Eh, if he had a melta or a krak nade, it's not that bad of a tactic. A sergeant or a captain with a power weapon could probably do it too. But a lone battlebrother without anti armor nades it's suicidal.
Still, DoW2 had the best intro/trailer.
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Eh, if he had a melta or a krak nade, it's not that bad of a tactic. A sergeant or a captain with a power weapon could probably do it too. But a lone battlebrother without anti armor nades it's suicidal.
Still, DoW2 had the best intro/trailer.
Nikodemos
Member
Yeah, the whole "No, it belongs to them" was one heck of a "Surprise, motherfucker!" moment.
Every DoW intro has the Space Marines doing something stupid. Add to the discussed the Dark Crusade intro, where a handful of Blood Ravens decide to charge a Necron Monolith .
I wonder if it's a running joke for Relic.
That was hype.
I wonder if it's a running joke for Relic.
That was hype.
well, it's space marines, so presumably in the novelisation of dawn of war, the monolith was singlehandedly destroyed by a plucky scout (who also singlehandedly fought off the entire necron army, including beating the nightbringer 1 on 1 in armed combat with only his bowie knife), and was instantly promoted to chapter commander or whatever. and then the eldar gave him open unlimited borrowing access to the black library for his efforts.
And that scout was only armed with a multilaser.
How the fuck did he have a multilaser when it's a IG vehicle weapon? Who knows, It's C.S "Multilaser" Goto writing them.
well we are talking about a race that's in danger of going extinct but still fields citizen militia equipped with damp tissue paper armour and wielding potato guns
eldar lore has never really made a lot of sense
Eldar involvement since DoW1, to a tee:
Eldar: DO THIS ILLOGICAL THING, OR WE'RE ALL DOOMED, HUMAN
Human: WHY? That doesn't seem to make sense. What's going to happen?
Eldar: You wouldn't understand.
Human: Try me. I want to do the right thing. Let's be friends.
Eldar: No you're too dumb.
Human: Oh yeah? Fine. *does what seems more logical*
Eldar: FOOL! YOU'VE SEALED OUR FATES!!! *explains what happened*
Human: WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT WHEN I ASKED YOU?!
Eldar: Well..I......go fuck yourself *teleports away*
Perfect example.
Muskieratboi
Member
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$32 US for the DoW Franchise pack, which has 1,2, and all the DLCs and expansions.
https://www.humblebundle.com/store/dawn-of-war-franchise-pack
Dictator93
Member
How often do people actually field guardians in the table top? Beyond weapon platforms... I honestly think I have never seen them....
Poodlestrike
Banned
Fun fact; as a rule, most Ork infestations don't get eliminated. You'd need to burn most planets to the ground to manage that. They just get... managed. Like kudzu. But moreso. So the local Guard forces (well, militia) will occasionally have to head in and stomp some Ork village that starts raiding the local populace before it builds itself up into an outright horde.
Tyranids actually just straight-up avoid Tomb Worlds, as a rule. It's just not worth the biomass investment to them. Sure, maybe they win, but why bother? They can't eat these ones.
Also, I keep saying this, but the emotionless grey hordes are still out there, there's just more to the 'crons now.
Nikodemos
Member
Isn't the Gauss Flayer, the standard weapon of a Necron footsoldier, supposed to cause immense pain to Synapse creatures whenever a random 'Nid under their control gets scragged by a 'Cron?
Poodlestrike
Banned
That too.
But the Hive Mind doesn't really give a damn about that. Humans, Orks, Eldar, Tau, even Chaos, they can get biomass out of the deal. Necrons? Not so much.
That is just it. That is the general over-arrogance of the Eldar, but then we have Idranel, who actively sabotages the defenses of the Imperium, which in turn weakens the sub-sectors readiness to repel the incoming Tyranid Hive-fleet, which would target a Craftworld when and if it were to successfully assimilate the biomass in there.
The explanation and stated goal do not in any way or form make logical sense with what they were doing. Even blowing up the Hive World of Meridian would have left the most juicy planet in the system, Typhon, ready and waiting for some omnomnom. Even if Kyras was already at that point somehow distorting the Seer Councils vision, the steps of logical deduction taken from vision A to actions B must have been found at the bottom of some really high quality space-mead bottle.
Fuck, Rites of War had the Eldar form an alliance with the local Imperial forces the moment they found out that the Maiden World they were fighting on was hosting some Nids.
As a long time fan, I'm still not used to these "nice guy", diplomatic Necrons. We outchea warning the new populations of "our" worlds that we'll give them a month to gtfo, before we attack. Back in my day, their kids would come home from vacation and there'd be nothing but a few atoms floating around.
The whole "we're older and we know better" trope is way played out now.
Just kill Eldar on sight. It'd be less annoying.
Farseer Taldeer eventually had some brains, I miss her.
Yeah I constantly facepalmed through that one. Why not say "Hey humans, the Nids are coming."
The whole "we're older and we know better" trope is way played out now.
Just kill Eldar on sight. It'd be less annoying.
Farseer Taldeer eventually had some brains, I miss her.
i dunno, i haven't played the TT game since i was about 14
but dire avengers are basically the same thing; armed with potato guns and protected by damp tissues
iyanden are the only craftworld that makes sense, fielding lots of wraithguard and wraithlords to do the fighting for them. but because it makes too much sense for the eldar to field tough, well-armoured infantry with a gun that can pop a tank and who are already dead, of course they have to consider it a disaster and abomination and not a perfectly sensible thing for a nearly dead race for which every life is a precious commodity.
the problem with writing eldar is that in the lore they're a lot smarter than humans, so you have to invent some kind of labyrinthe masterplan for them
but then of course it's written by a person, so it's actually just stupid
shrapnelmagnet
Member
One of the artists on the trailer uploaded a bunch of related art in anyone wants to take a gander 
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/ZR42R
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/ZR42R
Cosmic Schwung
Member
Not sure I like how organic they've made the Eldar gear look. It looks kinda gross and more like what I'd expect from Tyranids. The banshee mask looks like it's been nicked from a predator, and why is she carrying a dire avenger rune?
Dawn of War has always played loose with the lore (which I'm not complaining about) but I always thought that the wraithbone was organic in nature. It's far more interesting than the shiny plastic look they've had in the past. A little color would help them a lot, however.
I like the theme they have with the very organic looking wraithbone, though I think it was just taken too far, as the Eldar are always about grace and sleek and artistic forms. The veins, glands and lumps don't really fit in with that. So I like to look in regards to the units and the theme they went with, but I recognize it to be ill fitting in regards to the lore and what I've personally come to expect of the Eldar, I guess. A toned down version of it might be more... 'canon.'
The random Dire Averger rune is kinda random, but you could just say it is an Autarch-prospect who has already gone through the DA phase and is now doing a Banshee tour.
The random Dire Averger rune is kinda random, but you could just say it is an Autarch-prospect who has already gone through the DA phase and is now doing a Banshee tour.
One of the artists on the trailer uploaded a bunch of related art in anyone wants to take a gander
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/ZR42R
Hey are you still at relic?
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
A little late on this but I just saw the trailer.
Jesus. That was one of the best trailers I've seen. I actually have a lump in my throat from watching this trailer! Like it actually has made me speechless of how well done the trailer is, especially the narration and the sound design, and the final reveal.
Please be good, and I hope it tries to maintain this style, at least in the campaign.
Jesus. That was one of the best trailers I've seen. I actually have a lump in my throat from watching this trailer! Like it actually has made me speechless of how well done the trailer is, especially the narration and the sound design, and the final reveal.
Please be good, and I hope it tries to maintain this style, at least in the campaign.
BattleMonkey
Member
Those images are of wraithbone armor, it's supposed to be actual bone armor. Other eldar units will not look like that.
The dire avengers and the dark reapers use the same kind of armour as the howling banshees shown, so it should look alike just with different colours.
If you look at the screenshot with the eldar cover the damaged parts have a bone-like look
Also the broken wraith guard
Cosmic Schwung
Member
Wraithbone isn't bone. It's solidified warp stuff 'sung' into being by specialised seers. Also aspect armour isn't made from it. It's basic mesh armour covered with extra plates and the extra kit and flourishes that are part of that particular aspect. The wraithknight will be made of wraithbone but I wouldn't expect it to look so...veiny. Relic have gone for a very literal interpretation of the name.
Pantaghana
Member
Don't speak German so I have no idea what was said, but it sure was nice looking.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Looks FANTASTIC!
I look forward to an English narrated video for details, but the graphics already look better, and combat is hitting all kinds of right buttons for me.
cripterion
Member
Hmmm doesn't look too hot..
I'm in the fantastic camp
Keep the fidelity reasonable, amp the fuck out of unit volume and scale of battles, variations of units and flow. Looks exactly like I want... almost... I want more units, more action more scale!!
It's a good starting point though!
PC Gaming Show will have more footage in English
Dictator93
Member
He said no cover and the probability that base buildings only exist to build units.
Pre-alpha looks OK but not spectacular.
LordRaptor
Member
Gabe's seen some shit off camera, huh?
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He looked like this last time
StarlordDial
Member
so awesome ! I'm so happy base building is back ;_;
The DOTA elements are basically straight out of the second game where it was more of a Real Time Adventure game than an RTS.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Gabe's seen some shit off camera, huh?
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He looked like this last time
Is it possible to roid out your jaw muscles?
Is Real Time Tactical a genre? Because I'd call it that, with heavy RPG elements.
I'm not sure what they called it themselves but that is as good a title as any.
Rellik
Member
To sum things up from the PCGH preview video:
- Larger in scale than previous DoW games.
- No cover system at all to emphasis a more aggressive playstyle while making use of special abilities.
- Base building seems to exist solely for unit production, they assume that there will be little to none stationary defensive capabilities.
- Drop pods and orbital cannons will be unlocked in the later stages of the singleplayer campaign.
- No release date yet, they assume that it might be next year.
- Larger in scale than previous DoW games.
- No cover system at all to emphasis a more aggressive playstyle while making use of special abilities.
- Base building seems to exist solely for unit production, they assume that there will be little to none stationary defensive capabilities.
- Drop pods and orbital cannons will be unlocked in the later stages of the singleplayer campaign.
- No release date yet, they assume that it might be next year.
Kacho
Member
Thanks for that. The removal of the cover system is music to my ears. Slowed the game down way too much in DOW2.
ShinMaruku
Member
Gabe's seen some shit off camera, huh?
e:
He looked like this last time
He had his body repaied from being wrecked. He's the Caphter Master now.