If you are gonna report it select the spam option and post this picture, there have been many projects that have been obvious charities and they have allowed them because its not very clear and cut.
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Millionaire tries to get $829 via kickstarter to send daughter to RPG maker camp?
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statham
Member
you guys should upvote this reddit links to try to make front page.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1awnzx/so_you_know_that_kickstarter_for_the_girl_who/
http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1awr1n/millionaire_using_kickstarter_to_send_her/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1awnzx/so_you_know_that_kickstarter_for_the_girl_who/
http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1awr1n/millionaire_using_kickstarter_to_send_her/
Yeah, regardless of the economic situation of the family, this already seemed extremely shady to me simply because it appears to be designed to push exactly those buttons which have been successful on kickstarter before (RPGs, "hardcore gaming" and the representation of women in games), while also adding the "aww" twist of using a young girl.
Of course, that they are actually in a position where they don't need the money in any way, shape or form just makes it all the more egregious. It's basically a tailor-made exploitative kickstarter proposal. Disgusting.
A normal middle-class family would earmark money to allow their daughter to go to this camp. They'd be out $829, while Ms. Wilson is already up $21,933. "I didn't get rich by signing checks" indeed.
Mikey Jr.
Member
These kickstarter donators are so fucking naive.
I truly hope, beyond all hope, that the little girl does nothing with the money in the end, and in 1 year, the mom posts a pic of herself driving her new car with the words "Thanks Kickstarter!"
Please God in Heaven make this happen. Please! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!!!!
I truly hope, beyond all hope, that the little girl does nothing with the money in the end, and in 1 year, the mom posts a pic of herself driving her new car with the words "Thanks Kickstarter!"
Please God in Heaven make this happen. Please! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!!!!
ShockingAlberto
Member
This has officially gone off the rails and looped back in to being dumb.
Synth_floyd
Banned
First, why did anyone give money? Second, why does anyone give money after the goal has been met? It's not like it's a creative project where they can use the extra money to improve what they're making. It's paying for tuition at a camp which is a set amount. What are they going to do with all the extra money?
Some people must hate their money. That's all I got.
Hah good catch, i doubt this little girl even wanted to go to this camp, or if she is even real.
Because this is a movement. It's not about "money" it's about supporting the movement. It's why this lady has been able to play the community so badly and take so much. This isn't logical. Also, it's set up that if you're against giving money to this little girl you're obviously a cynical anti-woman jerk.
I say let her take these idiots for as much money as she can. They deserve it.
Karsticles
Member
Exactly.
I'm not saying that people with money are "bad". I'm saying they're willing to exploit the foolishness of others.
Swim in it whilst laughing boisterously at the chumps who willingly gave it to them.
partyphone
Banned
Heh. The neanderthals at the MRA subreddit make GAF trolls look downright progressive.
YouEnjoyMySelf
Banned
This is fucking disgusting and reeks of bullshit. People who funded this should be forced to donate twice the amount to a real cause.
IrishNinja
Member
I'm honestly convinced that there's a number of people who are convinced they're fighting sexism by throwing money at this KS.
Want me to post anything? I'm the guy she responded to. (I must not forget to cancel my pledge later so I get my dollar back)
Absolutely. And while those people are the ones primarily to blame for that, it's undeniable that the whole KS is designed to engender
(I'm killing myself)
Eventually, I'd love to see some kind of documentary or article interviewing adults who were exploited as children in viral videos and photos by their parents. Psychology must be busy trying to get a grip on what its like having a person's entire development shared with the world for entertainment, money, or even good intentions by impressed parents.
IrishNinja
Member
ah, that's you then? nah man, you're quite concise & i can't think of much to add. shame she's not addressing a specific point of yours at all, but it's great that she managed to take a snide shot & namedrop instead.
And you dont see anything wrong with that ?
moka
Member
Sweet Jesus.
Where does it end with this woman?
Ask her about some of the stuff we've discussed to death in this thread.
Well if Brenda Romero suggested you add a personal apology for $10,000 I guess it's all okay then! She's an expert on $10,000 apologies! I mean ... what?
She wrote a lot, but actually didn't address any of the real points that people have. Like, at all.
[EDIT]And yeah, I just realized she name-dropped John Romero's wife. This just keeps getting better and better.
Too much, my sides, they hurt from laughter.
She wrote a lot, but actually didn't address any of the real points that people have. Like, at all.
[EDIT]And yeah, I just realized she name-dropped John Romero's wife. This just keeps getting better and better.
Too much, my sides, they hurt from laughter.
LOL.
She is right tho, people are entitled to burn their money away of they so desire. Projects like this is why I decided to cancel my KS account and said, fuck it, if they want to approve garbage without proper screening I have no use for their services, I'll just find other ways to support what I think are worthwhile projects.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
"MOOOOOOM Jimmy and Johnny say I can't make a video game, can I have money to go to RPG camp?"
"No dear, I'm not just going to give you money for that, you have to learn how to make your way in the world and earn things for yourself."
"So should I make a lemonade stand, or cut grass or maybe start a dog walking business?"
"Don't be silly, we'll just go earn the money by asking strangers for it on the internet."
"No dear, I'm not just going to give you money for that, you have to learn how to make your way in the world and earn things for yourself."
"So should I make a lemonade stand, or cut grass or maybe start a dog walking business?"
"Don't be silly, we'll just go earn the money by asking strangers for it on the internet."
It does.
Supportive backers are suggesting the game at the end is 'a project' by Kickstarter's definiton, and thus can be backed. But it's not a standalone venture. It's a a byproduct of tuition. And she straight up says the money is to cover the cost of the course.
If this passes, any KS to raise money to cover tuition can pass, as long as you wrap up artefacts of your education (your essays, your art portfolio, your final coding exercises etc.) as 'a project'.
Her first kickstarter asked for 20k and only got $400, while her one asking for $829 got over 20k, so it may be worth it to ask for far less than you want.
Do you have a daughter you could use as a emotional device for donations?
IrishNinja
Member
haha wow, thread keeps on giving - she's just so very busy
i think between that, twitter spam & one other objection here i wanna say we've found at least 2 if not 3 solid violations, and yet
statham
Member
That's exactly how I interpreted it also. "Please Kickstart my $100,000 MFA degree. Everything I produce is 'a project,' and I will share pictures."
I have a dog. I could propose that browsing gaf instead of playing with my dog makes him unhappy. I'll need at least $500 to make my dog happy.
CambriaRising
Member
Absolutely shameless.
Tylahedras
Banned
"My name is Mackenzie Wilson and I'm 9 but because you have to be 18 to have a project on Kickstarter, I'm partnering with my mom, Susan Wilson who told me to say she's 29 but I made her a birthday cake last week so I know she's 43."
Right off the bat I'm supposed to believe this was written by a nine year old? Must be "creative licence"
It's what her daughter WOULD HAVE SAID. Uh huh... *Nods head incredulously
Right off the bat I'm supposed to believe this was written by a nine year old? Must be "creative licence"
It's what her daughter WOULD HAVE SAID. Uh huh... *Nods head incredulously
Mr.Awesome
Banned
Don't really see the problem with it. Kickstarter is designed around people, often rich, taking advantage of the public. Just using the system.
maquiladora
Member
Nothing surprises me anymore.
That's a really cynical attitude to have, considering the huge variety of great, deserving projects on KS.
Kickstarter gets a cut from the money right? No wonder that they're hesitant.
Susan Wilson said:
This just blows my mind. So "industry leaders," including John Romero's wife, were contacting this family to make sure they added $10,000 reward options that humiliate the two boys?
This either is a lie, or it reflects really poorly on "industry leaders." Shows how much they value our money if they want $10,000 to go towards a 9 year old's RPG, even though the family are multi-millionaires.
This whole thing is too ridiculous to believe. So many things that she has yet to address still.
Outside of Mozart, a nine year old is not going to make a good anything.
I like the Mom encouraging her daughter, but don't say she's even gonna make a competant game, because she will not.
Can we get an apology when the game sucks?
It's fine if the game sucks. That's called learning.
Even if she is some kind of prodigy, she'll just be good relative to her peers. I'm sure 9 year old LeBron was great as basketball. I'm also sure if you put us on the half-court with 8' rims, I would have destroyed him.
I like the Mom encouraging her daughter, but don't say she's even gonna make a competant game, because she will not.
Can we get an apology when the game sucks?
It's fine if the game sucks. That's called learning.
Even if she is some kind of prodigy, she'll just be good relative to her peers. I'm sure 9 year old LeBron was great as basketball. I'm also sure if you put us on the half-court with 8' rims, I would have destroyed him.
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