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[mattiewheels]

"Finally, some good news concerning females in technology."

"On top of that, Adobe has agreed to give the 9-year-old a complimentary subscription to Adobe Creative Cloud to help Kenzie in her noble pursuit."

"Negativity aside, it's refreshing to see the Internet put its pettiness away long enough to make a little girl's dream a reality."

I wish that moron would donate to a cause that actually DOES help make a needy girl's dreams come true. But why do that, right?

 

[Synth_floyd]

Did Alexandra Clancy, you know Tom Clancy's Wife message you about a $10K tier?

Not a $10k tier, but a $100k tier. I don't want to live in a college dorm and eat cafeteria food. I need a nice apartment and lobster and cavier every day. It will help to create an environment for me that is suitable for writing a book.

Oh and if you donate the $100k tier, you get to personally meet me and I will give you a handshake if you are male, a hug if you are female and a photo op as well. But you must provide the camera.

 

[Vamphuntr]

KS really needs to add some sort of rules that force the authors of kickstarters to account for every dime spent, and if the majority doesn't add up, they need to pay it back to Kickstarter who will send it back to the contributors. Not sure if that is feasible though.

The thing is that it would be easy to fake and spoof your books unless you hire a certified accountant. This would probably raise the price of your kickstarter.

The golden rule with Kickstarter was always to use your brain before donating and this has not changed. Give money to people that have a track record for releasing products and manufacturing and shipping physical goods. Read the project's page, look for the amount asked and think if it makes sense.

I doubt anyone in this thread donated to that scam...

 

[GeekyDad]

Thread title should read: "Crypt Keeper Makes Video Game"

 

[inky]

I backed this because I want children to learn how to program, irrespective of their gender. I hope that instead of some weekend RPG camp you find a way to get your children interested in mathematics so they can all be involved in these types of things.

I hope you learn not to exploit your kids like this though, and that your sons don't suffer long term from this. You seem to be a millionaire from what the Internet tells me; I hope you find it in your heart and in your 1040 to donate to lifting any child out of poverty by educating them with valuable skills.

"Hey I'll give you money, but think about what you are doing please, because it's wrong"

No wonder this crap is @ 20k already, lol. Man, I should do mine too. I have a cute niece that needs some stuff like a new PC and a Titan GFX card. Heck, she'll probably want that in SLI, so better make it 2 just to be safe.

 

[LukeTim]

I don't understand this ridiculous false dichotomy that is being presented of either being a successful woman who can make it on her own, or marrying some rich old dude for his money... kind of simple and manipulative...

 

[Kikujiro]

Here's my kickstarter idea.

I'm raising funds to kickstart for my book. I don't know what the book will be about. Probably fiction, but maybe not. But right now I'm an ignorant high school dropout so I need to raise $100k so that I can get my GED, and then go to college and get educated and then I will decide what my book will be about and then write it.

MONEY PLEASE!!!!

You should add that you're a female, your brothers are making fun of you and you're trying to change this male dominated industry.

 

[Storm360]

Kick starter still haven't pulled this?

When I get home I'm half tempted to make a kick starter to support me going to University, I wonder how fast it will be pulled.

 

[Aquamarine]

You should add that you're a female, your brothers are making fun of you and you're trying to change this male dominated industry.

That's fucking brilliant. That way, you'll get lots of men to protect you against those EVIL feminist haters.

 

[~Kinggi~]

Kick starter still haven't pulled this?

When I get home I'm half tempted to make a kick starter to support me going to University, I wonder how fast it will be pulled.

If it stays up much longer ill bet she has ties to someone corrupt at KS.

 

[Monroeski]

I finally watched the video.

I prefer this one.

 

[Takao]

If it stays up much longer ill bet she has ties to someone corrupt at KS.

#secretsociety

 

[Aquamarine]

Not a $10k tier, but a $100k tier. I don't want to live in a college dorm and eat cafeteria food. I need a nice apartment and lobster and cavier every day. It will help to create an environment for me that is suitable for writing a book.

Oh and if you donate the $100k tier, you get to personally meet me and I will give you a handshake if you are male, a hug if you are female and a photo op as well. But you must provide the camera.

I hope a personal apology from an EVIL man comes with this $100,000 tier. Otherwise it just isn't worth it.

 

[moka]

#secretsociety

It's OK guys, I've got this.

I sent a strongly worded tweet to KS.

 

[Synth_floyd]

Someone should troll this by doing the $10k donation and then pulling it before the deadline.

 

[LukeTim]

It is difficult to believe that she is genuinely a multimillionaire entrepreneur when her own crowd-funding website is so amateur. http://www.fundher.com/

Perhaps she couldn't raise enough on Kickstarter to pay a decent WebDev.

 

[moka]

It is difficult to believe that she is genuinely a multimillionaire entrepreneur when her own crowd-funding website is so amateur. http://www.fundher.com/

Perhaps she couldn't raise enough on Kickstarter to pay a decent WebDev.

I'd honestly be willing to re-do this crappy website for a fraction of the cost I normally charge.

Spoiler

Around £200k should do it.

 

[Omni]

I made an account just to report it.

Am I a bad person?

 

[GooeyHeat]

Aaaaaaaaaaand reported. This is silly.

@randomrosso Nah, you're doing the right thing.

 

[LukeTim]

I'd honestly be willing to re-do this crappy website for a fraction of the cost I normally charge.

Spoiler

Around £200k should do it.

I'd happily re-do it for free in my spare time... I hate seeing shitty websites cluttering up the interwebs.

 

[BearPawB]

What are people reporting it for? It isn't like it is a kickstarter rule that you have to be poor to use it...

 

[Aquamarine]

I made an account just to report it.

Am I a bad person?

Yes, you're an anti-feminist children hater who want women to be dumb and ignorant and never succeed in life. DUMB AND IGNORANT!!1!!!one!1!

 

[KingItachi]

I made an account just to report it.

Am I a bad person?

No. As the saying goes a fool and his money is soon parted.

 

[moka]

I'd happily re-do it for free in my spare time... I hate seeing shitty websites cluttering up the interwebs.

Apparently it was made on Wix.com, could explain why it's so crap.

What are people reporting it for? It isn't like it is a kickstarter rule that you have to be poor to use it...

This whole thread. Read it.

 

[LukeTim]

I made an account just to report it.

Am I a bad person?

I did the same, pal. Regardless of the little kid, who I do feel sorry for in all of this, this thing is against KS TOS and the mother should have known better...

 

[GooeyHeat]

What are people reporting it for? It isn't like it is a kickstarter rule that you have to be poor to use it...

It's a charity project, basically, because it's about getting money to send a girl to camp, not to offer a product or service. Charity projects are, in fact, against Kickstarter rules.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

What are people reporting it for? It isn't like it is a kickstarter rule that you have to be poor to use it...

It is a kickstarter rule that you can't use it to pay for tuition or without a specific project/product in mind.

 

[Spwn]

What are people reporting it for? It isn't like it is a kickstarter rule that you have to be poor to use it...

From Kickstarter Project Guidelines:

Prohibited uses:
No charity or cause funding.
Examples of prohibited use include raising money for the Red Cross, funding an awareness campaign, funding a scholarship, or promoting the donation of funds raised, or future profits, to a charity or cause.

No "fund my life" projects.
Examples include projects to pay tuition or bills, go on vacation, or buy a new camera.

edit: The war in the comments section of the ks project is interesting to read. The vocal supporters sound almost like Chris Crocker.

 

[mattiewheels]

The only way I could see this as okay is if the lady never intended to go through with taking the funding, canceling it early and using the amount of support to prove "something" to her demon spawn. I have a feeling that wasn't the plan, but she'll pull it and say it was...

 

[LukeTim]

Apparently it was made on Wix.com, could explain why it's so crap.

Oh god. Those build-your-own-site sites are responsible for so much terrible crap.

 

[Orca]

https://twitter.com/FundHer/status/306758310764351488

BOYCOTTING Skechers! New line of wedged sneaker heels for girls called Daddy's Money? It's 2013! Beyond BAD messaging! Shame on @SkechersUSA

She'd have been fine with calling them Kickstarter's Money I guess.

 

[YouEnjoyMySelf]

http://www.fundher.com/#!give/cplk

Insert random cute animals + smiley faces in disclaimers and other absurdities to get stupid people's money

 

[inky]

What are people reporting it for? It isn't like it is a kickstarter rule that you have to be poor to use it...

Read the thread?

 

[BearPawB]

From Kickstarter Project Guidelines:

Prohibited uses:
No charity or cause funding.
Examples of prohibited use include raising money for the Red Cross, funding an awareness campaign, funding a scholarship, or promoting the donation of funds raised, or future profits, to a charity or cause.

No "fund my life" projects.
Examples include projects to pay tuition or bills, go on vacation, or buy a new camera.

And i don't think 800 bucks to go to a game camp fits in the "fund my life".
It is not their fault that people went well above the $800. The actual money they asked for fits within the guidelines...If i kickstarted me making a game, and as part of that, bought new equipment/did some more training to make that game. That doesn't count as "funding my life"

I get what you are saying. It seems completely wrong to have tiers that are higher than your goal...like that is kind of messed up. But i don't know if the core project is really against those rules

 

[moka]

Oh god. Those build-your-own-site sites are responsible for so much terrible crap.

I remember arguing this exact point one time with some guy online and he was actually trying to convince me that using Wix.com is better than creating websites yourself via code. I didn't know what to say so I just abandoned the whole conversation.

 

[Goon Boon]

Someone totally noticed something with the character sheet :

They erased an E where the misspelled U in neutral (nuetral) is to intentionally make it more incorrect/childish/endearing. Neat.

 

[LukeTim]

I remember arguing this exact point one time with some guy online and he was actually trying to convince me that using Wix.com is better than creating websites yourself via code. I didn't know what to say so I just abandoned the whole conversation.

I suspect he had never built his own site with code, and therefore didn't understand the massive advantages?

 

[Jac_Solar]

The thing is that it would be easy to fake and spoof your books unless you hire a certified accountant. This would probably raise the price of your kickstarter.

The golden rule with Kickstarter was always to use your brain before donating and this has not changed. Give money to people that have a track record for releasing products and manufacturing and shipping physical goods. Read the project's page, look for the amount asked and think if it makes sense.

I doubt anyone in this thread donated to that scam...

I've never donated to a Kickstarter. There are several decent, reasonable projects that I don't mind at all, but stuff like this is extreme. Who would donate to such a project? Who are these people?

Even so, there's a loophole where any extra money they get from the KS is just extra money that they can do whatever they want with.

KS really needs to make it clear that, regardless of how much they get, they need to spend it on the project. The authors should be allowed to put a cap on the project, so the intentions of certain projects are totally clear, since some projects can easily make use of extra money, while some can't.

That, and KS needs to hire more people to monitor the projects that go through.

 

[Kade]

Someone totally noticed something with the character sheet :

They erased an E where the misspelled U in neutral (nuetral) is to intentionally make it more incorrect/childish/endearing. Neat.

The numbers are also written differently. Look at the twos in the character info and stats.

 

[Spwn]

And i don't think 800 bucks to go to a game camp fits in the "fund my life".
It is not their fault that people went well above the $800. The actual money they asked for fits within the guidelines...

It does fit in that just the same way as the example of buying a new camera.

And I don't think $800 was ever the goal, but I guess it doesn't matter what I think.

 

[moka]

I suspect he had never built his own site with code, and therefore didn't understand the massive advantages?

Well, he told me he did but I guess you can't believe everything you see on the Internet, ey?

 

[Synth_floyd]

And i don't think 800 bucks to go to a game camp fits in the "fund my life".
It is not their fault that people went well above the $800. The actual money they asked for fits within the guidelines...

I get what you are saying. It seems completely wrong to have tiers that are higher than your goal...like that is kind of messed up. But i don't know if the core project is really against those rules

Not sure if serious but the kickstarter is to PAY TUITION for the camp. And then there's this vague promise of a game being produced. But there's no info about the game whatsoever. No story, no characters, no concepts or ideas about what she wants to put in this game.

 

[Durante]

It is a kickstarter rule that you can't use it to pay for tuition or without a specific project/product in mind.

Exactly -- and not just that, it has to be a clearly defined project. Furthermore, you are not allowed to spam twitter. I made sure to mention both when I reported it.

 

[Bedlam]

Someone totally noticed something with the character sheet :

They erased an E where the misspelled U in neutral (nuetral) is to intentionally make it more incorrect/childish/endearing. Neat.

The numbers are also written differently. Look at the twos in the character info and stats.

Susan tried really hard. But yes, it's obvious that most of that is not the handwriting of a 9-year-old girl.

edit: "@Susan As a father of two girls you inspire me. I know its already been said but it needs to be repeated. You are an amazing parent! Never let an opportunity teach you kids pass you by.

When I had my second daughter members of my own family, some of them women, asks if I was going to try again to have a boy. As if two girls was not good enough, as if we had somehow gotten it wrong the first two times. These attitudes are so engrained in our culture that we need some major shocks to the system to set it right. So go on Momma shock the system!

I look forward to playing Mackenzie's game with my girls and telling them how it came to be."

 

[BearPawB]

It does fit in that just the same way as the example of buying a new camera.

And I don't think $800 was ever the goal, but I guess it doesn't matter what I think.

It doesn't matter if you think it was the goal. It was their goal. It would have been successful with only $800. Its not like they asked for $20,000.

And i don't think its the same as saying, "kick start me buying a camera". I could create a kicstarter called, "help me create this fantastic photography exhibit!". And as part of that, i buy a new lens to take pictures. Get better supplies. What do you expect people to do with the money if not spend it on stuff.

The rule is to stop people from simply saying, "kickstart me a pizza" or "A new computer would be sweet".

Her the girl is trying to create a game..and as part of that she needs to go to camp/get a computer (allegedly). There have been tons of kickstarters just like this that have been funded.

 

[Clockwork]

And i don't think 800 bucks to go to a game camp fits in the "fund my life".

You wouldn't consider that tuition?

 

[cluxdeluxe]

w

 

[Diablohead]

Something makes me think kickstarter will let this slip, since they get a slice of the pie and this pie is already 22k strong and still being cooked!

Reported it anyway, seems wrong.

 

[BearPawB]

Not sure if serious but the kickstarter is to PAY TUITION for the camp. And then there's this vague promise of a game being produced. But there's no info about the game whatsoever. No story, no characters, no concepts or ideas about what she wants to put in this game.

Camp fees is hardly tuition. Tuition=academic.
I am not saying it is a good kickstarter, or that anyone should have paid them a dime.
But I am still not clear that it is full against their rules as defined. I reported it just like the rest of you, i am just saying I would be shocked if they took it down

Blame the people who funded it. They are the fools. If you didn't fund it then good on you for being smart.

 

[Kade]

Susan tried really hard. But yes, it's obvious that most of that is not the handwriting of a 9-year-old girl.

The lack of horizontally flipped letters made it pretty unconvincing.