BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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Forgot about CC, Genesis sucked though. I didn't like him at all.
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Kazushige Nojima (scenario writer) wants Final Fantasy X-3 to happen
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Forgot about CC, Genesis sucked though. I didn't like him at all.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
yup
MagnaderAlpha
Member
That's actually the good thing about NEW installments. You can start fresh. Sure, you can start fresh and fuck it up(FFXIII's ending, among other things), but you at least have the opportunity to do something new without the baggage of an already established world full of already established(and fan favorite) characters. Once you go back and say, "Yeah, it wasn't happily ever after! The characters you love and know weren't able to live happy, fulfilling lives! More shit happened, and villains from the past came back *cough*Sephiroth*cough*Sin*cough*, so.... HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!", it kinda shits on the finality you felt these characters deserved. Especially in the FF series, where change is supposed to be a big theme, is hailed by the fans of the series as a golden rule, but some fans and Square Enix themselves CAN'T FUCKIN GET PAST fuckin with old stories and world and just move on towards the light of TRUE progression, no direct sequels or continuities of past games, just a continuation of the FF series by creating new worlds, new characters and new ideas.
I really think the whole "change" mumbo jumbo's just PR rhetoric bullshit, used to make things sound good and progressive, but it's clear who just can't get over the past.
Crisis Core was the ultimate padded out adventure, taking a straight forward event from FFVII's past and padding the hell out of it with new concepts and fluff. It would be like making a prequel of Jecht/Braska/Auron's quest, then saying, somehow they were abducted by alien people and taken to a strange planet where they had to help the people conquer a dark evil(go on a new, strange adventure, meeting strange new people), then eventually are sent back to Spira only to finish their pilgrimage to result in what we already know happens. I don't have the stomach for that kinda of filler. Sure, Crisis Core WAS the best game out of the compilation(best written, at least), but it still doesn't make it any less pointless.
Why is it good?
You're always the first to act like everyone is overreacting. Why don't you defend your position for a change? Why should we think positive here?
Dont even go there, Its impossible.
Shinta is a true believer of Church of Toriyama & Kitase.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Please for the love of god tell me those "spoilers" are fake. PLEASE.
That is the worst direction it could possibly take ):
Well, I guess Toriyama will still keep busy...
That is the worst direction it could possibly take ):
Well, I guess Toriyama will still keep busy...
100% real.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpWZ4bli70Q
Full audio drama.
Incomplete summary from the uploader:
Full audio drama.
Incomplete summary from the uploader:
ReikiKirei (uploader) said:
Black Door
Banned
You mean you didn't like hearing about THE GODDESS?
He had a nice sword though, wish I could find a rl plastic replica
The only part of CC's expanded part I don't really like is how
the plot makes Zack out to be some kind of demigod, whereas in the original game he was just a nice guy who had history with the party's females. Having him kill helicopters and Metal Gears at the end ruins the sublety of his death in FFVII where this "awesome badass SOLDIER" gets cut down by two MPs, the same grunts you are destroying in one hit at the beginning of the game.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Kagari, why must you try to make me as jaded as you? T_T
So basically, thanks to this new info, the ending of FFX....
means absolutely nothing? Great.
What? Who the fuck is the writer?
I don't even.... I can't....This company....
Im losing my hopes for FFXV.
Black Door
Banned
They have different writing teams for different projects. Not a good idea to stick with concrete judgments like that.
On one hand, I am surprised that they squarely took on the one problem with this
Auron's daughter
On the other hand, oh boy does this all sound like a headache waiting to happen.
The established lore is going to be irreparably fucked, but yes, I respect that they (well, Nojima) respect Auron's established characterization.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Completely different writing team, but this doesn't inspire confidence in SE's upper management, that they'd let this ACTUAL j-drama go out the door, wearing the FF name.
I have barely even heard a thing about this game, so I'm not arguing it's amazing, or horrible. We barely even know anything.
But typically, having more family allows more opportunities to expand the character. Auron was always a father figure for the whole game already, so it fits pretty well.
And in my mind, a new character is always a plus. Auron is one of the cooler characters too, so the idea of a female character similar to him sounds pretty awesome to me.
I don't see a single downside.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
The ONLY good parts of CC, IMO, was that related to the event it was based on(namely the stuff with Zack and Aerith, and Cloud). Still, everything else.... urgh!
Wait, so they are retconning FFX-2, or somehow, Yuna just "grew out of it"? LOL!!!
Didn't they say Nojima wrote the "new" stuff?
Kazushige Nojima is and has always been the lead writer on XV. He wrote X, X-2, X-2.5, and it stands to strong reason he'll write X-3. Not sure where this "completely different writing team" stuff is coming from. You have the same guy setting the tone and making the big plot decisions for both projects.
Have you ever met a teenager before?
MagnaderAlpha
Member
I AM pretty sure Nojima DID write this new stuff. Didn't all the gaming sites make it a big deal that Nojima was contracted for additional scenario stuff for this(FFX/FFX-2 HD)? I'm pretty sure I at least saw a story at Siliconera months back.
Risk Breaker
Member
Even after all the bullshit toriyama has pulled off, which never ceases to amaze, I still can't believe what I've read in this thread.
SE stahp.
SE stahp.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
Teens change all the time. Rarely do they start off one way, change personality and then revert to who they initially were. Usually adolescent change results in growing/maturing into an adult. Though, a part of me would love to think her waking up from the bad dream that was FFX-2 was literal, as in it NEVER HAPPENED! Of course, that's wishful thinking(considering they HD-ed it).
Nojima wrote this new material, yes.
rocketskates
Member
Holy crap you couldn't be more spot on about that art. The long hair DOES look like them.
All I hope is for this game to connect the links between this and VII.
Well maybe it's just me, but I've literally known a ton of people who did exactly that. They kind of rebel and change as teens, then turn out more similar to how their parents were. It's pretty common. Honestly, I did almost the exact same thing.
Oh, so they have a realistic approach?
My bad, sorry for misunderstanding their intentions. Go forth SE, you can't do no wrong.
One of these days one of your posts might actually have a complete idea, and your rationale for it. I have faith it'll happen one of these days.
The "other FF game"? Don't tell me you knew about this "other" game, too. It's a little hard to believe considering how off-the-wall this is.
Man are they milking themselves dry.
Of course not. How do you read that from my comment? Is it the part where I'm astounded that FFX-3 is possibly in the works, or is it just your lack of reading comprehension?
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
badcrumble
Member
I hope this is what Toriyama's working on instead of another mainline FF.
My bad, I meant the mere existence of another FF game besides XV, XVI, and the supposed VII remake. I'm just saying knowing about another FF game would just make me lose hope. I just have no idea how they expect to do this much with a brand in such a short time.
I rather stay this way than follow your lead.
badcrumble
Member
I'm also at the point where I want to see an FFVII remake happen, but mostly so that people will fucking stop asking for it. On the other hand, that might get people to start asking for Agni's Philosophy to get turned into a game, and not only would it probably make a terrible game, it's so obviously something whose genesis was essentially "holy fuck if we make a tech demo based off of an existing FF game everyone will think we're going to remake it! let's never, ever do that again!" and *still* the same assumptions happen. Still waiting for that FF8 remake on PS2 based on the dance scene tech demo, people.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
That's kinda still a progressive change. Rarely do kids start off a certain way then go back to that way after they've got past their rebellious and angst ridden years. Usually, you never go back to what you originally were, but become someone entirely different(with years of experience and the wisdom's that come with age). Hell, turnning out more similar to how your parents were IS a change from who you initially were. Rarely do kids/teens start off like that. Even if Yuna has grow out of her wild streak, I doubt she'd revert to her FFX self. Realistically speaking, she would've grown into someone new, and have taken her wild experiences into account, being more wise to the world, and more mature in the process. Though, playing devil's advocate(muahaha), the description was vague. Maybe she DID mature into something new.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
So after XIII we get two XIII sequels, another MMO, a XIII spinoff rebranded as a main title, a X sequel, and a remake that is retroactively made into a X sequel.
It's like throwing trash into garbage bin into landfill.
I knew of three. XV, another one which had a concept demo showcasing summons and traversal involving them and what I initially called FFXVI but now refer to as just another FF, and finally FF7. The middle one is what I assumed to be FFXVI or the next FF project beyond XV. This one comes out of nowhere. These spoilers are very detailed though. I'm hoping this is mobile, because if it's not, that means there is no FFXVI at the moment. There's no way SE can be doing this many big FF projects.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
Traversal revolving summons? Like FFXIII-styled transformer summons, or, like, REAL ones(non-robotic ones)? LOL! That sounds interesting....
Toriyama is probably responsible for the shitty stuff in this, like say he has all these
Auron's daughter, Sin is back, Tidus-Yuna-some third wheel Jdrama BS
Sin who could even come back for some stupid as hell reasons.
That is, FFXV doesn't have the backage of an already established world and a history of events like the destruction of Sin NOT TO EVEN MENTION that, more importantly, the setting and basic premise itself seems to make a lot more sense (it's a world of nations at war, politics & scheming instead of giant monsters who are actually fathers of the main characters and whatnot).
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Funnily enough, Chuami's English voice actor is Eden Riegel, who starred in "All My Children" and "The Young and the Restless".
That's exactly what I'm thinking. There are optimists who think that SE can right the ship after their mishaps the previous generation. Well, considering how much game AAA game development costs and expectations are exponentially rising for decades, I'm not exactly confident in them. FFVII is probably as large in ambition as XV, and that will for sure take forever to develop. Oh, they actually have KH3 to worry about which will also drain resources (I know it's the Osaka team, but Nomura is still co-directing the game). Oh, and didn't Nomura mention that sequels to XV might occur? Now this...
XVI probably won't happen this generation thinking about it.