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Syrian government working with IS

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Sky have just posted this - leaked documents suggesting them coordinating with one another.

http://news.sky.com/story/1688756/is-files-reveal-assads-deals-with-militants

IS Files Reveal Assad's Deals With Militants


Islamic State and the Assad regime in Syria have been colluding with each other in deals on the battleground, Sky News can reveal.

Our exclusive investigation into leaked secret IS files suggests one piece of co-operation was over the ancient city of Palmyra.

The files also show that the militant group has been training foreign fighters to attack Western targets for much longer than security services had suspected.

The revelations underscore fears in the United States that a network of sleeper cells is spread across Europe, avoiding detection, and is planning further Paris- and Brussels-style assaults.

IS defectors, meanwhile, have told Sky News that Palmyra was handed back to government forces by Islamic State as part of a series of cooperation agreements going back years.

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New letters obtained by Sky News, in addition to the massive haul of 22,000 files handed over last month, appear to confirm this.

They show:

:: An agreement with the Syrian regime to withdraw IS weapons from Palmyra.

:: A deal between IS and Syria to trade oil for fertiliser and;

:: Arrangements to evacuate some areas by Islamic State forces BEFORE the Syrian army attacked.

More at the link.
 
not really shocking, because there were many vocal reports about that. let's see if this changes something finally to better things.
I wish the best
 
Ah yes, Syria's secular stabilizers.

I'll quote myself from the ISIS OT where it went completely unnoticed:

Interesting documentary by France24, embedded with SDF vs ISIS:
EXCLUSIVE: Interethnic coalition takes on the IS group in Syria - YouTube ~ maybe worthy of a thread in itself.
Here's two very interesting things about it:

- Kurds allege the Assad regime of supplying ISIS with weaponry in exchange for oil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aftoBdrjm7Q&feature=youtu.be&t=1660
They seized documents with wire transfers by the regime to ISIS.

...

Yet, there'll still be plenty of people cheering on Assad because regime change, Saudi Arabia, Zionists, bla, etc.
 
Bashar Al-Assad is a monster working with evil people to keep his country oppressed?

Nonsense, it's not like the man has a long, detailed history of fostering islamic extremism in order to propagate a terror campaign for his own strategic interests.

Oh wait.
 

AndyD

aka andydumi
Yeah, not entirely shocking but evidence makes this interesting. I wonder what will happen on the back of this.

Indeed. Someone speculated a few months back in the Palmyra thread that IS probably stopped destroying it at the behest of Assad's regime, which was afraid that destruction of hugely historical pieces in IS showy fashion would cause more solidarity across the West to come in and act, threatening his grip.
 
I saw an interview last month with a guy (a journalist IIRC) who spent a long time in jail as a political prisoner, that guy recounted how when the revolt started Assad's regime released a few dozen inmates overnight. These guys they released were apparently violent religious zealots and all became ISIS members.

So yeah, I don't have a hard time believing that shitstain would have destabilized his own country to avoid being overthrown.
 
Wait but why? What does Assad gain from this?

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MUnited83

For you.
No shit. People who actually think that Assad is "the lesser evil" are crazy. He has been doing shit like this for a while. Remember when they released the crazy ass inmates on purpose that went on to join ISIS?
Wait but why? What does Assad gain from this?

Deestabilizing the country and become a even bigger opressor. And if he gets everyone else to fight in between themselves, there will be no one to oppose him in the end.
 
Considering the amount of bellyaching people and politicians/heads-of-state are doing about the Refugee crisis, it's a shame The Syria situation was allowed to fester and decay causing it in the first place.

Bashar Al-Assad will have his day eventually...just not today.
 
This can very damaging if it is legit and becomes big news. Many countries can easily make the case the by that dealing with the government can help with dealing with ISIS considering that they work together.

There really wasn't much proof before like someone is, now there is.

Wait but why? What does Assad gain from this?

One strategy that has been stated is that the government has been trying to destroy the rebels so most of them will go to ISIS or other jihadists that are in the opposition. That way there's only two choices. Also ISIS controls some oil fields that is needed by the government. There were hints that ISIS was selling oil to many.
 

daxy

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For as many damning documents as they claim to have, the actual report is super vague and references only two concrete statements? No doubt the Syrian govt. is bad news, but you can take what was written in this article a number of ways; one of which being that they want to avoid the historic city being damaged even further. The implied black/white divide this article paints (US only funds the nice guys/Syrian govt. only works with the bad guys) is, as history will have shown us numerous times, surely not that simple either. Until a more credible source provides an extensive report, I'd take this with a grain of salt.
 
this is the dude that freed killers from prison in order to cause chaos and justify his rule

of course stuff like this will be ignored since there are a ton of Putin/Assad fanboys/girls in the world now
 

Weckum

Member
I hate people who go 'well, Assad is better than having ISIS there'. No he is not, he killed more people than ISIS. Both are idiots.
 
http://uk.businessinsider.com/assad-isis-palmyra-2016-5?r=US&IR=T

"Withdraw all heavy artillery and anti-aircraft machine guns from in and around Palmyra to Raqqa province," read one document that was dated just before the Syrian Arab Army recaptured Palmyra at the end of March.

Stuart Ramsay, Sky News' chief correspondent, said he asked one of the defectors if ISIS was coordinating its movements directly with forces loyal to Assad — and even with Russia, which backed the assault on Palmyra with heavy airstrikes.

"Of course," the ISIS defector told Ramsay.

The documents obtained by Sky News provide more evidence that the Assad regime has been colluding with the jihadists, who have captured more than half of Syria's territory since 2012.

The Wall Street Journal reported last month on files uncovered during a raid on the home of Abu Sayyaf, the Islamic State "oil minister" who was killed by US Special Forces at his compound in Syria's Deir Ezzour province last May. The files revealed deals the Assad regime supposedly made with Sayyaf that, at one point, contributed up to 72% of ISIS' profits from natural resources.

Abu Sayyaf's division had successfully negotiated agreements with the Assad regime to allow Islamic State trucks and pipelines to move from regime-controlled fields through territory controlled by the group, which is also known as ISIS, ISIL, or Daesh. The division helped the jihadists bring in roughly $40 million a month in oil sales alone, according to documents seen by The Journal.

The natural-gas fields surrounding Palmyra were a particularly important source of revenue for the jihadists. They turned the gas into fuel which they then sold to Assad, according to Matthew Reed, the vice president of Foreign Reports Inc., a Washington, D.C.-based consulting firm focused on oil and politics in the Middle East.

The documents smuggled out of Raqqa to Sky News appeared to provide corroboration.

"One document requests safe passage for a driver through IS checkpoints 'until he reaches the border with the Syrian regime to exchange oil for fertilizer,'" Ramsay wrote.

Most likely this was known, and the US had some sort proof.
 

JohnTinker

Limbaugh Parrot
I don't find anything at all surprising about Assad anymore. He's willing to remain in power no matter the cost, and this just makes the Russian smokescreen of intervention to "fight ISIS" that much more thin.
 
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