I wouldn't say it's "bad". But yeah it doesn't hold a candle to the others.
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NES/Famicom Appreciation Thread
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IrishNinja
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haha, they really didn't - HG101 has some excellent pages for more of that
tornjaw
Member
Omg, people just didn't give a damn back then
I just recently picked this up, complete in box, the other day. I already had it as a loose cart but for the asking price it was just too good to pass up.
I owned it as a kid but it was way too difficult for me at the time.
RoryDropkick
Member
One step closer to having all 6 Rockman games. Rockman 6 is on the way and should be here by Monday or Tuesday hopefully.
elmalloc
Member
Can you beat them all no-death is the question!
Don't make me attempt to dude.XD
sixteen-bit
Member
nice RGB
RoryDropkick
Member
A Black Falcon
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What's good about the US box? It's got nothing to do with the game, it removes the protagonist from the cover in an effort to not admit that you play as a girl (also see Faria for another NES example of this), the art is a ripoff of a movie poster, the bottom half of the cover is just a solid color...
clem84
Gold Member
I scour the grounds for those mini bosses. I have also found new weapons and weapon upgrades in seemingly random item boxes (plus in the shops). Exploration is important and you will miss a lot if you run straight for the next corridor.
I had to look up how to access corridor 4... that was obtuse. But overall I'm enjoying this one a lot. As a huge Zanac fan I'm loving the aesthetics and sound effects.
I had to look up how to access corridor 4... that was obtuse. But overall I'm enjoying this one a lot. As a huge Zanac fan I'm loving the aesthetics and sound effects.
Finished TGL last night, I'll spoiler tag my thoughts just in case:
If I ever sit down and play through a dedicated Compile shooter (I could never get into the early sections of the ones I've tried), I figure I'll like it more than this. At least I dug some of the aesthetics here.
I honestly wasn't too thrilled with it. Like a lot of genre-hybrid games you see on the Famicom, the individual parts are kind of weak, and in this case they don't really combine in a way that makes everything more engaging.
The top-down parts are pretty repetitive in spite of the fairly basic world layout, and the whole shoot-where-you're-walking thing is unfortunate (Blaster Master handles this way better). The scrolling segments are definitely the more enjoyable of the two. They have neat enemy designs and all the weapons you've collected on-foot suddenly become useful beyond those goober fenced-in boss fights.
As the game progresses, though, the action goes from simple to total mush in both halves. You get all these defensive upgrades and the game floods with enemies to compensate. Survival becomes a matter of mashing out a given weapon and collecting the ever-spawning health pickups every once in a while to make sure you don't die, with very little dodging or precise aiming to going on. It's pretty nonsense.
The top-down parts are pretty repetitive in spite of the fairly basic world layout, and the whole shoot-where-you're-walking thing is unfortunate (Blaster Master handles this way better). The scrolling segments are definitely the more enjoyable of the two. They have neat enemy designs and all the weapons you've collected on-foot suddenly become useful beyond those goober fenced-in boss fights.
As the game progresses, though, the action goes from simple to total mush in both halves. You get all these defensive upgrades and the game floods with enemies to compensate. Survival becomes a matter of mashing out a given weapon and collecting the ever-spawning health pickups every once in a while to make sure you don't die, with very little dodging or precise aiming to going on. It's pretty nonsense.
If I ever sit down and play through a dedicated Compile shooter (I could never get into the early sections of the ones I've tried), I figure I'll like it more than this. At least I dug some of the aesthetics here.
D.Lo
Member
I think it's just not 'bad' in the USA Mega Man 1/2 sense. Like at least it's not offensively terrible art drawn by a child.
RadarScope1
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I want to get in one final word about Shatterhand: if you don't have it, get it now. The game is a total gem and at about $40 it is, in my opinion, very ripe for shooting up in price and staying pretty high. We've seen Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu go from about $30 to about $70 (was much higher) and now Sky Kid more than double thanks to YouTubers. Sky Kid is already showing itself to be a blip but I have to think there's no real reason why Shatterhand can't be on the same level as Metal Storm or Bucky O'Hare, for example. It's a legit great game and a spike could happen any time.
Shadow Hog
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Alright, alright, I spent my Amazon GC on Shatterhand already, I get it
(Was gonna do it anyway, so)
(Was gonna do it anyway, so)
I can't believe anyone in this thread would be sleeping on Shatterhand at this point, right? It's a must-own late-release title that is, as RadarScope1 mentioned, one popular Youtuber video away from blowing up and never coming back down. I mean hell, I should probably pick up a second copy at this point just in case.
sixteen-bit
Member
Speaking of later Natsume releases, why does Shadow of the Ninja go for more than Shatterhand?
Probably it's slightly better well-known and it has "ninja" in the title. I personally like it quite a bit less than Shatterhand.
I finally bit the bullet and bought a copy about an hour and a half ago. I've only played a friend's copy in the past and wasn't super impressed, but it's another game that's primed for a Youtube-induced jump in price so I figured fuck it, just get it now and avoid the sadness in the future.
RadarScope1
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Yep, I recently bought Shadow of the Ninja as well. Power Blade is next on that list. I'm leaning toward snagging Gargoyle's Quest 2 next, though. It's getting up there but I think it's on a continued steady march upward...
I bought the Famicom cart and didn't know it had so much text. Serves me right for not doing research.
thechristoph
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I think the issue ended up being that the new 72 pin connector is so tight, that it was bending something out of alignment when the cart is pressed down.
I don't even need to press the cart down. I leave it up and the issue is no longer an issue. Huzzah!
All those games are just waiting for a James and Mike Monday, and they will explode in price. All quality games that was a bit too late to be noticed back in the day, and is thus less featured on "best of lists" and such. Fortunately, I got all of them a few years ago.
Did you take off the black thing the cart slides into and put it on again? It has a little tip underneath that should go under the motherboard, but its very easy to not notice, and thus giving the whole thing a slight upwards bulge which will affect the alignment when the cart is pressed down. Anyways, happy that you found a solution
RadarScope1
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Speaking of connectors, I have had an after market one in my NES ever since I bought it in 1998. I bought a refurbished OEM connector recently, though, because I am sick of the death grip and am worried it's going to wear on the cart pins now that I am playing NES games more than at any time in the last decade.
The only thing stopping me is the fact that my NES is so rock solid. I clean the carts well and they boot flawlessly every time. I'm a ltitle hesitant to mess with a good thing but a well maintained OEM connector is probably best, isn't it? Would anyone advise me NOT to switch them out?
I should also add that I'll be diabling the 10NES chip while I'm in there so that should make it even more functional (though like I said I rarely if ever see the a blinking screen at boot up).
The only thing stopping me is the fact that my NES is so rock solid. I clean the carts well and they boot flawlessly every time. I'm a ltitle hesitant to mess with a good thing but a well maintained OEM connector is probably best, isn't it? Would anyone advise me NOT to switch them out?
I should also add that I'll be diabling the 10NES chip while I'm in there so that should make it even more functional (though like I said I rarely if ever see the a blinking screen at boot up).
thechristoph
Sir!
Did you take off the black thing the cart slides into and put it on again? It has a little tip underneath that should go under the motherboard, but its very easy to not notice, and thus giving the whole thing a slight upwards bulge which will affect the alignment when the cart is pressed down. Anyways, happy that you found a solution
No, I did not look at that. I will check it out! Thanks!
Triple Dash
Neo Member
$202 sounds a bit much, but I'm really tempted. Secretly I've wanted to see people port GBC games like Pokemon & Mega Man Xtreme to the NES just to see what would happen.
My only question is if you can catch all 151 in this ROM hack/port.
EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPd6RLs1_zs
Seems to be a physical version of this. Music sounds kind of weird, but still seems awesome overall. Not sure 159 Pokemon, seems kind of random.
RadarScope1
Member
Played some more of Goonies for Famicom tonight. That is quite a nice little title, when you consider the release date and some of the advancements it was building on at the time. I'm getting a feel for it. Would like to be able to beat it.
Ooh, Guardian Legend! Maybe I can finally beat the second shmup stage this time
Anyways, played some Famicom games this past weekend at my friend's:
Ninja-kun - I know this was a pretty popular series back in the day but this game is absolute garbage. Weird jumping controls (you can only jump forwards or backwards, if you press the jump button while standing still, you'll drop down the ledge you're standing on). Slow as balls gameplay, too.
Cosmic Epsilon - Game name makes me think of a quality progressive house producer. It's a Space Harrier clone that's much smoother than most other Space Harrier clones (and the SMS port of the actual Space Harrier!). Decent music, too.
Pizza Pop - An NES sidescroller by Jaleco that reminds me somewhat of Rockin' Kats or Panic Restaurant. You play a pizza delivery boy as you try to deliver to your customers in a lighthearted urban setting. Decent game if you're into cartoony platformers.
Anyways, played some Famicom games this past weekend at my friend's:
Ninja-kun - I know this was a pretty popular series back in the day but this game is absolute garbage. Weird jumping controls (you can only jump forwards or backwards, if you press the jump button while standing still, you'll drop down the ledge you're standing on). Slow as balls gameplay, too.
Cosmic Epsilon - Game name makes me think of a quality progressive house producer. It's a Space Harrier clone that's much smoother than most other Space Harrier clones (and the SMS port of the actual Space Harrier!). Decent music, too.
Pizza Pop - An NES sidescroller by Jaleco that reminds me somewhat of Rockin' Kats or Panic Restaurant. You play a pizza delivery boy as you try to deliver to your customers in a lighthearted urban setting. Decent game if you're into cartoony platformers.
I'll make my nomination: Street Fighter 2010: The Final Fight
2010 is a sidescrolling action game released by Capcom. In all honesty, I have never played this game and I always meant to, so this would give me a good excuse, plus it's hella cheap. I hear it has great music. It also has a weird history according to the Wiki:
Anyway, let's get four more nominations.
2010 is a sidescrolling action game released by Capcom. In all honesty, I have never played this game and I always meant to, so this would give me a good excuse, plus it's hella cheap. I hear it has great music. It also has a weird history according to the Wiki:
Anyway, let's get four more nominations.
RoryDropkick
Member
I nominate Burai Fighter.
RadarScope1
Member
Don't think I've ever submitted a nomination before, so I'll toss out Wrecking Crew to get an arcade-style game on the list. And it's a black box game.
This is a great pick, some stunning visuals and decent gameplay... not a lot of people talk about it. I'm gonna have to give another +1 to Wrecking Crew though, since I love that game so much.
The cheapest copy available on eBay is $27.50. Then the next cheapest is $40 and it only goes up from there, plus, there aren't that many available in general. I would unfortunately say this violates the $30 limit we set and I don't think we can include this as a nomination.
RadarScope1
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Also, I'm allergic to isometric games. They give me a rash.
Shadow Hog
Member
So you're proposing Battletoads, then
RoryDropkick
Member
I had considered that since I own it, or Zen:Intergalactic Ninja, but both are creeping up in price I believe :/
God please no. My prediction for that if it were to happen:
NES/Famicom Appreciation | April 2016 Game Club Month of Tears pick: Battletoads
That said, we do still need a fifth pick. And I can't actually say 'No' to Battletoads, though it is right up against the price limit.
It sucks because Zen would be great for this. Isolated Warrior does look like it would be fun, which is also a shame.
Shadow Hog
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Nah, I was making a joke. I don't like Battletoads nearly enough to force others to suffer through it.