No, actually that's wrong. The PS3 userbase just before FFXIII came out was like 4 million. The PS4 userbase just before FFXV came out was 3.6 million. The hardware gap isn't that wide. People are just sick of paying 8800yen for garbage games when they can play awesome free games on their phones like Terra Battle from the Father of Final Fantasy instead.
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Japan: Final Fantasy XV down ~56% from FF13, lowest singleplayer debut since FF5
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No, actually that's wrong. The PS3 userbase just before FFXIII came out was like 4 million. The PS4 userbase just before FFXV came out was 3.6 million. The hardware gap isn't that wide. People are just sick of paying 8800yen for garbage games when they can play awesome free games on their phones like Terra Battle from the Father of Final Fantasy instead.
gundamkyoukai
Member
This is what happens when try to target everyone and end up pissing off long time fans.
While not getting any new people to buy your game.
While not getting any new people to buy your game.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Not really, I don't feel XV's character designs and general aesthetics were created this way to directly appeal to Western markets. The real world approach was just something Nomura's team wanted to try since it had never been done before. A lot of it existed when it was Versus.
Shinji Hashimoto has already stated the next FF won't necessarily go down the same avenues as XV.
sublimit
Banned
The main party got a pretty big make over to appeal more to Western people with the end result being a weird mix of characteristics that look strange to both Western and Japanese fans IMO.
Devilgunman
Member
Enjoy your mobile games, Japan.
How does Shinji Hashimoto even still have a job? When was the last project he produced which made any money at all?
Personally I'm just glad that the game turned out to be good, how many copies it sells is only important for Final Fantasy's future. The issue at hand is what impact this will have on the next FF if FF XV is a critical success but doesn't meet financial expectations (which seems to be the case but could change).
Will Square give the development team the same time and financial resources to make another good game. I think because of the critical success there isn't much to be worried about but not meeting financial expectations does make it a concern that they could blow it all up and try something radically different. Which may or may not be a good thing.
Will Square give the development team the same time and financial resources to make another good game. I think because of the critical success there isn't much to be worried about but not meeting financial expectations does make it a concern that they could blow it all up and try something radically different. Which may or may not be a good thing.
I mean, they are enjoying them, lol.
FF 16 to be a gacha game
Whompa02
Member
Considering it's being planned as episodic content and not even a full experience? I doubt that well.
Persona 5 sold about half what FFXV sold and it was on both PS3 and PS4. I'm pretty sure 700,000 on it's first week makes FFXV would put FFXV very close to the top of fastest selling PS4 games in Japan.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
FFXV?
JayWood2010
Member
This was in August, but FFXV's first week has sold more than any of the top 50 games of japan's first 8 months. Why people ignore this, idk.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/08/01/japans-best-selling-games-2016/
I keep forgetting how much more these games cost in Japan. That makes it all the more insulting to deliver the product that they did.
Yeesh.
I imagine the combat and open world is a bit of a turn off, too. FF and Dragon Quest have largely been seen as chillout games. This game is far more agressive and far less passive.
Disappointing news for the franchise. Weirdly enough, I think FF will recover. Both FF14 and FF15 have a positive reputation that can benefit the next FF game. Given the development time FF15 went through, I'm actually impressed the performance -- both critically and commercially -- wasn't a complete nightmare.
I think they really need to nail the FF7 remake. If they can go into FF16 with overall positive impressions from FF14, FF15, and FF7R, then I think a lot more people will be on board to play it.
I think they really need to nail the FF7 remake. If they can go into FF16 with overall positive impressions from FF14, FF15, and FF7R, then I think a lot more people will be on board to play it.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
He produces games?
I thought he just shows up on the odd stage every few years to announce an announcement?
gundamkyoukai
Member
If you think the Japanese want to play all male party .
When this is first time ever this has happen with a FF mainline game.
FFXV is probably already the best selling PS4 games with its first week alone. I don't recall a single PS4 game that did better tbh.
The Dear Leader
Banned
There isn't a handheld or mobile version so I can see why.
Hashmal_Bringer_of_Order
Member
Sad considering FFXV is at least 56% better than FFXIII but i don't think there's anything they could have done to not see some sort of drop of there. At least it's doing well worldwide.
If it has art as good as this it'll already be more appealing than FFXV.
is that an in-game render
"A Final Fantasy For Fans And First-Timers"
If it has art as good as this it'll already be more appealing than FFXV.
Yikes.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Noctis > Lightning still
Which is weird because nowhere else globally is the brand down so much, its even likely to have grown in some areas like Asia.
Goldenroad
Member
Yeah, after XIII, there is no way I'm ever buying a FF game at full price again. Maybe once it hits the bargain bins I might go pick it up, but there are tons of games out already to play this holiday season, XV can wait until spring/summer.
Good Guy Gone Bad
Member
Not surprising considering that the console market is in the shitter in Japan, no way it'd pull the same numbers a game did 7 years ago did. 700k is still a pretty decent start... highest selling PS4 game at this point, yeah?
Could've been worse
Could've been worse
Your right about the amounts. The point about Persona 5 though still stands.
gundamkyoukai
Member
If they truly believe that they were high as fuck lol.
As a long time fan this FF is not that good at all.
How many PS3s were sold through when FFXIII vs PS4s today? That should give us a better idea. My guess is that it is more of FFXV problem.
If it has art as good as this it'll already be more appealing than FFXV.
I don't like that art. I don't like FF XV characters art too,it's too realistic. Something like FF VI,VII would be good. A good mix of realistic and fantasy art.
Ivory Samoan
Gold Member
Yet the game is amazing IMO and is resonating well with a whole new gamer generation in the west and everywhere else (it's on fire down here in NZ too, lots of sales if people talking here is anything to go by).
I guess it's just an evolution of the franchise in where it's doing well, also I see it having very long legs with the way word of mouth is going: feels like cult hit after the XIII and co ventures.
It's not weird. Growth in Asia is completely normal because it is a developing market. In the past Japan completely ignored Asia and only published Japanese games in Asia. When they realized they were throwing money away by not building on an interested audience, they started paying more attention to actually publishing games here in languages the people actually understand, and having proper marketing and events that serve the local market.
The Asian market isn't suddenly getting more interested, we've always been interested, but instead of buying US or JP imports, we can actually buy local versions now.
Interfectum
Member
Final Fantasy 7R's performance is going to be interesting.
"Objectively"
FalsettoVibe
Member
Awaiting worldwide numbers...
Oh god yessss, Square plis!
