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New DriveClub video shows day/night transition
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ChronotriggerJM
Member
The thing that strikes me as weird is that they keep mentioning it. I'm really thinking they're hanging around a stable 45-50 FPS and just considering the options, maybe seeing if the engine team can make additional headway. If they were only capable of 30FPS at this point, they wouldn't even leave it on the table. This game is rendering at a much higher framerate than the videos would have us believe.
Wishmaster92
Member
Thanks, i forgot about that. He mentions "Custom built Photometric apparatus".
Red Chocobo
Banned
You can almost hear Digital Foundry licking their lips at the number of page hits they are going to get in a few months.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
Quick question for someone of the more technical mind, it seems to be that with Evo's lighting engine, they're now at the mercy of it (for better or for worse, judging by the screens I'd say definitely better), but because it's not pre-baked, they can't really tweak the level of detail right? I really just can't get over how nice they've managed to execute it. I never played GT5 so this is actually the first time I'm seeing something so robust.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Exacly, we've seen nothing yet. They wouldn't put that much effort into detail if they were not going to offer us fantastic car models both in game and in the garage (or however they're going to present them)
This is how I feel as well.
To me F5 feels like it's been rushed and not making full use of the system , because that ^ is clearly apparent, therefore the games aren't even comparable as DC is clearly the winner in technical terms. There is no point in fighting over this.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Real time lighting shouldn't effect any assets they put in the game, including car builds.
This thread is silly, and just reminds me again why devs hate releasing early footage. Every generation, it's the same nonsense. People jump all over every little nitpick in a beta product. Well, duh. It's in beta, you ninny. It's gonna have warts. Then someone posts a comparison gif, which is fine by itself, but try extrapolating all sorts of stuff from those gifs. "This car model is better." "This one has jaggies." "The trees are more detailed." Really? Have we learned nothing over the last umpteen years of this same, stupid bickering? SMH. I'm glad I've stopped following the console wars. I'll get a PS4 sometime next year. The games will look great, just like the ones on the Xbone. That's all that matters. PEACE.
And vice-versa..
DC is looking good,I like Forza Horizon way more then I thought I would, so it's day one for me..
I will say that all this pathetic graphic whoring saddens me, how can people say they are serious about driving games when it's all about comparing screen shots and bitching over lighting..
What about the actual game mechanics?? FH was just too shallow, too short, and too linear, but not a bad attempt, I hope evolution put a little more depth into the game, that is way more important that if they've used enough SSAO or something else that causes the framerate to be impacted..
ChronotriggerJM
Member
On that front I'm very happy with the direction Evolution is moving in. I've rarely ever gotten to actually be in races with my friends. Scheduling is just too damn hard. I like the they're fragmenting the challenges the way that they are, I'm pretty sure this isn't the first racing game to do it (I couldn't tell you any others personally), but this is a lot of fun to me. I do like how in all of these videos, the drifts scores are pathetic lol.
HueyFreeman
Banned
This. Im actually surprised its being tolerated around here, it certainly wasn't with GT5 vs forza
Jamesways
Member
Well as they are not out yet so what you expect them all to do?
ChronotriggerJM
Member
Uh yeah, I'm pretty sure the Cruisin USA thread is that way ;/ double tap that gas SON.
Ether_Snake
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The game needs better automatic exposure.
Jamesways
Member
Did you just really compare the physics of SimBin's Race Pro to Cruisin USA? What?!?
Ever play a SimBin game? It'll never win any beauty awards on console, but the physics were excellent. Shame we'll never get another SimBin title on console. Race Room Evolution would have been great on console. And the Race series has one of the best track lists out there.
Off topic aside, I'm really looking forward to both games. Both Fm5 and DC look fantastic! If this is a taste of the power of what next gen can bring, either console should produce some excellent racing titles, be it arcade or sim.
Perhaps they could go back to proper motorstorm games, racing on rock, mud, jungle, fire and ice. Not assploding skyscrapers and earthquakes - just too fake and xtreeem for me. Very pretty though
ChronotriggerJM
Member
As much as I loved MS apocalypse, I definitely ended up longing for the gritty experience. The way your vehicle would get bogged down by various terrain was exhilarating. I'm definitely hoping they decide to make a return at some point, but at the same time, I'm glad evolution gets to take a shot at what I would consider a very stagnant genre. I'm hoping they really bring some fresh perspective to this type of game.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
It's preposterous to compare a racing simulation title such as Forza5 to a pure fun racing game such as DriveClub! Almost every single racing game in current gen has been 30fps and they have all provided hours and even days together of fun gameplay, titles like Need for Speed Hot Pursuit2010, Need for Speed Most Wanted2012 etc., There is absolutely no reason why you wouldn't enjoy DriveClub if you have enjoyed previous 30fps racing games!
ethomaz
Banned
Wait... are you comparing DC and Forza with GT5? Please, no... focus on the main subject of the thread: DriveClub.
I'll try to answer what I can...
The PS+ voucher code will be included in the box (and is also provided with the digital version from the PS Store).
We'll try to continue to put or more content like this
Well spotted. You'd be surprised just how useful they are too!
The game is called DRIVECLUB - the # is selectively used for marketing.
We will try to support whatever wheels we can providing they're compatible with the PS4.
I think all that Jamie is trying to say is that we're aware of the issues and we are going continue to make improvements.
The game runs at a native resolution of 1920x1080 (and the videos ran at 2K as it helps with the Youtube compression).
We've got point to point tracks that stretch for miles.
You can set the rate of change to 1x which means the change of time of day is in real time.
Ghosts cars are either your, or another persons best time being played back on the course for you to try and beat. Ghosts can be adjusted by yourself, so you can turn them off if you so desire.
12 cars on track in head to head competitive racing. Expect to see some action soon.
I think its fun
We're planning to support DRIVECLUB and continue to make improvements for as long as we can.
DRIVECLUB is not a simulation racer. Sure it's grounded in reality, but the focus is most certainly on fun
Keep dreaming.
HORRORSHØW
Member
Thanks for all the responses Rushy.
Game's coming along nicely. Can't wait to see the head to head vids.
Game's coming along nicely. Can't wait to see the head to head vids.
Red Chocobo
Banned
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Race Pro, right?
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
Nope
From the Feb reveal video:
Track sections:
A: 2.3 mile
B: 8.4 mile - Height Change: 557M, Average Width: 11.9M, Maximum Width: 17.4M, Minimum Width: 7.9M
C:
D:
I seriously hope the C and D sections are 30-50 miles long.
Are the As the circuits? 2.3 mile is poor for a point to point track.
perineumlick
Member
If you're trying to reference my post, well you're just gonna have to deal with it. I'm totally comparing the look between the two gifs posted, and I'm not trolling either game; some of you are getting too damn sensitive about this shit. Biased my ass; have fun checking my post history, if you haven't already.
I'm finished with the graphical and technical debates on here; too much immature stuff going on. When the games come out, and people are actually having fun, maybe this craziness will subside a little.
DomeSplitter
Banned
This does not look better than Forza, not even at 30fps.
Opinions are great, but frame rate has nothing to do with the image quality...
Mr. PlayStation
Member
Keep dreaming!
No performance customizations/modifications. But aesthetic ones are in (no idea how deep, there is a livery editor of sorts I believe).
Metalmurphy
Member
Nope, pretty good one though.
DomeSplitter
Banned
Forza has always prioritised frame rate before "image quality". When I'm racing I have my eyes on the road and opponents. Not trees.
Metalmurphy
Member
Different game types different priorities. Think Schindler's list vs a Michael bay movie.
No one goes see a Michael Bay movie if it's in Black & White and has no explosions.
cool story.
BleachAndPepsi
Banned
There it is: Proof that opinions can be wrong.
Jamesways
Member
No game can ever be as good as Forza, ever. No matter the system, no matter if sim or arcade, forza fans MUST make it known that NO GAME will ever be as good as Forza in any aspect. It's the best sim, nay, racing game- on PC or console- ever made by man.
No one is allowed to like/enjoy multiple racing games, even on the same system.
All is FORZA and FORZA is all.
Edit- love racing games. The more the merrier. The genre isn't huge on console, so more options, the better.
TheRealTalker
Banned
I made a forza gif if anyone wants to compare. Surprisingly Fallons footage is the only direct feed outside chase cam i could find lol.
if only we could get a more higher quality forza direct feed (suffering from heavy compression)
is some from top 10 her on GAF?
blurredvision
Member
I only mentioned the car model when referring to GT5. Everything else is an obvious improvement, even if it is incredibly bland.