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The Wii U Speculation Thread VI: The Undiscovered Country

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I wonder if there is a leak coming before Nintendo Direct
I also wonder how much buzz will Nintendo Direct take away from MS/Sony on monday it seems so cruel but those guys should have some exciting stuff to show so I hope they can still deliver making it an even more epic week
 

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I am starting to feel the hype.
 

japtor

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I think if you go for hit potential in a sales way, NSMBU will be the biggest hit followed by Smash if it is there. I can't really think of anything Retro could do with the sales potential of a new Smash Borthers.

But if you mean hit @ GAF, than Retro should be the biggest game (except a hypthetical 3D Mario)
Sales wise isn't Mario Kart bigger than Smash? (and maybe NSMB?)
 
Gaah this strategy is so brilliant. Nintendo decides E3 is gonna start a day early, theeen it carries through the next day with the Ubi and EA conferences showing Wii U software, then BAM, first party stuff and games in general on Tuesday.

YOU CAN'T BEAT A 100%.
 
Well, one thing we can almost bet on is the mobile app that lets you purchase your Digital software from the eShop. I hope it hits Sunday once the presentation starts up so we can use it to download a surprise title they put up on the eShop during the conference.
 

IdeaMan

My source is my ass!
wasn't there rumors about an app store on WiiU besides the e-shop for games? Couldn't this descriptions be for app developers, who could develop social apps with facebook and twitter support for the WiiU and using Nintendo characters?

I also had the thought about comments from Mario and co to your playstyle and archievments

edit: second time in a row first post of a new page (at leat with 50 posts per page) lol

In either aspect, (one being they use it more with their own system, more akin to helpers with micro transactions and the like, or the other being handled by other developers and more social gaming), the idea is brilliant. Nintendo has reached it's limit on holding back their characters and not adapting them to fit with what sells these days. Games with deep stories and characters. We won't see Mario with some dark back story but I think when moving to HD it's the perfect time to just at least give these characters voices.

On the social front, I think the Wii U pad is great to transition more toward smaller, faster, scale down experiences, which can be purchased cheap and is multi-player focused. Nintendo knows how well Apple is doing..they know how many copies of Angry Birds have been sold and as long as they have those core experiences, (the mario, zelda, mario kart, f-zero etc) there really is little harm in pushing toward the social market while expanding their characters and universe to a larger range of people.

But what do I know right? :)

Interesting takes :) What's also worth to note is that the receivers of those instructions are external, apparently western, companies. As the texts are very detailed, and surely Nintendo will closely monitor their work either if it's for a Wii U application, a social thingy, new marketing/promotional approach on websites by using their characters, communities, whatever, i'm sure Big N will be cautious on a proper use of their cherished proprieties (as i agree with you HylianTom on that).

Besides, i'm not sure if the end result, the product, will be something directly usable on Nintendo platforms (an application developed for Wii U, a social game), or something available on the net (but then accessible via the Wii U browser) like a social network, website, etc. Not sure also if it's an original project, specifically designed for Nintendo (companies contracted by them to develop something), or more like Big N lending their IP to societies, to pimp already existing products, adapt them and make them accessible on Nintendo platforms (think of a twitter for Nintendo, a social media thing for them, a network of gaming websites with discussion boards, reachable on Wii U, etc.).
 
So a pretty good source of mine just told me that you will be able to buy Wii U purchases (up to and including otherwise-retail games) through your phone.

S/he didn't know if it was an app or just online purchases, but suggested that the possibility of pre-loading games is something Nintendo is looking in to.
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
So a pretty good source of mine just told me that you will be able to buy Wii U purchases (up to and including otherwise-retail games) through your phone.

S/he didn't know if it was an app or just online purchases, but suggested that the possibility of pre-loading games is something Nintendo is looking in to.

Cool.
 

antonz

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So a pretty good source of mine just told me that you will be able to buy Wii U purchases (up to and including otherwise-retail games) through your phone.

S/he didn't know if it was an app or just online purchases, but suggested that the possibility of pre-loading games is something Nintendo is looking in to.

That does sound like things I have heard and Nintendo has kinda hinted at as far as a general strategy of buying games via phone for use on 3DS etc
 
Since people were talking about potential Valve support earlier, it's worth mentioning that they quietly dropped cross-platform multiplayer from the PS3 version of Counter Strike: GO earlier this year. Sony still has a lengthy patch approval process that Valve was irritated with. So, it'd be interested if a potential Wii U version would have it. We've heard that the Wii U will be really open when it comes to what third party devs can do, but i'm not sure that Nintendo would be willing to eliminate the patching hurdle due to potential problems that would come from a buggy patch (like save corruption).
 
YES! I speculated this in a previous WUST thread!

GIMME ALL THE FUCKING KUDOS I DESERVE GUYS!!!

Real men don't speculate using the word "unlikely". :p

Nintendo Direct? It would be amazing to have one before E3. I know it's unlikely but it's just that if it were the case it would increase the Hypometer by 1K, without even talking about what it could imply in term of content delivery for E3.
 
So a pretty good source of mine just told me that you will be able to buy Wii U purchases (up to and including otherwise-retail games) through your phone.

S/he didn't know if it was an app or just online purchases, but suggested that the possibility of pre-loading games is something Nintendo is looking in to.
Interesting.
 

DrWong

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as I read that, I totally expect to see an angry birds WiiU edition at the e-shop near launch.

I thought that was all but officially confirmed? Maybe not launch day but soon after if not.
Yep, it's what I remember reading somewhere too...

I also speculated twice in others threads about Nintendo "trolling" social media/ios and so on with dedicated app to expand & seduce/advertise theirs buisness/IP nd attract more users to their systems.

What would be funny to me now as an adult? Nintendo franchises on Android that are but small demos and end everytime with "Like this game? Buy it on Nintendo 3DS".
Yep, it's something I've in mind too: Nintendo trolling them, releasing a free light app/game with a new franchise and once it becomes a hit just release a more ambitious and complete experience of the same franchise on a Nintendo system. Exclusively.

I mean, I'm not completely sold on the demo idea. You don't want someone turning down NSMB because "the controls are bad," when it undoubtedly controls fine on the platform it was intended for.

I'm not shooting down the demo idea either. I just think Nintendo should think outside the box. And yes, still keep their games tied to their platform.
It's why I think if Nintendo choose to go with something like that it's better with a new IP (characters) and an a free light app/game tailored to seduce in a quick yet addictive way. A soft tagged as "the Nintendo thing on smartphones", optimized for the UI, with an appealing universe and characters. And in a second time release a "real" game on one of their system. I see it like a promo campaign but with but part of the budget dedicated to develop the app.

That said, I remember Iwata last year, elaborating on the possibility to use social medias for promotion. So, why not?

It's not really a game, more an interactive advertisement.
This.

If what IdeaMan posted is confirmed I can't wait to see how they'll handle that.
 
Maaaan. I know this is ridiculous, but one of the thing I want is Nintendo showing something that will blow best graphics showcase from this gen...
I mean something that will blow Uncharted or The Last of Us. Something really great.
Just to make those "underpowered/current gen" statements.
 

Zero148

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Well, one thing we can almost bet on is the mobile app that lets you purchase your Digital software from the eShop. I hope it hits Sunday once the presentation starts up so we can use it to download a surprise title they put up on the eShop during the conference.

is such an app announced? I only remember that QR Code thing on an Internet E-Shop to download software on the 3DS.

If Nintendo expands on the Wii Connect 24 feature with the WiiU, how awesome would an app be which allows you to buy a game on your smartphone or tablet with the e-shop app while you are outside and when you come home it is installed on your WiiU


ShockingAlberto said:
So a pretty good source of mine just told me that you will be able to buy Wii U purchases (up to and including otherwise-retail games) through your phone.

S/he didn't know if it was an app or just online purchases, but suggested that the possibility of pre-loading games is something Nintendo is looking in to.

didn't read your post before posting mine :)
 

Linkhero1

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So a pretty good source of mine just told me that you will be able to buy Wii U purchases (up to and including otherwise-retail games) through your phone.

S/he didn't know if it was an app or just online purchases, but suggested that the possibility of pre-loading games is something Nintendo is looking in to.

Sounds good. I like that I can do this with XBL, so it will be neat to have it on a Nintendo console.

Real men don't speculate using the word "unlikely". :p

Ice colddddddddd
 

BY2K

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So a pretty good source of mine just told me that you will be able to buy Wii U purchases (up to and including otherwise-retail games) through your phone.

S/he didn't know if it was an app or just online purchases, but suggested that the possibility of pre-loading games is something Nintendo is looking in to.

Don't play with my heart like that, you jerk!
 

botty

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So a pretty good source of mine just told me that you will be able to buy Wii U purchases (up to and including otherwise-retail games) through your phone.

S/he didn't know if it was an app or just online purchases, but suggested that the possibility of pre-loading games is something Nintendo is looking in to.

My iPhone is ready.
 
So a pretty good source of mine just told me that you will be able to buy Wii U purchases (up to and including otherwise-retail games) through your phone.

S/he didn't know if it was an app or just online purchases, but suggested that the possibility of pre-loading games is something Nintendo is looking in to.

Someday I might own a phone I could do that through.
 

IdeaMan

My source is my ass!
Yep, it's what I remember reading somewhere too...

I also speculated twice in others threads about Nintendo "trolling" social media/ios and so on with dedicated app to expand & seduce/advertise theirs buisness/IP nd attract more users to their systems.





If what IdeaMan posted is confirmed I can't wait to see how they'll handle that.

Yeah, a lot of the info could be cross-checked/cross-read/cross-understood about this social gaming, network, apps, medias push from Nintendo.
 

Luigison

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So a pretty good source of mine just told me that you will be able to buy Wii U purchases (up to and including otherwise-retail games) through your phone.

S/he didn't know if it was an app or just online purchases, but suggested that the possibility of pre-loading games is something Nintendo is looking in to.
I can see this happening as they already have DD sales through sites like Amazon and the Wii has a standby mode that lets it update channels. Putting the two together seem to point towards purchasing DD on other sites with other (mobile) services and having them sent to the Wii U. They could even have a dedicated app for that. I can hear the "Nintendo going 3rd party" jokes already.
 
I am so jelly for 'Assassin's Creed 3: Liberation' now I just need Sony to sell me on Vita so I can play as a girl assassin


So a pretty good source of mine just told me that you will be able to buy Wii U purchases (up to and including otherwise-retail games) through your phone.

S/he didn't know if it was an app or just online purchases, but suggested that the possibility of pre-loading games is something Nintendo is looking in to.

what does pre-loaded games mean?
 
I am so jelly for 'Assassin's Creed 3: Liberation' now I just need Sony to sell me on Vita so I can play as a girl assassin




what does pre-loaded games mean?

Servers for the game go live a day or two before release so people can just grab the authentication key at 12AM midnight the day of release and play the game.

Steam does it with a lot of titles.
 
Man, I'm actually getting excited. I told myself I wouldn't :-/ I'm just gonna end up getting disappointed.

What do you guys want to see there, game-wise? I'm looking forward to seeing something regarding...

-Zelda 3DS
-NSMB2
-Mario Wii U
-Smash Bros Wii U
-New Metroid
 
is such an app announced? I only remember that QR Code thing on an Internet E-Shop to download software on the 3DS.

If Nintendo expands on the Wii Connect 24 feature with the WiiU, how awesome would an app be which allows you to buy a game on your smartphone or tablet with the e-shop app while you are outside and when you come home it is installed on your WiiU

They had some heavy words pointing in that direction, so it's pretty likely we will see it...though I may have just misinterpreted the QR Code talk as such. I was under the impression it would do just what you said...buy the title from your computer or phone, and it downloads automatically so long as your 3DS is in sleep mode(or not I suppose). I can't remember where all of this was said though. I'm sure someone will clear it up.
 
Yeah... I mean no, I was cautious :]

Booo. Now this is speculation.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=29416808&postcount=2659

So how do I see it? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Nintendo has found a way to mimic (that means including Gold) Xbox Live without charging a fee to the gamer.

Other gamer benefits would be the following:

  • Will have one account access to everything.
  • Will have the features that gamers may want like friends lists, achievements, rankings, matchmaking, etc.
  • Because of the references to controller abilities both in the quotes and from E3, I can see video chat being a part of, but not limited to scheduling matches. I can also see in-game video chat being a possibility. It may even be possible to do cross game video chat. That would be a feature I believe nobody else has and could be a selling point. There may be an ability based on what Miyamoto said to switch the view to watch what a friend of yours is playing.
  • Facebook, Twitter, etc. accessibility (or integration) tied in to accounts.


For the developer I see:

When looking at comments from Iwata, Reggie and Scibetta I see Nintendo creating a system that will try to give developers what they want. If there are features they don't want to use they will not have to use them which might be better for smaller developers who may only want to use a few things, yet the features will still be available (a la carte so to speak). I'm going to also include dedicated servers in this. If the requests of the developer is greater than what Nintendo's platform can provide, then they are free to use their own network that will still tie into the single account. I believe Nintendo will want their platform to be the “default” platform, but will not make a fuss if they can't meet the needs of the larger developers/publishers or they just prefer to stick with their own.

I saw this was getting long (and I could have made it longer) so I won't go further in this post, but this is what I see so far based on the information given.

And I'm still expecting it to happen.

*pats self on the back like Barry Horowitz*
 

Zero148

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Man, I'm actually getting excited. I told myself I wouldn't :-/ I'm just gonna end up getting disappointed.

What do you guys want to see there, game-wise? I'm looking forward to seeing something regarding...

I'm really excited for Pikmin 3 (which I believe will be also a graphical Showcase) and LCS.
Furthermore for the new Retro and Monolith Games for WiiU and 3DS (if Monolith games are there).

otherwise I'm looking forward to nice surprises (Star Fox for example).


HylianTom said:
Ehh.. I'm going to go with physical media for as long as I possibly can, so this really won't affect me all that much.

What about digital only releases like Pushmo?
 
Man, I'm actually getting excited. I told myself I wouldn't :-/ I'm just gonna end up getting disappointed.

What do you guys want to see there, game-wise? I'm looking forward to seeing something regarding...

-Zelda 3DS
-NSMB2
-Mario Wii U
-Smash Bros Wii U
-New Metroid

Yeah, we're definitely overdue for a new handheld Zelda
 
Servers for the game go live a day or two before release so people can just grab the authentication key at 12AM midnight the day of release and play the game.

Steam does it with a lot of titles.

Is there any indication from any source that Nintendo might "push" downloads to "always on" consoles, so that if you buy via phone or via DD at the retail store, it'll be playable as soon as you get home?
 

Linkhero1

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Ahh - true!

The good thing about those is that I won't be as uber-hyped about 'em to the point where I'll be antsy about buying them via iPhone, hehe..

True. They might even allow you to pre-purchase games through an internet browser, so you can do it while at work :p

Xbox Live has cross game chat, IIRC.

They have cross everything chat, but you're right. It's already on the 360.
 

ElRenoRaven

Member
Man, I'm actually getting excited. I told myself I wouldn't :-/ I'm just gonna end up getting disappointed.

What do you guys want to see there, game-wise? I'm looking forward to seeing something regarding...

-Zelda 3DS
-NSMB2
-Mario Wii U
-Smash Bros Wii U
-New Metroid

For me NSMB 2
Mario Wii U
Smash Bros WII U
Mario Kart WII U
New Metroid
Luigi's Mansion WII U (Won't happen since 2 is on 3DS but I can dream.)
Everything third party.
 

Kjellson

Member
Man, I'm actually getting excited. I told myself I wouldn't :-/ I'm just gonna end up getting disappointed.

What do you guys want to see there, game-wise? I'm looking forward to seeing something regarding...

-Zelda 3DS
-NSMB2
-Mario Wii U
-Smash Bros Wii U
-New Metroid
I'm really curious in the game Shikamaru Ninja was talking about.
 
S/he didn't know if it was an app or just online purchases, but suggested that the possibility of pre-loading games is something Nintendo is looking in to.
I want Nintendo to go all the way with this - I want to go online this Friday and buy all my launch Wii-U games, so they will be preloaded on my Wii-U when it arrives on launch day.
 
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