo elite bundle with head set at number 2. In no universe is that halo bundle outselling the gears bundle.
cartoon_soldier
Member
The chart is then being updated at some interval and is not a MTD chart (like Amazon has).
Birgitte2004
Member
70% is way too low. I'd think more like 85-90%. PS4 alone, with Europe being Tomb Raider land, would probably reach 65%. Add PC on top of that?
There is stuff labeled as best selling but behind stuff not labeled at all. You have the sponsored xb1 at top place making it impossible to know it's real position. Everything in this list comes out weird to me.
Also, is that an hourly? Daily? Weekly? Monthly? Or maybe last 15mn? I don't know..
NDP_Mulcair
Banned
The online storefront walmart.com comprises approximately 0.75% of the total NPD dataset, and online storefronts such as walmart.com often have nuances that don't get properly conveyed in the broader physical retail landscape.
Tivor Tontomo
Member
I have no idea what you are doing, ignored the sponsored thing at the top and it's in numerical order. It's severely simple.
You have a 360 which is dirt cheap with tons of games, that got releases this year bt, and also games that are very cheap. Also likely had some sale the last 3 days. I mean Walmart is pretty strong for the 360, the 360 did very well last year with AW selling more on it than anywhere else, and while I expect a drop in sales this year, I'm pretty sure It will still sell well at it's cheap price just like last year.
Ok. I'm on mobile and items doesn't show up in the same order than the list detailed a few posts above. That would explain the weirdness.
slavesnyder
Member
Finally we have a new sales indicator!
walmart.com
Yeah!
walmart.com
Yeah!
X360 won !!!
slavesnyder
Member
cartoon_soldier
Member
How much is Amazon online?
This would be gold information.
Birgitte2004
Member
I don't think this is a 1-X style sort. Tweaking the filtering options makes the order change, outside of advertised items, which stay in a fairly constant order.
Basically useless as a sales indicator, even at Walmart I'd say.
Welfare
Member
Isn't Amazon just online? I think it was said that it's around 5-6% of the total market.
cartoon_soldier
Member
They did just open up a retail store. Though I think it's books only.
5-6%? Still would prefer a confirmation from NPD overlords.
Chocolate & Vanilla
Fuck Strawberry
What's the timeframe for the Walmart list? Daily, weekly, monthly? If it's weekly/monthly is it fixed dates or rolling? Mobile doesn't show any of that info.
Plague Doctor
Member
Meanwhile in the 8th generation of Middle Earth on Mt. Amazon, an old ruler awakens...
cartoon_soldier
Member
Just to let people know Too Human is the 2nd worst selling thing on Gamestop online. The worst selling thing is Digital GI subscription.
I don't know someone may find that useful.
I don't know someone may find that useful.
CosmicQueso
Member
Amazon is more like 6-8% now.
NDP_Mulcair
Banned
Amazon has been growing in popularity and commanding a greater percentage of NPD marketshare over time.
5-6% was accurate back when the PS4 / Xbox One released, and I agree that 6-8% is more appropriate for its current position in late 2015.
In the beginning of the 7th generation Amazon barely registered in the overall retailer list, so it has definitely come a long way the past few years.
Darth Smurf X
Member
Sorry, gang. I hate to burst everyone's bubbles here, but I went to my local Best Buy on Saturday and there were HUGE stacks of both PS4s and XBOs at the front near the cash registers.
Looks like this gen is a bust. Time to pack it in. Nothing to see here. See you next gen.
Looks like this gen is a bust. Time to pack it in. Nothing to see here. See you next gen.
CosmicQueso
Member
As if there will be a next gen. We don't need gens when we have Live MAUs.
Welfare
Member
NDP_Mulcair
Banned
Historically, I know that Costco has been one of the retailers which has explicitly refused cooperation with The NPD Group.
Within the past five years, the NPD Group has made strides to reach out to stubborn retailers (like Wal-Mart) and sign point-of-sale sharing agreements.
I don't know off the top of my head if Costco is now a part of their retailer network as of late 2015. I'll have to find out.
But I doubt that Costco's video game business materially reflects a significant percentage of the overall marketshare, and if The NPD Group doesn't directly track Costco, then they will estimate using algorithms.
slavesnyder
Member
3rdamention
Member
Holy cow. The Uncharted Bundle is now the #1 seller for the month of November! Just wow. Amazon must have sold an absolute ton of those bundles for it to be the #1 best seller for the month, even above PSN/Xbox Live Cards and some of the games that were on sale! I mean, it is ahead of Fallout and Call of Duty, which I would have never ever guessed! And it is still #1 in the hourly best sellers as well. It doesn't seem to want to go anywhere at that $299 price!
Hockeymac18
Member
Selling ridiculous amounts, the PS4 is.
XB1 GoW bundle has moved into the yearly charts, too (72).
DriftingSpirit
Member
Goodness gracious.
Giriath_89
Member
Yeah the UCC bundle must have sold like crazy on Amazon.
I'm happy to see Bloodborne is now #22 on the yearly chart. #7 in software only.
I'm happy to see Bloodborne is now #22 on the yearly chart. #7 in software only.
It's amazing what one day or weekend for that matter can do.
Darth Smurf X
Member
Does Sony ever release these numbers though? Like how can we compare MAUs if one company refuses to participate? I hate when companies don't provide the numbers we are demanding so we can further our own agendas.
Chobel
Member
From Infoscout http://blog.infoscout.co/games-trump-console-sales-this-black-friday/
I guess XBO won Black Friday.
I guess XBO won Black Friday.
slavesnyder
Member
Sony is ashamed, sticking to old, useless metrics.
CosmicQueso
Member
Everything is digital substitution of MAUs.
Cornbread78
Member
Don't forget about those Star Wars Disney Infinity bundles. They launched the week before Black Friday. Gone, gone, gone, they flew, were they a WM exclusive? I don't see them on the Amazon chart.
Honestly though, that was an equalizer in our store in compareison to the extra stock we received of XB1 bundles sold during BF. Then you add in the Battlefront bundles in comparison to the FO4 bundles, and there is a clear winner...
Honestly though, that was an equalizer in our store in compareison to the extra stock we received of XB1 bundles sold during BF. Then you add in the Battlefront bundles in comparison to the FO4 bundles, and there is a clear winner...
Darth Smurf X
Member
Still not definitive though. Since the #2 and #3 bundles could be Nathan Drake and Battlefront and add up to more than GoW.
Black Friday is no longer ia single day now.
Cornbread78
Member
exactly...
My personal prediction :
November PS4 > XB1
Just BF , XB1 slightly better than PS4