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Mpl90 · Dec 18, 2011

Someone found this in the Vita Launch thread

Sales report postings on japanese sites [azalyn.blog22/ameblo.jp]

- Select stores report sellouts of Vita WiFi models.

- Estimated sellthroughs; Vita WiFi 85%, Vita 3G/WiFi 56%

- Top selling launch software Mogol6, Uncharted, Dynasty Vita. Ridgeracer "uncharacteristically" slow

- Memorycard stock low; 32G and 16G soldout, over 90% Vita buyer also bought memory cards

- software-Vita tie ratio 1:1

The link, however, doesn't work...and there are different things said in the azalyn normal blog (since he talks about his own store, obviously

).

So much waiting for the get6-2 report which should also discuss about these possible impressions.

haadim · Dec 18, 2011

Mpl90 said:
Someone found this in the Vita Launch thread

The link, however, doesn't work...and there are different things said in the azalyn normal blog (since he talks about his own store, obviously ).

So much waiting for the get6-2 report which should also discuss about these possible impressions.

full links (all in japanese)

http://azalyn.blog22.fc2.com/blog-entry-1426.html

http://ameblo.jp/omisedayori/entry-11109944534.html

http://ameblo.jp/hormonez/entry-11109809550.html

http://ameblo.jp/yosipooh/entry-11109986340.html

http://ameblo.jp/tadapon/entry-11110179699.html

http://ameblo.jp/oosakaking/entry-11109420557.html

http://ameblo.jp/chogameya/entry-11109646282.html

Mpl90 · Dec 18, 2011

haadim said:
full links (all in japanese)

http://azalyn.blog22.fc2.com/blog-entry-1426.html

http://ameblo.jp/omisedayori/entry-11109944534.html

http://ameblo.jp/hormonez/entry-11109809550.html

http://ameblo.jp/yosipooh/entry-11109986340.html

http://ameblo.jp/tadapon/entry-11110179699.html

http://ameblo.jp/oosakaking/entry-11109420557.html

http://ameblo.jp/chogameya/entry-11109646282.html

Ah, thanks. Reading everything...through Google Translator. It sucks I don't know japanese.

So many different games being "popular" at the various retailers: in one of these, it seems Lord of Apocalypse was the most requested lol

Maybe, we have just to wait Comgnet Weekly Ranking for now: that should give us a clearer picture of the whole situation.

Boken · Dec 18, 2011

Well I guess the 3DS is doomed. Time to pack your bags everybody.

Kenka · Dec 18, 2011

Estimated sellthroughs; Vita WiFi 85%, Vita 3G/WiFi 56%

I don't know the split but that means that we could very well have a 500k+ launch for the Vita ? That's an oustanding number if true

gkryhewy · Dec 18, 2011

Kenka said:
I don't know the split but that means that we could very well have a 500k+ launch for the Vita ? That's an oustanding number if true

Looks like a healthy launch, but IIRC the 3G model had a pretty high share of the expected split.

Mpl90 · Dec 18, 2011

gkryhewy said:
Looks like a healthy launch, but IIRC the 3G model had a pretty high share of the expected split.

One of the first news coming with the opening of preorders was that there was a 2:1 ratio in favour of the 3G model in availability

cw_sasuke · Dec 18, 2011

Kenka said:
I don't know the split but that means that we could very well have a 500k+ launch for the Vita ? That's an oustanding number if true

Yes, it also would need those kind of sales to outsell the 3DS this week. Cant wait for the numbers reveal - though i expect pretty weak software sales.

Spiegel · Dec 18, 2011

Kirby is selling better than Vita on amazon.jp, so we should expect <100k in the first week.

cw_sasuke · Dec 18, 2011

Spiegel said:
Kirby is selling better than Vita on amazon.jp, so we should expect <100k in the first week.

But there are two Vita versions - so +180-200K could still be possible, even if its unlikely.

TOTAL BOMBA confirmed.

Gravijah · Dec 18, 2011

Spiegel said:
Kirby is selling better than Vita on amazon.jp, so we should expect <100k in the first week.

what does that pointy hat next to 100k mean

AniHawk · Dec 18, 2011

Gravijah said:
what does that pointy hat next to 100k mean

it means it's a wizard

RPGamer92 · Dec 18, 2011

Happy to see Uncharted selling well. That franchise is really catching on in Japan

gkryhewy · Dec 18, 2011

Mpl90 said:
One of the first news coming with the opening of preorders was that there was a 2:1 ratio in favour of the 3G model in availability

If you apply that split to the rumored 700k launch and reported sell-through (rumor combined with rumor combined with rumor), you get a 460k launch.

AdventureRacing · Dec 18, 2011

Sounds really good for the vita. The total HW sales next week are going to be insane. Surely it will be one of the biggest weeks ever for HW.

Gravijah · Dec 18, 2011

AniHawk said:
it means it's a wizard

so it's a fad

viciouskillersquirrel · Dec 18, 2011

gkryhewy said:
If you apply that split to the rumored 700k launch and reported sell-through (rumor combined with rumor combined with rumor), you get a 460k launch.

I still don't see what the benefit of the 3G model would be over the WiFi model (and it seems like nobody in Japan does either). Good.

Mpl90 · Dec 18, 2011

gkryhewy said:
If you apply that split to the rumored 700k launch and reported sell-through (rumor combined with rumor combined with rumor), you get a 460k launch.

Too many rumors combined. Damn. We need concrete numbers. 10 hours and 15 minutes to Comgnet Weekly Sales Ranking for something MUCH nearer to concrete number. At least, for software.

AdventureRacing · Dec 18, 2011

gkryhewy said:
If you apply that split to the rumored 700k launch and reported sell-through (rumor combined with rumor combined with rumor), you get a 460k launch.

We need to go deeper.

AniHawk · Dec 18, 2011

Mpl90 said:
We need concrete numbers.

here you go

C_H_T · Dec 18, 2011

AniHawk said:
here you go

nice numbers.

Gravijah · Dec 18, 2011

viciouskillersquirrel said:
I still don't see what the benefit of the 3G model would be over the WiFi model (and it seems like nobody in Japan does either). Good.

i just hope those poor japanese don't think the 3g vita will play tri-g

Magicpaint · Dec 18, 2011

Spiegel said:
Kirby is selling better than Vita on amazon.jp, so we should expect <100k in the first week.

lol

Phoenician_Viking · Dec 18, 2011

viciouskillersquirrel said:
I still don't see what the benefit of the 3G model would be over the WiFi model (and it seems like nobody in Japan does either). Good.

56% of Japanese bought 3G model. 56% is nobody.

gkryhewy · Dec 18, 2011

Phoenician_Viking said:
56% of Japanese bought 3G model. 56% is nobody.

You need to check your math. 56% sell-through for the 3G model, not 56% purchase share. Though it probably ends up being about that if all the numbers we have are ballpark-correct.

Anyway, the 3G is pointless IMO, especially with a substandard web browser.

Phoenician_Viking · Dec 18, 2011

gkryhewy said:
You need to check your math. 56% sell-through for the 3G model, not 56% purchase share.

You need to check your sarcasm detector. I know what that meant. It still means plenty of people bought the 3G model.

Erethian · Dec 18, 2011

gkryhewy said:
If you apply that split to the rumored 700k launch and reported sell-through (rumor combined with rumor combined with rumor), you get a 460k launch.

Beats going off Amazon or Comgnet rankings... not that that's hard to do.

Mpl90 · Dec 18, 2011

Erethian said:
Beats going off Amazon or Comgnet rankings... not that that's hard to do.

It's an inception. XD

@Anihawk: Thanks, but I was talking about Vita's numbers, not about Pachter's ones.

electroplankton · Dec 18, 2011

Spiegel said:
Kirby is selling better than Vita on amazon.jp, so we should expect <100k in the first week.

And PokéPark better than 3DS!

test_account · Dec 18, 2011

Gravijah said:
what does that pointy hat next to 100k mean

< means "less than". > means "more than".

viciouskillersquirrel said:
I still don't see what the benefit of the 3G model would be over the WiFi model (and it seems like nobody in Japan does either). Good.

The benefit is to have internet access without having to relying on WiFi. 3G is "everywhere", WiFi isnt.

gkryhewy · Dec 18, 2011

test_account said:
The benefit is to have internet access without having to relying on WiFi. 3G is "everywhere", WiFi isnt.

Thank you, detective.

But what's the point of internet access if it can't be used to play multiplayer and can't be used to DL games? And the web browser stinks?

gogogow · Dec 18, 2011

test_account said:
< means "less than". > means "more than".

The benefit is to have internet access without having to relying on WiFi. 3G is "everywhere", WiFi isnt.

3G is kinda useless if some games cuts off network connectivity. Tethering ftw. No need to buy 3G cards and/or a second subscription.

Thunder Monkey · Dec 18, 2011

So what does this mean really?

Ani or Raichu, spell it out to me in simple terms.

test_account · Dec 18, 2011

gkryhewy said:
Thank you, detective.

But what's the point of internet access if it can't be used to play multiplayer and can't be used to DL games? And the web browser stinks?

No problem

From what i've read of impressions, the browser is actually quite good. There is also Twitter and stuff like that. And maybe some simpler games will allow online play over 3G. Maybe not everyone see the benefit with this of course, but i'm sure that someone does.

gogogow said:
3G is kinda useless if some games cuts off network connectivity. Tethering ftw. No need to buy 3G cards and/or a second subscription.

There are other things 3G can be used for. But that is up to each person to decide, if they see the need for it or not. Tethering probably works yeah. Have anyone tried it on the Vita by the way? And compared it to the direct 3G?

Gravijah · Dec 18, 2011

Thunder Monkey said:
So what does this mean really?

Ani or Raichu, spell it out to me in simple terms.

yes

Rhod · Dec 18, 2011

Thunder Monkey said:
So what does this mean really?

Ani or Raichu, spell it out to me in simple terms.

I'll give it a go:

From what Test Account is saying, it sounds like '<' is a mathematical symbol which isn't *only* used as the symbol for wizard.

Sounds like, if i have 'x' beans, and I know that 'x' is '<' 12, then I know that I have 11 or fewer beans.

I think beans make it clearer still.

'<' also looks somewhat like a chicken's face. And is very useful in that ascii kirby <(- -<) or whatever.

Sage00 · Dec 18, 2011

gkryhewy said:
Thank you, detective.

But what's the point of internet access if it can't be used to play multiplayer and can't be used to DL games? And the web browser stinks?

Being connected to the internet at all times - Notifications of what your friends are playing, invites to join games, messages / party chat, downloading content from the PSN store.

In other words, pretty much everything you'd actually want to do online with a handheld, especially in Japan. No one would be playing online multiplayer even if you could.

gkryhewy · Dec 18, 2011

Sage00 said:
Being connected to the internet at all times - Notifications of what your friends are playing, invites to join games, messages / party chat, downloading content from the PSN store.

In other words, pretty much everything you'd actually want to do online with a handheld, especially in Japan. No one would be playing online multiplayer even if you could.

But you can't DL games from the PSN store, and it might be difficult to accept those game invites if online MP isn't possible over 3G and you say no one wants to play online in Japan anyway.

Are friend notifications and PSN messaging worth 30 USD per month for some people? Seriously? Okay.

Thunder Monkey · Dec 18, 2011

Gravijah said:
yes

I thought so.

Interesting times.

Rhod said:
I'll give it a go:

From what Test Account is saying, it sounds like '<' is a mathematical symbol which isn't *only* used as the symbol for wizard.

Sounds like, if i have 'x' beans, and I know that 'x' is '<' 12, then I know that I have 11 or fewer beans.

I think beans make it clearer still.

'<' also looks somewhat like a chicken's face. And is very useful in that ascii kirby <(- -<) or whatever.

All that did was make my nose bleed.

wrowa · Dec 18, 2011

test_account said:
< means "less than". > means "more than".

The benefit is to have internet access without having to relying on WiFi. 3G is "everywhere", WiFi isnt.

I believe you forgot to switch on your text comprehension detectors today ;P

Mpl90 · Dec 18, 2011

This thread is becoming < interesting now. So, let's + a bit of discussion.

Seeing low games on Amazon for Vita (I know, I know

), I've started wondering something.

Could be possible that, despite what we normally see when datas for games sales on download services (so,rarely), Vita's games could see a good amount of sales coming from downloads, especially due to the various discounts?

cw_sasuke · Dec 18, 2011

Mpl90 said:
This thread is becoming < interesting now. So, let's + a bit of discussion.

Seeing low games on Amazon for Vita (I know, I know ), I've started wondering something.

Could be possible that, despite what we normally see when datas for games sales on download services (so,rarely), Vita's games could see a good amount of sales coming from downloads, especially due to the various discounts?

Most lauch week sales will happen at retail, where most people also will get their software titles. I think thats all there is too it. With the Vita userbase being low, its not surprising that popular software for more widespread consoles are charting higher.

test_account · Dec 18, 2011

wrowa said:
I believe you forgot to switch on your text comprehension detectors today ;P

To which quote? (i replied to two things there).

Chris1964 · Dec 18, 2011

Hardware sellthrough only at azalyn's store except that is pointless (we talk for the huge amount of 29 systems) it's not even mentioned. Where did these percentages come from?

Oh wait, tadapon gives this report. That's the correct then:

~~Sales report postings on japanese sites [azalyn.blog22/ameblo.jp]~~
Sales report posting on japanese site [ameblo.jp/tadapon]

- Estimated sellthroughs; Vita WiFi 85%, Vita 3G/WiFi 56%

Mpl90 · Dec 18, 2011

Chris1964 said:
Hardware sellthrough only at azalyn's store except that is pointless (we talk for the huge amount of 29 systems) it's not even mentioned. Where did these percentages come from?

Oh wait, tadapon gives this report. That's the correct then:

Chris, how much is tadapon reliable? Normally, we use reports from azalyn for shipments forecast, Sinobi for shipments and real sales, when it happens, and then get6-2 for really spot on impressions. tadapon is a good one?

EDIT: Is tadapon talking about sales just on its store/stores, or is he going with estimates for the whole situation? I don't know, Google Translator doesn't help at all.
Reading other posts, it seems he's talking about his store / store chains, for the precision of the percentages.

Kenka · Dec 18, 2011

Mpl90 said:
One of the first news coming with the opening of preorders was that there was a 2:1 ratio in favour of the 3G model in availability

Estimated sellthroughs; Vita WiFi 85%, Vita 3G/WiFi 56%

So :
(700 000 * 0.33 * 0.85) + (700 000 * 0.66 * 0.56) = 455 070 FW

Would be huge and pretty healthy.

electroplankton · Dec 18, 2011

Kenka said:
So :
(700 000 * 0.33 * 0.85) + (700 000 * 0.66 * 0.56) = 455 070 FW

Would be huge and pretty healthy.

Roughly 325k if we consider a shipment of 500.000.

Phoenician_Viking · Dec 18, 2011

Kenka said:
So :
(700 000 * 0.33 * 0.85) + (700 000 * 0.66 * 0.56) = 455 070 FW

Would be huge and pretty healthy.

Is it confirmed that Sony shipped twice as much 3G as Wifi?

Mpl90 · Dec 18, 2011

electroplankton said:
Roughly 325k if we consider a shipment of 500.000.

...But however I think the blog was talking about its own sell-through, not the global one. At least, this is what I assume seeing that he gave percentages also for FF and IE...

Spiegel · Dec 18, 2011

Phoenician_Viking said:
Is it confirmed that Sony shipped twice as much as 3G as Wifi?

The shipment wasn't confirmed
The division of units wasn't confirmed
The sellthrough info is from one store clerk blog talking about his/her store

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