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witchedwiz · Sep 12, 2011

whatever it is...
in english DAMN YOU NAMCO!
I'm not a kid anymore, can't really afford to play japanese games with a translation guide to get whatever is said!
When i sit on my couch to play&relax, I want to PLAY&RELAX!

Nix · Sep 12, 2011

witchedwiz said:
whatever it is...
in english DAMN YOU NAMCO!
I'm not a kid anymore, can't really afford to play japanese games with a translation guide to get whatever is said!
When i sit on my couch to play&relax, I want to PLAY&RELAX!

Kinda hard to do that mate, when most of the good stuff isn't coming over here no matter what. =/

Just buckle down and go with the import flow, reading japanese as you progress, or import and wait for a fan translation. Which take years; I'm not knocking translators, they do a magnificent job, but years man.

Well, maybe this announcement will be a Xillia Locali- they're not going anywhere near that until Graces F ships are they...

TreIII · Sep 12, 2011

Team Destiny anything (port/remake/all-new) would be nice to see. Especially since the more I learned about Xillia, the less I ended up liking.

witchedwiz · Sep 12, 2011

Nix said:
Kinda hard to do that mate, when most of the good stuff isn't coming over here no matter what. =/

Just buckle down and go with the import flow, reading japanese as you progress, or import and wait for a fan translation. Which take years; I'm not knocking translators, they do a magnificent job, but years man.

Well, maybe this announcement will be a Xillia Locali- they're not going anywhere near that until Graces F ships are they...

idd, gotta appreciate fan translations, it's always free and pretty much always good..
but I'd love to get every frigging game..
say.. sigma harmonics... the game appealed me.. but japanese...
I don't have times or will to use a japanese dictionary to translation check online faqs while playing... I'm tired enough as is, without going the translator-gamer way of life...
mmmm way of the hard-core game would fit that case! :X

PixyJunket · Sep 12, 2011

TreIII said:
Team Destiny anything (port/remake/all-new) would be nice to see. Especially since the more I learned about Xillia, the less I ended up liking.

Seconded, mostly.

I got burned buying ToD:R twice already, so I'd only be excited for another port/remake if it would be localized (which, of course, won't happen). Tales of Destiny 3 could be interesting, it's my favorite Tales cast so I wouldn't mind seeing them a third time.

Rpgmonkey · Sep 12, 2011

So did something happen when they expressed interest in the Vita to make people settle on the idea that the very first game for it was going to be a major entry? Not saying it's totally outside the realm of possibility (it is Tales, after all), but even if/when it gets one, I'd expect something smaller to release first. They still have a few console Tales games remaining that can be milked with a portable version!

And Radiant Mythology 3 came out in February this year, too soon for RM4. Going by the usual pacing, RM4 is a late 2012/early 2013 game.

I don't remember lesser titles like ports or spinoffs (especially ports) getting countdowns or teaser sites anyway, so I'm guessing it's the next original game or remake by Tales Studio.

RPGCrazied · Sep 12, 2011

Tales of Xillia for NA?

Too soon I guess. One can dream though.

TreIII · Sep 12, 2011

PixyJunket said:
Seconded, mostly.

I got burned buying ToD:R twice already, so I'd only be excited for another port/remake if it would be localized (which, of course, won't happen). Tales of Destiny 3 could be interesting, it's my favorite Tales cast so I wouldn't mind seeing them a third time.

I wouldn't mind Destiny 3, either.

But I guess my thing is, with 2D (sprite-based) Tales probably going to be phased out entirely sooner or later, I'm hoping that maybe we can get another one somehow, on whatever platform that would allow that much to happen (likely a portable, so PSP, 3DS or Vita).

Labadal · Sep 12, 2011

Tales of THEATRHYTHM. square can't be allowed to be the only ones to cash in!

Serious anwser: Hope it's for 3DS.

Seven Force · Sep 12, 2011

I wouldn't mind it being a ToD:R port, if it meant that I could play it without having to bother with Swap Magic on PS2.

chickdigger802 · Sep 12, 2011

Tales of something that ain't coming to the west.

But seriously, the next mainline game is pretty likely. They need to spend the next few years pimping all the cool dlc clothes!

RPGCrazied · Sep 12, 2011

Maybe to early, but Wii U would be nice.

Brazil · Sep 12, 2011

RPGCrazied said:
Tales of Xillia for NA?

Too soon I guess. One can dream though.

They haven't even released ToGf here yet, man. Chill.

AgentChris · Sep 12, 2011

Tale of Vita is my guess.

Persona7 · Sep 12, 2011

Countdown for a countdown for a tease of a tease of a tease that will come to fruition if tales of graces F sells 3 million copies.

Link1110 · Sep 12, 2011

Hoping for Symphonia remake for 3ds with free run. I couldn't even play the original without it last time I tried, and I beat it 3 times the summer it came out.

Rpgmonkey · Sep 13, 2011

Bamco's applied for a trademark for "Tales of the Heroes".

http://www1.ipdl.inpit.go.jp/syutsugan/TM_DETAIL_A.cgi?0&507&0&500&10&131587203282661002400262

商願2011-052035 テイルズ　オブ　ザ　ヒーローズ＼ＴＡＬＥＳ　ＯＦ　ＴＨＥ　ＨＥＲＯＥＳ

PixyJunket · Sep 13, 2011

TreIII said:
I wouldn't mind Destiny 3, either.

But I guess my thing is, with 2D (sprite-based) Tales probably going to be phased out entirely sooner or later, I'm hoping that maybe we can get another one somehow, on whatever platform that would allow that much to happen (likely a portable, so PSP, 3DS or Vita).

I'm not too particular about the 2D/3D thing anymore. Although I suppose I still have to play Graces before I fully grasp how Team Destiny's battle systems will work in 3D, although I have heard positive things from some import players. But yeah, if the battle system still follows the progress they've made from Destiny 2 to Destiny R (and Graces), I'd be cool with whatever from them, to be honest!

Rpgmonkey said:
Bamco's applied for a trademark for "Tales of the Heroes".

I'd guess more cross-over stuff from that. Maybe a Vita/3DS follow up to Narikiri Dungeon/Radiant Mythology? Yawn, if so.

Stumpokapow · Sep 13, 2011

Rpgmonkey said:
Bamco's applied for a trademark for "Tales of the Heroes".

http://www1.ipdl.inpit.go.jp/syutsugan/TM_DETAIL_A.cgi?0&507&0&500&10&131587203282661002400262

商願2011-052035 テイルズ　オブ　ザ　ヒーローズ＼ＴＡＬＥＳ　ＯＦ　ＴＨＥ　ＨＥＲＯＥＳ

namco buying falcom confirmed

Phenomic · Sep 13, 2011

Stumpokapow said:
namco buying falcom confirmed

Does this mean XSeed can have the Tales localization license?

PixyJunket · Sep 13, 2011

Phenomic said:
Does this mean XSeed can have the Tales localization license?

Nope, it means they lose the Falcom license.

-Pyromaniac- · Sep 13, 2011

Stumpokapow said:
namco buying falcom confirmed

don't even joke about things like this

Cactus · Sep 13, 2011

Stumpokapow said:
namco buying falcom confirmed

Nah, Falcom is busy making Suikoden VI for Konami!

ZealousD · Sep 13, 2011

wrowa said:
Tales of Vita? Tales of Vita.

Delio said:
guess it's a Tales of Vita game. Cant wait to see it.

weeaboo said:
Tales of Vita. I wonder which one are they going to port, Vesperia?

Come on guys. You're thinking with your brains.

You have to remember, this is Namco. You should be thinking with your ass.

Tales of Rebirth HD.

Drkirby · Sep 13, 2011

duckroll said:
Yeah, surely they wouldn't.

You forgot one!

Enhanced version of the first PSP port was included in the game.

B.K. · Sep 13, 2011

Labadal said:
Serious anwser: Hope it's for 3DS.

It won't be for 3DS. They've basically already confirmed that they're working on a game for Vita.

Bel Marduk · Sep 13, 2011

Rpgmonkey said:
Bamco's applied for a trademark for "Tales of the Heroes".

http://www1.ipdl.inpit.go.jp/syutsugan/TM_DETAIL_A.cgi?0&507&0&500&10&131587203282661002400262

商願2011-052035 テイルズ　オブ　ザ　ヒーローズ＼ＴＡＬＥＳ　ＯＦ　ＴＨＥ　ＨＥＲＯＥＳ

Cross over game then probably...not surprising.

Dead Prince · Sep 13, 2011

Tales of Zetta.

that's my guess of new game.

Rpgmonkey · Sep 13, 2011

Bel Marduk said:
Cross over game then probably...not surprising.

No Tales game for the holidays at the moment, so this might be out around then. Probably part of the Vita's early software lineup.

Datschge · Sep 13, 2011

TreIII said:
But I guess my thing is, with 2D (sprite-based) Tales probably going to be phased out entirely sooner or later

It pretty much already happened (unless the reveal turns out to be a 2D game). The ToDR staff went on with ToG. The ToH staff went on with ToX (some with the short detour NDX). So much for me expecting the ToH staff to become the new permanent 2D staff. =/

PixyJunket · Sep 13, 2011

Datschge said:
It pretty much already happened (unless the reveal turns out to be a 2D game). The ToDR staff went on with ToG. The ToH staff went on with ToX (some with the short detour NDX). So much for me expecting the ToH staff to become the new permanent 2D staff. =/

Wait. Are there three main teams now? Not counting teams that work on side games like Radiant Mythology?

Datschge · Sep 13, 2011

PixyJunket said:
Wait. Are there three main teams now? Not counting teams that work on side stuff?

No idea what all the previous "TS" lead staffs do atm. Maybe partying on Hawaii about the mention in the special thanks section in ToX.

PixyJunket · Sep 13, 2011

Datschge said:
No idea what all the previous "TS" lead staffs do atm. Maybe partying on Hawaii about the mention in the special thanks section in ToX.

Interesting. Thanks for the info, I might have to reevaluate ToX at some point.

salromano · Sep 13, 2011

Rpgmonkey said:
Bamco's applied for a trademark for "Tales of the Heroes".

http://www1.ipdl.inpit.go.jp/syutsugan/TM_DETAIL_A.cgi?0&507&0&500&10&131587203282661002400262

商願2011-052035 テイルズ　オブ　ザ　ヒーローズ＼ＴＡＬＥＳ　ＯＦ　ＴＨＥ　ＨＥＲＯＥＳ

How do you search marks on the site? The link you provided is broken.

Aeana · Sep 13, 2011

PixyJunket said:
Interesting. Thanks for the info, I might have to reevaluate ToX at some point.

I don't know your previous stance on it, but you should be sure your re-evaluation ends up at "totally want to play it, 'cause it's good."

I don't think the concept of a "Team Symphonia" or "Team Destiny" game really exists anymore, but I'm not complaining. Xillia has a lot of what I like about Abyss and Vesperia, with a much more interesting combat system than those games.

Rpgmonkey · Sep 13, 2011

salromano said:
How do you search marks on the site? The link you provided is broken.

Figured it was, lol. Use the English one instead.

Go here, click "Japanese Trademark Database", and put "2011-052035" in the bottom search field (the one about Application Number):
http://www.ipdl.inpit.go.jp/homepg_e.ipdl

I was using the Japanese version of the search (easier for me to look for things like this) so the results are little different, but the trademark is still there.

Bel Marduk · Sep 13, 2011

So basically Xillia is more a ToH team project than a Team Symphonia project? Hmm.

salromano · Sep 13, 2011

Rpgmonkey said:
Figured it was, lol. Use the English one instead.

Go here, click "Japanese Trademark Database", and put "2011-052035" in the bottom search field (the one about Application Number):
http://www.ipdl.inpit.go.jp/homepg_e.ipdl

I was using the Japanese version of the search (easier for me to look for things like this) so the results are little different, but the trademark is still there.

Got it. Thanks! Just wanted to see the date it was trademarked. It was July 22, 2011, for anyone that's wondering. ;-)

Aeana · Sep 13, 2011

Bel Marduk said:
So basically Xillia is more a ToH team project than a Team Symphonia project? Hmm.

Well I don't really know about the staff, but from playing it, certain aspects like skits and the story itself are very reminiscent of Team Symphonia stuff.

PixyJunket · Sep 13, 2011

Aeana said:
I don't know your previous stance on it, but you should be sure your re-evaluation ends up at "totally want to play it, 'cause it's good."

I don't think the concept of a "Team Symphonia" or "Team Destiny" game really exists anymore, but I'm not complaining. Xillia has a lot of what I like about Abyss and Vesperia, with a much more interesting combat system than those games.

My previous stance was "play if released in the west." I don't think that will immediately change with Graces on the horizon (as I'm far more interested in that), but thanks for the positive vibes, I'll definitely take a second look at it once Graces has come and gone.

Datschge · Sep 13, 2011

Bel Marduk said:
So basically Xillia is more a ToH team project than a Team Symphonia project? Hmm.

Since we talk here instead in the Xillia OT:

Datschge said:
Transcribed most of the developer part of the staff roll. A couple observations:
- Staff list definitely is a mix of ToV and ToH (and by extension NDX), to me it even feels more like a ToH follow up staff wise than a ToV one due to all the missing major "TS" staff.
- All the who's who of both "Team Symphonia" and "Team Destiny" reside in the Special Thanks section.
- Except Takashi Hasegawa, previous "TS" project leader, is now in the Scenario section headed "SWOT by NTS". (Huh???)
- Programming is mostly done by one person, Toyokazu Endo, but there are three support programmers for the battle system, one who did the same on ToH and battle planning on NDX, and one who did battle programming on ToG (all three are so new that they didn't appear in a localized Tales game yet, so no romanization).
- Female staff just keep marrying their co-workers...

Just take a name on the site and use the search on the top of the page to see what other Tales games one is credited in.

Bel Marduk · Sep 13, 2011

Weird. So it's ToH x ToV...but missing some key members and it feels like a ToH followup staff wise? Not really sure what to think lol. I guess this may be the first Tales game where you can't really classify it into any one group I guess?

Datschge · Sep 13, 2011

Bel Marduk said:
I guess this may be the first Tales game where you can't really classify it into any one group I guess?

Team Hearts if you want to insist on a group (you shouldn't). =P

Kyoufu · Sep 13, 2011

Why do I get the feeling "Tales of the Heroes" is going to be a MonHun clone?

Rpgmonkey · Sep 13, 2011

Kyoufu said:
Why do I get the feeling "Tales of the Heroes" is going to be a MonHun clone?

But Bamco's already got God Eater.

It's probably like Tales of VS, some spinoff to experiment with a different genre or radically different type of gameplay. Maybe a big focus on going through the content with other people online?

Regardless, don't think any spinoffs outside of the Tales of the World games have gotten much praise, so my expectations are very low.

Spiegel · Sep 13, 2011

Apparently Tales of Innocence R for Vita is on a japanese magazine?

Not confirmed though

kiryogi · Sep 13, 2011

Yeah that's the rumor running around. Tales of Heroes PSP and Tales of Innocence R for Vita.

Do not want.

ULTROS! · Sep 13, 2011

Wasn't Tales of Innocence not so good?

Jinfash · Sep 13, 2011

Spiegel said:
Apparently Tales of Innocence R for Vita is on a japanese magazine?

Not confirmed though

Is that the good DS Tales or the bad one?

Mpl90 · Sep 13, 2011

Spiegel said:
Apparently Tales of Innocence R for Vita is on a japanese magazine?

Not confirmed though

Ehi, a remake of a DS title!
There was a rumour about it!

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