Dabanton said:I hope this leads to more game makers adding commentary to their games i would rather have some in depth commentaries vs another rubbish plastic figurine.
LordPhoque said:You're right about some people being trolls though, but it doesn't mean that it's forbidden to argue about what they say.
PopcornMegaphone said:
Peff said:From a Remedy staffer.
hilarygoldstein: Just finished Alan Wake @remedyalerts. It's great when story and gameplay work as one -- Congrats!
Karma said:Shurs, have you pre-ordered the game yet?
Shurs said:I might not need to
Karma said:Why is that? You getting the game or not?
Jtyettis said:Not sure why I was under the impression he didn't even have a 360 heh.
Jtyettis said:Not sure why I was under the impression he didn't even have a 360 heh.
Shurs said:I don't have a 360.
Shurs said:It's possible that I'll eventually get the game. I think the game looks good. The only area of contention I have is whether or not this game can be placed in the top tier of console games, graphically.
I'll lay it out some things I like about the game in a list so it's easy for some to understand.
Metalic Sand said:Besides resolution debate how is this not a top graphical game on Consoles? I would really like to hear a top 5 graphical games list from you.
Jtyettis said:Ok, I didn't think I was dreaming because that would a big obstacle as to getting the game. If I was going to jump in this year I'd just wait it out until the Slim really unless something like AW was just a must have.
Karma said:Ofcourse he has a 360. Why would he post so much in this thread unless he had a 360 and was thinking of buying Alan Wake?
Shurs said:I don't have a 360.
jedimike said:I really hope this thread doesn't become the Official Alan Wake thread... come on creative GAF, give AW a proper thread.
Metalic Sand said:Besides resolution debate how is this not a top graphical game on Consoles? I would really like to hear a top 5 graphical games list from you.
You put up this point
-I think the in-game lighting is excellent.
That is graphical is it not?
LordPhoque said:So you have 100 posts in a thread dedicated to a game you're not even sure to buy ? And you said you haven't enough time for gaming ? :lol
Shurs said:Do we really want to get into this again?
TheLegendary said:NOOOOOOOOOO.
Don't get him started again. Damnit!
LordPhoque said:So you have 100 posts in a thread dedicated to a game you're not even sure to buy ? And you said you haven't enough time for gaming ? :lol
Shurs said:It's possible that I'll eventually get the game. I think the game looks good. The only area of contention I have is whether or not this game can be placed in the top tier of console games, graphically.
Shurs said:I'm sorry I don't love the game that none of us have played as much as you do.
man theres not loving the game and then theres posting over a hundred times in a thread for a game you cant play and arent sure youre going to buyShurs said:I can multi-task while posting on GAF. When I play a game, I like to give it my full attention.
Edit: Also, is it so hard to see why my post count in this thread is so high when people specifically ask me questions (bait me) like Karma did a few minutes ago? I then give an honest answer but that's not good enough for some of you.
I'm sorry I don't love the game that none of us have played as much as you do.
Karma said:Read the comments for the people that have played the game and you will clearly see it is one of the best looking games this gen. So you dont need to worry about that anymore.
Shurs said:Edit: Also, is it so hard to see why my post count in this thread is so high when people specifically ask me questions (bait me) like Karma did a few minutes ago? I then give an honest answer but that's not good enough for some of you.
I'm sorry I don't love the game that none of us have played as much as you do.
What games are you giving your full attention to right now? Honest questionShurs said:I can multi-task while posting on GAF. When I play a game, I like to give it my full attention.
Edit: Also, is it so hard to see why my post count in this thread is so high when people specifically ask me questions (bait me) like Karma did a few minutes ago? I then give an honest answer but that's not good enough for some of you.
I'm sorry I don't love the game that none of us have played as much as you do.
LordPhoque said:So you have 100 posts in a thread dedicated to a game you're not even sure to buy ? And you're saying you don't have enough time for gaming ? :lol
Amir0x said:Man I hate to keep defending Shurs (since he's out), but are you shitting me? How many games come out and people play them and it's "one of the best looking games", and that's not even remotely true?
What makes something the one of the best looking games this gen is subjective, and you can't put an end to the subject by utilizing a few people's personal opinions (often driven by "afterglow" from the fact that they're playing the game and we're not)
With the resolution issue alone, my own personal feeling means it's excluded from the list. neither view is wrong, and you can't put an end to either view by someone's opinion and be all "you shouldn't worry!"
hilarygoldstein: Just finished Alan Wake @remedyalerts. It's great when story and gameplay work as one -- Congrats!
Amir0x said:What makes something the one of the best looking games this gen is subjective, and you can't put an end to the subject by utilizing a few people's personal opinions (often driven by "afterglow" from the fact that they're playing the game and we're not)
miladesn said:How many pages is that Alan Wake book? looks quite thick.
chandoog said:But those are the same guys who are eventually gonna write up reviews for the game that are followed by the masses .. it's their personal opinion sure, but it's still a reassuring thing when you read someone say something positive about an aspect that a lot of people think is not that positive anymore.
Amir0x said:Man I hate to keep defending Shurs (since he's out), but are you shitting me? How many games come out and people play them and it's "one of the best looking games", and that's not even remotely true?
What makes something the one of the best looking games this gen is subjective, and you can't put an end to the subject by utilizing a few people's personal opinions (often driven by "afterglow" from the fact that they're playing the game and we're not)
With the resolution issue alone, my own personal feeling means it's excluded from the list. neither view is wrong, and you can't put an end to either view by someone's opinion and be all "you shouldn't worry!"
I'm not sure how it's even arguable. It's resolution, it's pretty much the most basic principle that determines graphics performance.Amir0x said:With the resolution issue alone, my own personal feeling means it's excluded from the list.
Man said:I'm not sure how it's even arguable. It's resolution, it's pretty much the most basic principle that determines graphics performance.
Remedy's 360 engine can't stoke with HD, it's not even near HD. Mario Galaxy pushes more pixels than Alan Wake per second.
Amir0x said:These are the same guys that are going write up reviews? That's the argument in favor of their opinion being some sort of end-all-be-all?
For as smart as GAF is, I swear, it has a shorter term memory than fucking Cheech and Chong. EVEN if you held up game journalism as some sort of standard to be compared to (and it's not - it's uniformly terrible), the reality is there can be no consensus on how successful something is visually. If we all agreed on what was an acceptable standard on visuals, people wouldn't still be acting like Wii had games with good 3D graphics.
No, I don't bring up Wii to trash it as I tend to do - it's just the point that everyone has a different metric for what makes a good visuals good. To me, resolution is one of the most important issues with games today. The difference in visual detail and clarity is immense, and Alan Wake has served to be one of the most crushing disappointments to me yet in this regard. As the reason I purchased a 360, the fact that it's not even part of the HD gen is damning to me. And automatically removes it from any list of the greats this gen.
But, that's my standard! Why should my standard be more important than any others? The same applies for these reviewers. No amount of reviewer opinions can put to rest the debate about the merits of Alan Wake's visuals.
abacab driver said:Are people really still trying to convince themselves that Alan Wake isn't an incredible looking game?
Amir0x said:These are the same guys that are going write up reviews? That's the argument in favor of their opinion being some sort of end-all-be-all?
For as smart as GAF is, I swear, it has a shorter term memory than fucking Cheech and Chong. EVEN if you held up game journalism as some sort of standard to be compared to (and it's not - it's uniformly terrible), the reality is there can be no consensus on how successful something is visually. If we all agreed on what was an acceptable standard on visuals, people wouldn't still be acting like Wii had games with good 3D graphics.
No, I don't bring up Wii to trash it as I tend to do - it's just the point that everyone has a different metric for what makes a good visuals good. To me, resolution is one of the most important issues with games today. The difference in visual detail and clarity is immense, and Alan Wake has served to be one of the most crushing disappointments to me yet in this regard. As the reason I purchased a 360, the fact that it's not even part of the HD gen is damning to me. And automatically removes it from any list of the greats this gen.
But, that's my standard! Why should my standard be more important than any others? The same applies for these reviewers. No amount of reviewer opinions can put to rest the debate about the merits of Alan Wake's visuals.
Bpatrol said:man theres not loving the game and then theres posting over a hundred times in a thread for a game you cant play and arent sure youre going to buy
Yes, and these people suck!abacab driver said:Are people really still trying to convince themselves that Alan Wake isn't an incredible looking game?
chandoog said:If only pixel count alone defined the entire visual fidelity of a game.
Jtyettis said:This is very funny business but I like it. So this begs what in fact is the list of greats from you this gen, but we can narrow that down even further let's just say 360. Because I can tell you and after playing pretty much all the greats this gen HD wise there is no doubt in my mind this is one of the best I've ever seen in last video from Korea.
And see we can put aside what previwers are saying as well because people actually outside of reviwers are saying the same. I suppose your standard shouldn't be put above the others but if there is a general consenus among the gaming community then yea I think it can and will be put above a few naysayers on resolution. I'll take stock in the reviews on the graphical level, but my own personal opinion after playing the game will be enough for me to make a final call. And I say all this preferring to have 720p as well. It's a good debate, but it isn't going to be one worth even having after the game hits though. I know this much to be true.
Amir0x said:In this, the value of a single opinion is equal to the value of three hundred. It's all about what your flavor is[/B].
Amir0x said:I know I should think of the reviewers and their standard of unlimited quality game criticism!
It's always convenient to either shit on reviewers or praise them, just depends on the point one is making at the time. All you have to do is read gaf or any other forum ....Amir0x said:I know I should think of the reviewers and their standard of unlimited quality game criticism!
Amir0x said:I know I should think of the reviewers and their standard of unlimited quality game criticism!
elrechazao said:It's always convenient to either shit on reviewers or praise them, just depends on the point one is making at the time. All you have to do is read gaf or any other forum ....
Game I like that reviews poorly? It's those lolworthy reviewers and their shitty journalism full of payola and they don't like what I like anyway, right?
Game I like that reviews well? "Look at the reviews, you're crazy if you think this is a bad game!"
Luckily, everyone will be able to play this game and enjoy it, or not enjoy it, and no review or other person's opinion, no matter how tortured they might be that you hate something they seem to like, can change that.