Cloudius12
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Dark Souls II 12 minute gameplay video up [Update: 10 Minute Q&A Video]
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Ingueferroque
Banned
I'm a bit sad that the game looks nothing like the CG shown so far, as previously hinted by Edge. But I guess we knew that since it was rumored to not be a next-gen game.
Baka gaijin asked for PC version. I hope you like your baby version for babies that play baby games! Enjoy being coddled like the pathetic child baby that cries for baby things.
Giant Castle in the middle gives a castlevania feel to it.
Level design looks to be on par with other soul games, graphics has improved immensely, love the draw distance.
Animations seems to be improved
new enemy reactions/smarter AI is a natural direction the game is taking
not liking the instant kills (headshot axe) but that is slow enough for anyone to react.
The player character can roll and move pretty fast even with the armor, the stats are probably not tweak yet.
Moving and Shooting can potentially be cheap/broken in PvP, hopefully they can address in the final product.
They didnt show the black phantom and co op system, that's too bad.
didn't show any backstab or ripostes
Level design looks to be on par with other soul games, graphics has improved immensely, love the draw distance.
Animations seems to be improved
new enemy reactions/smarter AI is a natural direction the game is taking
not liking the instant kills (headshot axe) but that is slow enough for anyone to react.
The player character can roll and move pretty fast even with the armor, the stats are probably not tweak yet.
Moving and Shooting can potentially be cheap/broken in PvP, hopefully they can address in the final product.
They didnt show the black phantom and co op system, that's too bad.
didn't show any backstab or ripostes
Haunted
Member
Just because I think it's cool how well they translated these into the game:
Double Helix staircase in Anor Londo:
(Chateau de Chambord, Chambord)
Anor Londo church design:
(Duomo, Milan)
Their design inspiration for the Dark Souls human-architecture ranged from the Middle Ages to Gothic to Renaissance architecture, and they've done a tremendous job translating those very faithfully.
dat clippingThe axe was not blocked or dodged. There are very similar "insta-death" occurences exactly like this in Dark Souls and Demon Souls. More specifically, if the player gets careless, like this guy did, and just begins swinging his sword around at absolutely nothing like a complete moron...
So really, do not worry about this at all.
And don't give me the "it's early" spiel. I know it is, but their engine just doesn't handle collision detection with angled surfaces well at all. Not in Demon's, not in Dark, and it doesn't look like it will here. C'mon From, step up your game.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I know about the heavy European influence of the early games, it's just that this seems more... European, which is not a helpful description for anyone.
Let's have a banned gif for the guy getting an axe in the dome.
Portugeezer
Gold Member
Could be the video, no way to tell I guess. But console is probably the main platform, it's also an unfinished product.
You can survive that though from what I remember, you just need enough health (but not knowing you need full health at that moment is what probably kills people the most).
Anyway, I don't mind those moments too much if they're easy to access again and I don't have to risk losing all my souls trying to get back there. I don't even have the game and I'm wondering already what they will have us do to get past the bridge.
MoonLightWave
Member
Character seems to float abit to much above ground atm, imo. Will probably be fixed, though.
It brings tears to my eyes just thinking about it!
Cloudius12
Member
Youtube mirror dead
ripastraea
Member
It's gross, I hate it
jacksepticeye
Member
What? he got insta killed because he fucked up. He miss hit the thrown axe completely
DarkSoul520
Member
I'm not worried about this game's direction at all anymore.
Really digging some of the new effects. The blood sprays, healing effect, fog wall, fire embers in the air, etc. all look great and are a nice step up from the original.
Really digging some of the new effects. The blood sprays, healing effect, fog wall, fire embers in the air, etc. all look great and are a nice step up from the original.
Does any engine, really? It's not like you can really prevent it apart from using pure physics (and thus ragdolls) or putting in an entire animation system that makes characters carefully hold things away from surfaces like walls or floors. The latter gives us wonderful things like Nathan Drake leaning over and brushing his hand across every random object he gets close enough to.
It's 30FPS video, being played back about 10% faster due to the way GIFs work.
Big guys usually disappear like the fat guys in blight town. The dog was still there.
Also a correction the health bar was fine I was just watching a small video so I couldn't see it properly.
Haunted
Member
Get some SSAO in there, stat! Enabling it in DSFix made a big difference for Dark Souls, imo.
I assume that's because it's sped up. Definitely faster/smoother than it was in the video.
edit: beaten by Orayn
There has to be a way to prevent clipping of that magnitude in a modern, high profile video game in 2013, surely. The whole axe and his upper body are flat out vanishing into the world geometry.
Same sort of blocking path death happens when you try to go to Four Kings without having the right ring. Or how about getting killed the first time you encounter a Mimic? That's why the game has the Orange Soapstone.
the_prime_mover
Member
Looks good. Aesthetic is still very much Dark/Demon's Souls and I am happy to see so many Wyvern and Dragons. It does seem like you have access to a lot more weapons which I don't know if I really like - especially for the sake of invasions. It is bad enough dealing with two weapons but being able to quick switch between two and a bow might make things very nasty when lag is involved.
I haven't played Demon's Souls in a while, but I think that using Herbs is quite quick. Unfortunately I thought that the Estus Flask was a lot better as it made things much more tense and made duels nerve wracking. The heal stones look to be about as cumbersome as using humanity to heal which may drag out matches if you can carry a lot of them.
I am a bit disappointed in this initial reveal. I would have preferred they show off some insane and scary looking bosses rather than talk about reactive gameplay as though the AI in Dark Souls wasn't already aggressive.
I really hope that they bring back some form of world tendency and many more NPC Dark/Light Phantoms - this is the one area where Demon's Souls is significantly better than Dark Souls (in my opinion). Ok, I also hope to see more boss fights like Artorias and Kalameet (and Flamelurker!).
I haven't played Demon's Souls in a while, but I think that using Herbs is quite quick. Unfortunately I thought that the Estus Flask was a lot better as it made things much more tense and made duels nerve wracking. The heal stones look to be about as cumbersome as using humanity to heal which may drag out matches if you can carry a lot of them.
I am a bit disappointed in this initial reveal. I would have preferred they show off some insane and scary looking bosses rather than talk about reactive gameplay as though the AI in Dark Souls wasn't already aggressive.
I really hope that they bring back some form of world tendency and many more NPC Dark/Light Phantoms - this is the one area where Demon's Souls is significantly better than Dark Souls (in my opinion). Ok, I also hope to see more boss fights like Artorias and Kalameet (and Flamelurker!).
did I say 60? I meant 33 of course
Dual wielding final viable.. thank you basegod.
abstract alien
Member
This is actually probably true. I didn't play much of Demon, so Dark Souls was my first real jump into the series.
I had to take off all of my armor and just mad dash. Of course, that was after the fact lol
I thought it looked similar too.
the_prime_mover
Member
However - facing off against the Titanite Demons at the bottom of Sen's Fortress was insanely frustrating because they could easily clip through walls, reaching you when you had nowhere to dodge to (and those two were more powerful than all the rest so one hit could wipe out all of your stamina and much of your health).
Very pretty dynamic lighting.
There's no silver bullet. Either you make the dead player a ragdoll, or you implement a pretty serious animation blending that has to be able to accommodate the dimensions of every possible thing that could be attached to or sticking out of a character's model.
There's no silver bullet. Either you make the dead player a ragdoll, or you implement a pretty serious animation blending that has to be able to accommodate the dimensions of every possible thing that could be attached to or sticking out of a character's model.
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
Very sweet looking, can't wait!!
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
You get no numbers for better immersion and increased difficulty.
commanderpepper
Member
It's an early build, it is weird to see no numbers.
You can avoid Seath the first time you meet him,you can go out the doorway even though it's fogged up.Most people don't bring a sacrifice ring so they probably lose everything.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
I had to read a guide to know that I couldn't actually kill him in that area. Pretty fucking dumb on the game's part.
CornBurrito
Member
Very pretty dynamic lighting.
There's no silver bullet. Either you make the dead player a ragdoll, or you implement a pretty serious animation blending that has to be able to accommodate the dimensions of every possible thing that could be attached to or sticking out of a character's model.
That walking animation is.. fabulous?
Also i'm all for ragdoll once you're dead.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Once you reduce the size to 50% on the PC you can't go back to gigantic HUD elements.
Jesus, is IGN's server slow or what... have a damn youtube alternative instead of making me slowly buffer this shit..... sick of IGN's outdated media player.
EDIT: Found an alt Youtube link that hasn't been taken down yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMU5DBsrpe4
EDIT: Found an alt Youtube link that hasn't been taken down yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMU5DBsrpe4
jacksepticeye
Member
I think it IS the painted world
It's to stop people downloading it for free and subscribing to IGN prime to download
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
2 deaths within 6 minutes
Dark Souls 2 is definitely not getting dumbed down guys.
SOO AMPED!
Some of the best creature designs of all time. That city of dragons and hippopotamus cyclops.
Just amazing creativity.
Dark Souls 2 is definitely not getting dumbed down guys.
SOO AMPED!
Some of the best creature designs of all time. That city of dragons and hippopotamus cyclops.
Just amazing creativity.
CornBurrito
Member
Guess it is good I never used that mod. Or did they automatically reduce it for the PC version?
I just hope it doesn't become dumb in the other direction. The only unfair deaths I've had thus far in Dark Souls were at the Capra Demon (died before I could even blink), the bridge dragon (walking and suddenly lit on fire!), and -maybe- Ornstein and Smough though to be fair I wasn't patient.
Every other death has been caused by me rushing and failing to be patient. I hope they don't put in deaths that can only be avoided by being psychic or having gone through the game once before. I want my deaths to come only from my own mistakes.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
First thing I was thinking too.
"Big slow guy? Well Ill just keep strafing till he attacks and then stab him in the AHH!!"
Ya that was cool. Game looks like it'll be great. Will buy on Steam for full price.
Boss Man
Member
Mimics are not insta-kills, and falling off of those stairs is an assumed instant death in the first place. It's an exception that you can survive with the ring.
semiconscious
Gold Member
same. reminded me of the first area of dark souls, which maybe is what this mostly was - the intro area...
jacksepticeye
Member
Man stop making up crap to fit your argument. The deaths in the video for DS 2 were perfectly avoidable and stuff was changed around for the presentation too. Sometimes he took fuck all damage and other times he was one shotted.
Boss Man
Member
Yeah, Seath was an actual example of this. But it's also required and part of the path, so while it's dumb at least it's part of the progression. If that bridge has to collapse to progress the game, then that's dumb but not any worse than Seath. If it doesn't, then that doesn't seem 'fair', which is what makes the difficulty of the Souls games so enjoyable.
I don't agree with an automatic one-hit kill like that, even if it is avoidable. I guess that's arguable though.
What isn't is that the player walked out onto a bridge and it triggered a scripted event that collapsed it and killed the player.
Notice I'm not arguing about the almost unavoidable chariot death that would surely terrify and then piss me off the first time I encountered it. There's a difference between these things. The chariot was fucking awesome and I would love to be pissed at that.