Zen_Arcade
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It was a joke, but there are people that dont have the internet for reasons besides affordability.
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Xbox One practically unusable without day one update
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KennyLinder
Member
My friends parents live in one of the most expensive parts of the UK, in a HUGE house etc and the best internet they can get is 0.5mbps. Fucked up. A gamer wanting a modern console living down that street would be screwed.
Do you really think this an ideal implementation that anyone should be endorsing? Baseline functionality for every game console that has come before it is OTOB plug and play gaming. How does this improve upon that baseline functionality in any way?
PapaJustify
Member
Also, I don't get why it was impossible for them to get at least basic functionally into the production software since their 180 in May.
I now have an image of a lonely server somewhere near Redmond, being kept in a Fritzl-style dungeon.
Clockwork5
Member
Way to reach for the top. Have fun hanging out with that "baseline" functionality of any system released after 2005...
Ludicrous Speed
Banned
So he just made that statistic up?
Okay never mind. Just looked at his post history. He obviously has an agenda.
SymbiantXenos
Member
The patch should take me around 3 mins or so
Caayn
Member
So the kid as a TV with HDMI support and 499 of savings, but there's absolutely no internet connection whatsoever? Why do I not believe such a setting.
paradise_circus
Member
Don't the retail games contain the day-1 patch?
mentallyinept
Banned
Depends on when the game went gold and when the patch is complete I would guess.
KennyLinder
Member
No, because they are submitted before the final OS is ready.
Zoe
Member
They can't force people to create a Live account if they did that.
Yeah they do, they're called Starbucks.
I'm glad you took the time to take a screenshot and host the image. Too bad it doesn't really answer the question.
The article says it requires a day 1 patch. It doesn't say exactly for what nor states that the xbone can do nothing witthout it.
Albert Penello says in the article when pressed that the Xbox can do "nothing" without it.
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
Let me tell you a story.
My friend owns a bar. He had a private party and asked me to rent a movie to play on his PS3 hooked up to his projector. I rented Men In Black 3 Bluray. We put it in his PS3 and it wouldn't play. We had to download an update first but he doesn't have wifi at his bar. I ended up having to get a movie on DVD.
In conclusion, it's 2013, get an internet connection.
My friend owns a bar. He had a private party and asked me to rent a movie to play on his PS3 hooked up to his projector. I rented Men In Black 3 Bluray. We put it in his PS3 and it wouldn't play. We had to download an update first but he doesn't have wifi at his bar. I ended up having to get a movie on DVD.
In conclusion, it's 2013, get an internet connection.
KennyLinder
Member
The Xbox One does not ship with an OS. The end.
dragonelite
Member
UPC in the Netherlands im in a rural part even.
WoolyNinja
Member
Is it like Sony and the PS4 where the user can call a # to order a disc update instead?
Clockwork5
Member
It does depend on the population you study... If you are looking at middle class to upper class, then no, you really can't tell where someone is on that spectrum based on their internet accessibility once you add people who are on the poorer end of the spectrum, there is a definite statistical significance. (stats minor here and used internet accessibility as a variable in a study of voter trends)
I'd assume that all the launch games will have the patch pressed onto the disc.
I don't think it's ideal, but I also don't think it's a big deal for the vast majority of users. I'm probably the wrong person for you to discuss this with, as I don't actually care if people without internet connections can play the XB1 or not, and wasn't particularly bothered by the product before they did the 180.
As to "baseline functionality" of game consoles, I don't really give a shit about that either. This console, coming out now, was designed to be used with an internet connection. If you don't have one, or don't want a connected box, buy a PS4 or a WiiU.
Once upon a time, consoles didn't require HD TVs to not look like shit. Now they do. Things change. If you don't like the changes, no one is requiring you to support them.
dragonelite
Member
What microsoft and sony should do is release software that can make an boot usb or bluray. So people can download it at an friends house or at an other place.
NothingStopsThisTrain
Neo Member
A least with PS4 you will be able to play a game while it updates in the background. Nothing worse than waiting for 15 minutes before you can use your new console on launch day.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
Any comment on installing the update via USB? Or would that functionality need the update too?
I was under the impression that you couldnt play games without the update. this is saying it can do nothing. was there confirmation before that it could do nothing?
Clockwork5
Member
As a proud owner of a wiiu (i really do love it)I would prefer a bricked x1 to the mess that is "baseline" Wii u.
Caayn
Member
No, from the first time that this update was announced Microsoft has always said that this update is "required".
cripterion
Member
I disagree, it's easy to get lost between the shit threads made by haters and the real deal. I for one didn't know about this, I can live with that but I can't sit here and say this stuff doesn't matter.
Also the fact that they are working on this till the last minute isn't reassuring either cause you never know what issues or bugs might crop up in the latest revision.
Not similar at all. The PS4 patch is predominantly for online features, but its main purpose, namely playing games, remains intact offline, so people without immediate broadband access can still play their SP campaigns. On Xbone you've essentially bought a brick if you don't have online access, unless the Day 1 patch was added to the game discs.
I'll reach for what I can as opposed to digging deeper into the muck. I appreciate there's a certain tradeoff here for modern systems with network connectivity but hardware that's essentially bricked in the most fundamental way possible without a day 1 patch is simply not competent system design. Why would you endorse that?
See above. Change is fine, specifically change that results in actual progress - i.e. build on what works and improve it.
Simply trying fob this off as concern trolling is inappropriately dismissive.
KennyLinder
Member
Identical.
maquiladora
Member
The update is related to changes that need to be made to the OS after the DRM 180, it's not a performance update.
so nobody questioned what the system is capable of doing without this update? just seems very odd that you cant watch a bluray without this update.
dreamer3kx
Member
yes, you can play a game before updating.
Yeah I know.
I was just responding to all the people acting like it's been well known for months that the X1 could do literally nothing without the day 1 patch when it was actually never explicitly stated ( as far as I know) until the article posted in the OP.
Anyways I dont give a shit actually, not planning to get a Xbone.
Aretak
Member
Yeah, I noticed all those horrible anti-Xbox sites like Engadget and IGN have this story on their front pages too. When will this unjustified FUD war against poor Microsoft end?!
opticalmace
Member
You can play while downloading as well.
dragonelite
Member
Same box if microsoft is to be believed they said every retail unit can act as an debug unit.
Have they disclosed how big the patch size is?
Sometime in the year 2014.... ;-)