This is also what I see. No game, no girl wanting to make a game. Just a lady exploiting a new system to get free money from dumb people.
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Millionaire tries to get $829 via kickstarter to send daughter to RPG maker camp?
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This is also what I see. No game, no girl wanting to make a game. Just a lady exploiting a new system to get free money from dumb people.
ephemeral garbage
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Someone totally noticed something with the character sheet :
They erased an E where the misspelled U in neutral (nuetral) is to intentionally make it more incorrect/childish/endearing. Neat.
I find it funny that the kid took a 14 STR and a 6 INT
Carpe Libertatem
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Comments like this are why people were donating to the Kickstarter in the first place
moka
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You're deffinately missing something. The person who proposed the project is a woman.
Also, why she started a KS for it is beyond us. I think she said that she wanted to teach her kids about getting money themselves or something?
Clockwork
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You mean besides the fact that the person is female?
Who would want a smart Rogue?
But seriously this is just a farce with slapped together "props" as pointed out by many others, so shameful.
Why is the author of the project supposedly spamming celebrity blogs/tweets? And why is there a 10,000 tier for a 800$ project?
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...lding-an-rpg-to-prove-her-brothers-w/comments
So, someone asking for college tuition would be a no-no, but someone asking for money to take a drawing class would be okay? What a strange distinction. Anything whose end goal is, essentially, "help me learn things and maybe someday I'll make something with that knowledge" isn't really defensible against Kickstarter's TOS. KS is for funding concrete projects with clearly defined endgoals, not vague promises and potential.
Dark Octave
Banned
A normal parent?
But on topic: Someone who has the means, shouldn't be using Kickstarter. Kickstarter was originally set up for people who have no other possible way to make their projects a reality. Greed like this only takes away from the people who actually need the service.
moka
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Exactly, it's like claiming benefits when you don't qualify for them and as we all know, benefit fraud is a crime.
theSlacker
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Are you doing this on purpose?
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Actually it's even worse when you think about it. Her lesson is to still ask other people for money. Only this time it's strangers instead of her millionaire parents. It's all a scam.
I'm not personally comfortable with people who have the funds using Kickstarter, but...
...Jesus Christ for someone who likes to point out logical fallacies you sure do like to commit them.
...Jesus Christ for someone who likes to point out logical fallacies you sure do like to commit them.
statham
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open a games studio for her daughter.
Aquamarine
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Officially, extra money is to "help fund future courses in computer programming for her along with more (and better) games."
But in reality? It'll go straight into the mother's backyard pool filled with money.
A goddamn millionaire DOES NOT need money to fund their child at a camp, plain and simple.
I know all about those camps. It's accurate. Most of the time isn't spend developing a game at all.
This is hardly getting money herself... it's simply getting others to do it for you.
She keeps talking about wanting to show her daughter the "power of the crowd"... Which is great and all, Crowd-funding is a great idea, but it doesn't really work when you've got millions of dollars and despite that you're basically asking the poor plebs pay for your summer camp.
faceless007
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Member of the 1% asking for a handout. Oh the irony.
I guess the valuable life lesson here for her kids is that if you're already rich and have lots of rich friends and come up with a ridiculous sob story, they'll give you even more money just 'cause.
I guess the valuable life lesson here for her kids is that if you're already rich and have lots of rich friends and come up with a ridiculous sob story, they'll give you even more money just 'cause.
statham
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please tell me 4chan is on this.Neat, a /b/er actually knows something about there with proof.
I demand play by play commentary on the kickball before I donate.
moka
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Ha, I think she was being sarcastic, but yeah.
Aquamarine
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Clearly you are an anti-feminist woman hater for not recognizing sarcasm when you see it!!!!!
theSlacker
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Been talked about for a few days. Surprised that this is the first thread here about it, and that it has gone in this direction. Figured it would be more about how misogynistic the haters are.
Between her daughter making a game, camp, sugar daddies and her lesbian son this is pretty weird. The whole thing is pretty shady overall.
I don't think the fact they are millionaires bothers me. I see no problem with that providing it was the daughter actually pursuing this. I would even have respect for the mother if she was having her daughter pursue this on her own regardless of the money they have. This is clearly not the case though.
If you cannot afford camp then you could just go on steam buy RPG Maker for $60 and have the daughter learn it. If her daughter wants to make a game so bad she could do it easily. When I was her age I wanted to learn Flash and animation and I did by working at it every night. I was lucky enough to have my parents buy me a copy of the program and I sat there and worked my ass off every night.
I don't think the fact they are millionaires bothers me. I see no problem with that providing it was the daughter actually pursuing this. I would even have respect for the mother if she was having her daughter pursue this on her own regardless of the money they have. This is clearly not the case though.
If you cannot afford camp then you could just go on steam buy RPG Maker for $60 and have the daughter learn it. If her daughter wants to make a game so bad she could do it easily. When I was her age I wanted to learn Flash and animation and I did by working at it every night. I was lucky enough to have my parents buy me a copy of the program and I sat there and worked my ass off every night.
theSlacker
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What game?
Good point. They now have to make the game since it's one of the rewards. If they don't, there may be legal consequences.
Is a creator legally obligated to fulfill the promises of their project?
Yes. Kickstarter's Terms of Use require creators to fulfill all rewards of their project or refund any backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill. (This is what creators see before they launch.) We crafted these terms to create a legal requirement for creators to follow through on their projects, and to give backers a recourse if they don't. We hope that backers will consider using this provision only in cases where they feel that a creator has not made a good faith effort to complete the project and fulfill.
IrishNinja
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theSlacker
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Don't think it even maters. Sure this is all for the "brand" that she is trying to make. "Keep Up" or something. Expect it to be trademarked and sold.
Because many millionaires are the most tight arse scums bags you'll ever meet and they''re the kind of person who'd pick up a 1 cent coin in the dirt.
This part just fucking killed me.
"$75 donation
Front of the sweatshirt is blank and the back is beautifully embroidered with "Keep Up!" in black. Personal favorite because if someone can read "Keep Up!" it means (by definition) they are BEHIND you!"
You go girl!
That's certainly what it looks like...
If she wants to start some kind of campaign for getting women in to "STEM" (whatever that is, I'm not sure) then deceptively masking it as a summer-camp trip for her daughter is not the best way to do it.
EDIT: unless that's not what this "Keep Up!" thing is about... I'm not sure, I haven't read the KS Page in full, just the main bits.
moka
Member
This makes sense because it's on the back of the sweater so people have to be behind you to read it. Get it?
Man, that's so awesome.
Black Door
Banned
I wonder if Ms. Wilson is one of those types of businesspeople who are so mired into the money-making game that they talk entirely in PR-speak, slogans, and corporate jargon
Shit like this is why I hate KickStarter. I've seen more cases of people trying to abuse the system or make easy money from it than actual projects I'd want to support.
It amazes me.. the incredibly stupid things that incredibly stupid people will throw money at.
Do they not have moderators who deny "projects" that aren't in the spirit of what KickStarter was founded on?
It amazes me.. the incredibly stupid things that incredibly stupid people will throw money at.
Do they not have moderators who deny "projects" that aren't in the spirit of what KickStarter was founded on?
Science, technology, engineering, and mathematics.
Oh, okay. Thanks.
I don't really get the whole pushing <insert demographic> into <insert profession> thing... If people don't want to do it, they don't want to do it. You could argue that society passively discourages people from certain things, and that's a problem... but... I dunno. I just don't understand it.
It depends on the kind of attitude you go into it with. If you come in with positive expectations, you're not going to see it as suspicious.
And once people put money down, they want to defend their choice to do so.
VibratingDonkey
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Yeah... Just about everything about this is super tacky, exploitative and gross. Hope the thing gets pulled.
She'd probably try to find a way of spinning that into more attention.
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