CountAntonius
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The God who Peter Molyneux forgot - Curiosity winner Bryan Henderson
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Bubbavelli
Banned
Peter Molyneux was definitely the kid who had an uncle that worked at nintendo
OrlanisWorks
Banned
I wish too.
Molyneux should have a PR guy who just says, "Shut the fuck up, Pete. Just shut your fucking mouth before it writes a check the team can't cash." He builds a promise bubble and it always bursts because he can't fucking shut his mouth.
I think It should be the other way around, Molyneux should be the PR for projects with better baseline ideas and someone else incharge for the execution of these projects.
Because I still think (from what I can see from my limited perspective) that Molyneux has shortcomings to bridge ideas with executing, if someone else is already incharge of execution then I think Molyneux will do a great job at what he does; Capturing the audience about an idea, even thou he has not executed_and_delivered his claims for some time now.
The guy was pretty indifferent to this from the start.
GeordieMark
Member
The article says the guy signed a contract. It says in the article that the wording was such that there was no timescale for receiving any payment. He couldn't sue.
I don't have a ounce of respect left for the man, I hope someday he gets sued into nothingness. I could care less if he helped making Populous and Dungeon Keeper, it's been 20 freaking years: creating some good stuff doesn't mean you can spend the following 20 years being a living bag of lies.
It goes well beyond an overactive imagination and enthusiasm. Watch the Milo video linked earlier, and then Peters defense of why it was never released. He lies. He's not struggling with achieving some grand vision, he flat out lies.
The entire thing was a lie. The guy started his career by lying, built a career on lying, and now is getting caught out thanks to the Internet.
I think what people forget is that he *always* did this. After Populous, Bullfrog released Powermonger, a game I utterly adored but one that was full of the typical Molnyeux hype and fabrications - villagers would have relationships with each other, would care about your actions, the enemy AI would learn from you, etc etc. None of it true. That was the first time I saw him do his classic lie and pivot tale, where he then slammed Powermonger after release and promised the next big thing would learn from its mistakes. Dungeon Keeper was another example - whilst it's fondly remember as a great game, it was *nothing* like it had been advertised and talked up by Molnyeux beforehand. He promised a reverse Dungeon Master, where you carefully designed traps and tricks like old school dungeon crawlers. With (as always) AI that learnt your traps and worked together. The end game was fantastic fun, but didn't get anywhere near achieving that.
The only thing that has changed about him is that he used to have amazing team at Bullfrog who were capable of salvaging fantastic games from the pot pouri of his lies and fabrications. Now his lies have grown bigger, expectations larger and the teams around him smaller and less capable. I would bet vast amounts of money that it wasn't him behind those earlier Classic games, it was the teams at Bullfrog that made it happen whilst he fronted it.
Peter Molyneux is a lying con-artist, and now a thief as well.
This saddens me.
I grew up playing Bullfrog games, I idolized the man when I was 16, the story of how he blagged his way into being an Amiga developer seemed cool at the time, when his content was good. He had big ideas and seemed to be able to execute.
Fable happened, ok, went a bit OTT there but the game was still good.
Over the years, I grew to ignore almost everything he said but I still felt he got too much hate, he was just over enthusiastic!
Now that view is replaced with "he is a fucking con-man".
Moving to the mobile / crowd funding space is just an easier way for him to fuck people over for cash without any comebacks. Anyone backing anything he does from here on in is an idiot, I hope he has to come begging back to KS soon so people can tell him to fuck off.
He has become the new Tim Langdell at this point.
Edit:
There is truth to this, in an EDGE interview in the late 90's with Bullfrog they spoke to his team, who seemed to be the ones actually conceiving ideas like Syndicate etc...
I grew up playing Bullfrog games, I idolized the man when I was 16, the story of how he blagged his way into being an Amiga developer seemed cool at the time, when his content was good. He had big ideas and seemed to be able to execute.
Fable happened, ok, went a bit OTT there but the game was still good.
Over the years, I grew to ignore almost everything he said but I still felt he got too much hate, he was just over enthusiastic!
Now that view is replaced with "he is a fucking con-man".
Moving to the mobile / crowd funding space is just an easier way for him to fuck people over for cash without any comebacks. Anyone backing anything he does from here on in is an idiot, I hope he has to come begging back to KS soon so people can tell him to fuck off.
He has become the new Tim Langdell at this point.
Edit:
There is truth to this, in an EDGE interview in the late 90's with Bullfrog they spoke to his team, who seemed to be the ones actually conceiving ideas like Syndicate etc...
NinjaMuffin
Member
Well if Notch blew money on this to then I don't feel so bad about it anymore.....kinda..err....i am a..."fan"................someone hand me a blade....
This. He failing to deliver on his promises of having the guy to be a god on a game and said that he would have a share on the profits of said game is disgusting.
How is this guy continuing doing games after all this lies(Fable 1, 2 and 3, the cube game and now Godus)????
That used to be me. Problem is he never listens to advice and instead will bully and insult you into oblivion if you dare to disagree with him.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Lol...
Green Wiggly
Member
Wow, he sounds like a total douche bag (which isn't surprising really). And you're the Sam from all the posts with "I talked to someone at 22cans named Sam..."?
Weren't you writing a book on him? If he was a bully in the workplace you should blow the whistle on him. Kotaku allows anonymous sources.
Reminds me of when I once dealt with TV execs (3 different channels). Their first instinct was to lie. Constantly. Blatantly. Even when the truth would do. And it wouldn't just be any lie but the most overblown, ridiculously OTT thing ever.
Please write a blog post or even a Kindle Single about this guy, I would pay to read it.
Oh boy...
More_Badass
Member
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
Ouch. Stone cold.
Some insight from a man who had dinner at his house.
http://jamsponge.tumblr.com/post/13202299881/dinner-with-peter-molyneux
http://jamsponge.tumblr.com/post/13202299881/dinner-with-peter-molyneux
soxinthebox
Member
Molyneux is an asshole
GeordieMark
Member
That article is hilarious.
Noisepurge
Member
lol... Not very anonymous anymore! haha
Dirtyshubb
Member
Just a heads up, @LaurakBuzz interviewed Peter today and says that the last 10 minutes of the interview were really interesting and made him come out much better that she thought he would. She hasnt written anything up yet as she only just finished but should be interesting to check out.
Baron_Calamity
Member
I'm not defending him, I'm defending why gamers and the industry put up with this crap for so long. He had a crap ton of good will built up..
Is he going to bring out the fake tears again? How many more "journalists" are going to fall for that shit? Of course he's going to be sorry, apologise and kiss a lot of ass, then next week you'll hear nothing of it. We probably won't hear anything from him til his next "life changing project" is announced.
He seems to have the ability to smugly slime his way out of anything, with just enough soul searching "honesty" to make it look real.
Unless the kid is getting a big fucking cheque it's nothing but bullshit.
TheSpoiler
Member
It'll have to be something groundbreaking, something earth shattering for me accept this event. And just like I doubt the potency of his games, I doubt him relaying anything that could explain why he's constantly overpromised and underdelievered to such extreme ends.
Edit: The tweets do nothing for me. Like, let her write that shit and get it out, but I have a feeling it'll be the usual journalistic asskissing they give him.
But wait, according to Peter, he was bullied himself and everyone complaining are a bunch of insensitive asses who are just big bullies and they are making him feel bad
"So I prefer invest to play. But I feel now I am universally hated by the gaming people… I was bullied at school. Badly bullied at school. And I feel some of that emotion bubbling up inside me again now."
Poor Peter!
The whole article should be read. His explanation of why his strong anti-Free2Play statements don't apply to Godus' Free2Play system is astounding:
http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/iPad/Godus/feature.asp?c=61069
BrassDragon
Member
Really worried we're getting a sob story that supposedly explains why his grand vision wasn't realised. Yet again.
He lies. All the time. Obsessively. That's his MO.
I hope whatever he claims is fact-checked and sourced with a third party before we get yet another vanity piece written by a starstruck reporter to throw on the pile.
gingerbeardman
Member
Sounds to me like they will introduce multi-player and it will be set up so that the God of Gods role is transferrable through play. Then somebody with more time or luck on their hands will take the title from poor Bryan, as the kid won't be able to play enough to keep hold of it. And his reward will be 1% of whatever revenue Godus brings in on that particular day. I do hope I'm wrong...
Indrid Cold1
Member
This fucking guy.
When will we learn? He's a total bullshitter.
When will we learn? He's a total bullshitter.
That sounds like exactly what Peter was describing.
And also, I'm sure that the "player" who usurps Bryan will turn out to be an intern at 22cans.
More_Badass
Member
This right here
And you guys thought microtransactions in MKX was bad?
Wait timers. In a PC game.
Devs must embrace and love F2P
I think that was the 'life-changing' element.
"How much of your life are you willing to give to this game, to maintain your position as God, in return earning revenue from the profits of the title?"
It's nice conceptually, but it was all Molyneux gas.
With all this 22can / Godus talk yesterday, I actually downloaded the phone game to check it out... getting it to work was shaky, and the tutorial bugged forcing me to quit and resume, but in the early stages after that, it is actually enjoyable so far. Manipulating the landscape is pretty satisfying and well conceived.
I'm sure things will take a major down turn at some point if I keep going though... micro-transaction hell will show its ugly head eventually. But so far there is no sign of it, and I appreciate that! Most F2P games on mobile teach you how to spend their precious gems first and foremost.
I'm sure things will take a major down turn at some point if I keep going though... micro-transaction hell will show its ugly head eventually. But so far there is no sign of it, and I appreciate that! Most F2P games on mobile teach you how to spend their precious gems first and foremost.
Molyneux should never be able to use the word 'accruing' again.
Ugh. This interview is more than 6 months old, I'm really intrigued as to how he justifies his nonsense now.
PrivateRyan
Member
No it's not but that doesn't automatically exclude this from being over-written, as fascinating as it is to have the author ponder out loud how long Brian's bus journey was.
Yeah, I agree with this.
Apparently the "God of Gods" rules for 6 months automatically, at least the first one. At the end points are tallied up and new one is chosen or something.
why wait?
Moved?
if you are, you've been duped. These are quotes about Curiosity during the launch of Godus's kickstarter with the game names replaced
down 2 orth
Member
Wow, this man shows all the sings for a total empathy deficit. I believe there's a better term for that...
That Brown Guy
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CecilRousso
Member
Feels more like a marketing ploy then anything else really, to get publicity for their own game.
JTGreat
Member
Oh man, this is crazy. I saw you posting some pretty down stuff on twitter about the game but never expected this!