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Alan Wake - The First 12 Minutes (German)
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PopcornMegaphone
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I suddenly have a massive hard on.
LordPhoque
Banned
PopcornMegaphone said:
:lol I guess you're right.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Peff said:
Wwwwwow that sounds awesome.
Karma said:
It's possible that I'll eventually get the game. I think the game looks good. The only area of contention I have is whether or not this game can be placed in the top tier of console games, graphically.
I'll lay it out some things I like about the game in a list so it's easy for some to understand.
-The gameplay looks good.
-I think the in-game lighting is excellent.
-The game oozes atmosphere.
-The game looks like a tense thriller, we need more games like this.
I would like to know more about the exploration aspects of the game. Once reviews come out, we'll know more. Not that I have a problem with linear gameplay. Some of my favorite games are very linear.
Jtyettis said:
I don't have a 360. I'm going to have to get one eventually. I'm not anti-360, it just doesn't make sense for me to have one at the moment. I was initially scared away because of the RROD stuff, but I figure that, at this point, the newest hardware is just as reliable as the other consoles. Free wi-fi is provided per my lease so I'd have to buy a wi-fi adapter to get online with a 360. I'm against paying for online multiplayer.
There are a number of games that are on 360 but not on PS3 that I'd love to play, including Mass Effect 1/2, Banjo, a bunch of XBLA games, Left 4 Dead 1/2, Dead Rising, Crackdown and more.
It just made more sense at the time I was looking to get back into gaming to buy a PS3. I still don't have enough time to play all the games I want to on that system.
Metalic Sand
who is Emo-Beas?
Shurs said:
Besides resolution debate how is this not a top graphical game on Consoles? I would really like to hear a top 5 graphical games list from you.
You put up this point
-I think the in-game lighting is excellent.
That is graphical is it not?
Metalic Sand said:
Do we really want to get into this again?
Jtyettis said:
It might be a must-have. There are enough games on 360 collectively to make it a must-have system, it's just a matter of having the time for all of them, plus the other reasons I stated in my last post.
LordPhoque
Banned
So you have 100 posts in a thread dedicated to a game you're not even sure to buy ? And you're saying you don't have enough time for gaming ? :lol
TheLegendary
Member
Metalic Sand said:
NOOOOOOOOOO.
Don't get him started again. Damnit!
LordPhoque said:
Some people enjoy spending their time endlessy crusading against things that they have no interest in. Makes them feel better about themselves. Should have been evident 20 pages ago.
Metalic Sand
who is Emo-Beas?
Shurs said:
You seem so worried about purchasing the game because it doesnt hit some top tier of graphics(So far, from what you are saying). Which really shouldnt matter. Its as if you are somehow trying to form excuses for yourself not to want to get it. besides not even owning a 360.
TheLegendary said:
Taking a break from reach and im bored, Whats so bad about talking? its not like this is the official thread.
LordPhoque said:
I can multi-task while posting on GAF. When I play a game, I like to give it my full attention.
Edit: Also, is it so hard to see why my post count in this thread is so high when people specifically ask me questions (bait me) like Karma did a few minutes ago? I then give an honest answer but that's not good enough for some of you.
I'm sorry I don't love the game that none of us have played as much as you do.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Shurs said:
You don't love the game, you don't have the system it's on, you're not even sure whether you'll want to buy either the game or system, what are you even doing in the thread then ? :lol
Circle Jerk
Member
man theres not loving the game and then theres posting over a hundred times in a thread for a game you cant play and arent sure youre going to buyShurs said:
Karma said:
Man I hate to keep defending Shurs (since he's out), but are you shitting me? How many games come out and people play them and it's "one of the best looking games", and that's not even remotely true?
What makes something the one of the best looking games this gen is subjective, and you can't put an end to the subject by utilizing a few people's personal opinions (often driven by "afterglow" from the fact that they're playing the game and we're not)
With the resolution issue alone, my own personal feeling means it's excluded from the list. neither view is wrong, and you can't put an end to either view by someone's opinion and be all "you shouldn't worry!"
Metalic Sand
who is Emo-Beas?
Shurs said:
Im just trying to figure out how you think :lol
Your honest answers dont really go with what you actually say.
Amir0x said:
Actually if there are enough people from reputable sites saying the same general comments on the matter I think enough of a conclusion can be drawn. Is it definitive; absolutely not. But then again that is why we will all get to test it out in a couple of weeks. Graphics certainly do not seem to be a concern at all outside of what has been described as uncanny valley a couple of times. Are they top tier this gen maybe. Again we who will play this game and reviewers will decide ultimately. Even if I was borderline the graphics would certainly be a pro not a con. If I was a non 360 owner would that push me over the edge? I dont know. ( I should admit I'm not one to go out and buy a console on this kind of measure alone). For me it is non-issue at this point because that last video sealed the deal.
However this is much more important to me at this point;
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Amir0x said:
But those are the same guys who are eventually gonna write up reviews for the game that are followed by the masses .. it's their personal opinion sure, but it's still a reassuring thing when you read someone say something positive about an aspect that a lot of people think is not that positive anymore.
edit : more importantly for me though is that multiple people have tweeted in favor of the game having some of the best atmosphere they've seen.
Metalic Sand
who is Emo-Beas?
miladesn said:
144.
chandoog said:
These are the same guys that are going write up reviews? That's the argument in favor of their opinion being some sort of end-all-be-all?
For as smart as GAF is, I swear, it has a shorter term memory than fucking Cheech and Chong. EVEN if you held up game journalism as some sort of standard to be compared to (and it's not - it's uniformly terrible), the reality is there can be no consensus on how successful something is visually. If we all agreed on what was an acceptable standard on visuals, people wouldn't still be acting like Wii had games with good 3D graphics.
No, I don't bring up Wii to trash it as I tend to do - it's just the point that everyone has a different metric for what makes a good visuals good. To me, resolution is one of the most important issues with games today. The difference in visual detail and clarity is immense, and Alan Wake has served to be one of the most crushing disappointments to me yet in this regard. As the reason I purchased a 360, the fact that it's not even part of the HD gen is damning to me. And automatically removes it from any list of the greats this gen.
But, that's my standard! Why should my standard be more important than any others? The same applies for these reviewers. No amount of reviewer opinions can put to rest the debate about the merits of Alan Wake's visuals.
adamsapple
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Man said:
See this is what I'm talking about .. some of you guys have decided that Alan Wake is a visually unimpressive game now because it doesn't push as many pixels as some other games do, where as the media and hands on previews from the guys playing the retail version imply very heavily otherwise.
I'm just banking on the fact that Remedy know what they're doing, the tech video that was released a day or two ago certainly shows some mighty impressive technology behind the game. Y'all should see it.
http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/...ideos/alanwake_trl_tech_featurette_42810.html
TheLegendary
Member
Amir0x said:
Way to speak in generalities.
abacab driver
Banned
Are people really still trying to convince themselves that Alan Wake isn't an incredible looking game?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
abacab driver said:
If only pixel count alone defined the entire visual fidelity of a game.
Amir0x said:
This is very funny business but I like it. So this begs what in fact is the list of greats from you this gen, but we can narrow that down even further let's just say 360. Because I can tell you and after playing pretty much all the greats this gen HD wise there is no doubt in my mind this is one of the best I've ever seen in that last video from Korea.
And see we can put aside what previwers are saying as well because people actually outside of reviwers are saying the same. I suppose your standard shouldn't be put above the others but if there is a general consenus among the gaming community then yea I think it can and will be put above a few naysayers on resolution. I'll take stock in the reviews on the graphical level, but my own personal opinion after playing the game will be enough for me to make a final call. And I say all this preferring to have 720p as well. It's a good debate, but it isn't going to be one worth even having after the game hits though. I know this much to be true.
Bpatrol said:
It's a good discussion to be sure, but it matters little because there becomes a point when a game just doesn't matter how good it is due to the fact that simply put nothing will convince someone to invest in the hardware and the game.
chandoog said:
ITT people try to utilize the phrase "pixel counters" to devalue the vast importance of resolution, as if it puts them "above the fray."
There is a reason there exists "pixel counters" at all. It's because resolution is one of the cornerstones of visual fidelity. It's one of THE single most important aspects to use when determining a games basic technical bona fides. Within it, all of its lesser aspects weigh upon, even up to and including its art direction, as the less resolution the less clarity and detail you have to share your vision.
It doesn't make you somehow beyond reproach to ignore the issue or discredit those who find a problem with it as "pixel counters". It just makes you seem out out of touch with the realities of the problem.
Jtyettis said:
There will never be any metacritic, gamerankings or any other accumulative "consensus" that can wash away legitimate criticism on subjective subjects like overall game quality, visuals, music, controls. It's an impossibility. Because it is an inherently subjective subject, where what an individual values comes into play above all else. In this, the value of a single opinion is equal to the value of three hundred. It's all about what your flavor is.
adamsapple
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Amir0x said:
the metacriticz are teh serious buzness !
anyway, i understand others criticism, but i still think it's weird to say this game will not be visually impressive mainly for it's resolution, yes its subjective, but my display of bewilderment is also subjective.
elrechazado
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It's always convenient to either shit on reviewers or praise them, just depends on the point one is making at the time. All you have to do is read gaf or any other forum ....Amir0x said:
Game I like that reviews poorly? It's those lolworthy reviewers and their shitty journalism full of payola and they don't like what I like anyway, right?
Game I like that reviews well? "Look at the reviews, you're crazy if you think this is a bad game!"
Luckily, everyone will be able to play this game and enjoy it, or not enjoy it, and no review or other person's opinion, no matter how tortured they might be that you hate something they seem to like, can change that.