Even in the best situations, MMOs take a long time to make. 5 years minimum.
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Star Citizen Pre-Alpha: 'Arena Commander' Dogfighting
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Even in the best situations, MMOs take a long time to make. 5 years minimum.
Squadron 42, the single player story campaign, should be out by then. The fist part of it, anyway.
Zalusithix
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Yes, the front "explorer" can't jump, but the ship as a whole can. Heck, they show the whole ship doing a jump in the first article.
Though I must say, the concept of a jumpless exploration craft amuses me. More like a scout than exploration.
Though I must say, the concept of a jumpless exploration craft amuses me. More like a scout than exploration.
Ah. I misread, the ship won't be available as an exploration only ship. Hence not offering explorer pods standalone.
It's a pretty cool idea, I dig it. Looks great too. But yeah the head section is more of a scout, making the actual exploration ships like the constellation the more efficient choice as they should be.
Zalusithix
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It's not really an exploration ship in general. That's the Carrack's domain. The "exploration" is more studying an existing system type than charting into the unknown. Seems to be you'd send your Carrack out to find new places/routes and do rough cartography. After that you'd send your combat ships in to lock the area down, and then pull the Endeavor in to do detailed analysis.
Wow. Have they spoken of exploration being that involved or is that speculation?
Zalusithix
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Mostly a merger of what has been said in various channels.
The Endeavor can find points of interest within a solar system, but is weakly armed and not something you'd put in harms way. Sending it somewhere when you're not sure what's on the other side, isn't the best of ideas. The Carrack, on the other hand, is designed to find jump points and map them. It's also quite sturdy and designed for long treks into the unknown. You could substitute the Carrack with another exploration craft in the example, but the Carrack is the "big" one, so I used that.
At any rate, before you can get to a place, you have to have know where a sufficiently large jump point leading to the location is, and have it mapped. True exploration craft are designed to both find and map them. The mapping/charting in particular is supposed to be an active process. In addition to the exploration craft needing specialized computers to map it, you need to pilot the ship through it which is supposed to require quick reflexes. Failure can damage or destroy the ship. Once the point is successfully mapped, other ships will be able to safely traverse it if they have the data.
Thus the true exploration craft -> lockdown -> science craft sequence.
Sounds good, thanks for the info.
Dictator93
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Before SQ42 comes out, we should set up a Wing COmmander playthrough thread IMO.
Good idea. I'm in.
No rush though, we've got at least 15 more months to go. :asciismugface:
Xplatformer
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Wing Commander 1-4, lad. Go big or go to your hangar.
Iced_Eagle
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We will likely get an updated roadmap at citizen con next week.
Don't forget that we haven't seen much from Foundry 42 so it's hard for us to guess. Based on precedence though, I would hope for first half of next year. Initial release is only the first 10 missions, so it won't be the entire campaign at once which likely helps production to get it out sooner though.
Great. I'm mainly looking forward to the single player portion of things for the time being, so the release of that is most likely when I'd put some money down. Thanks.
As someone that doesn't really keep track of Star Citizen events it seems like they have one of these every 2 months.
Oh fuck. Hahaha. Nailed it!
CIG just updated their Escapist response with a demand letter from Freyermuth.
Basically, if they don't offer an apology and a retraction, legal action will be taken.
Basically, if they don't offer an apology and a retraction, legal action will be taken.
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Dictator93
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Dictator93
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You know, next week on saturday... I am gonna run my comp to my TV, sit with some beers, and watch the live stream. How are you guys gonna do it?
It will be crazy... that is for certain. I am interested to see how the greater gaming community reacts to a trailer, gameplay reveal or otherwise. Hopefully with less condescension.
Let's hope I do not have an aneurism and die right before they reveal SQ42 just because the universe loves to spite me.
It will be crazy... that is for certain. I am interested to see how the greater gaming community reacts to a trailer, gameplay reveal or otherwise. Hopefully with less condescension.
Let's hope I do not have an aneurism and die right before they reveal SQ42 just because the universe loves to spite me.
There is going to be a huge curtain. Drum roll, light show. And then it opens. CR in a tailored suit is standing in front of 20 Ferraris and a huge yacht und announces Star Citizen is canceled.
Outrun
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CIG understands that if they do not control the public perception of this game, the amount of backers contributing for this game is going to dry up. And the problem that they face with their expanding scope is that they need a continuous flow of money.
Rightly or wrongly, perception is turning against this project. I hope that in the coming weeks CIG provides a concrete date for SQ42 and SC.
This is the only way to shut up naysayers. CIG is not a large and financially-secure enough entity (like Valve or Blizzard) to say that "the game will be released with it is ready"
I hope that they pull it off.
Rightly or wrongly, perception is turning against this project. I hope that in the coming weeks CIG provides a concrete date for SQ42 and SC.
This is the only way to shut up naysayers. CIG is not a large and financially-secure enough entity (like Valve or Blizzard) to say that "the game will be released with it is ready"
I hope that they pull it off.
There is going to be a huge curtain. Drum roll, light show. And then it opens. CR in a tailored suit is standing in front of 20 Ferraris and a huge yacht und announces Star Citizen is canceled.
Ferraris? You can be sure he bought a whole fleet of Tesla Model Xs.
I think it will be all revealed that
Chris Roberts is actually Derek Smart.
Dubbedinenglish
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I'm just hoping they show gameplay changes to actually make it good.
Maybe repair bears?
I'm trying to organize free time next saturday to watch the stream, but its getting harder and harder ;/
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Yeah, not going to happen. Also it would not shut the naysayers at all.
If by concrete you mean a broad "Q1 2016" which end up delayed, I guess that's possible.
I mean... were are still waiting for Star Marine, let's be real, we can't allow ourself to have any expectation from them when it comes to release date. So let's be happy we will get to see some really cool stuff at citizen con, and hope that they at least get to release baby PU and star marine before then end of the year.
Then enjoy the wait till Arena Commander 2.0 and first part of SQ42 hopefully in the first half of the year. ( and cry in a corner at the Oculus CV1 release about the complete lack of work on VR support, and nvidia not releasing it's new cards soon enough )
I'm not sure that I should be hopeful or worried that this might be the case... At least not before I see a gameplay trailer of SQ42.
If legal action is taken against the Escapist you should revise that prediction my dear Zabo. Millions won in that lawsuit could result in even more feature creep ;P
Xplatformer
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But what if they don't? How about they don't give a release date for SQ42 or the persistant universe...yet they provide...
Customizable avatars for the PU/Social Module
FPS module
Arena Commander 2.0
More areas like Arctec
Will that result in public opinion allegedly eroding?
CyberPunked
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I'm gonna be right there in the crowd
I've had to warn my SO that it's going to be goofy, it's going to be cringy, there will be technical issues, and it wont start until it's at least 30 mins late. But hey, that's what it's all about!
Its really one of the main problems, they keep trying to perfect everything when they should be getting it out there, bugs and all.
Everything that's not SQ42 I agree completely. Give us everything, regardless of polish, as that's the reason I backed so early.
However I have a feeling that Chris and other devs have a hard time giving a product that doesn't work well or feel fun to the public. I mean, just look at what happened with Arena Commander.
Also, DiscoLando just posted this in response to disclosing financial records.
CIG Disco Lando | DiscoLando-CIG said:
staticneuron
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Funny thing about this. I just had a discussion with a family member about this. I pay all my bills but also have enough to spend on items I find are worth it. Mostly in part because of my job. While they had a criticism of what I spent my money on, I had to remind them on the amount of times they said they wanted what I had, and how often the cheaper alternative for them either broke or went unused.
It is easy on the outside to assume.
-5, lads.
Wow, those old ship designs look so nasty now.
Dictator93
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The game has progressed so much visually and design wise...
btw, anyone up for some pickup vanduul coop this evening? I've got an itch I need to scratch.
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