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Harmy's Despecialized Editions of the Original Star Wars Trilogy
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Hero_of_the_Day
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Rimfya said:
I gave up looking once I saw the guys actual thread with pics of some of his changes. He is actually restoring some errors that were fixed in the SE's such as lightsaber props in scenes instead of glowing. I hate the things that were added/changed in the SE's, not things that were just fixed. That's a whole different level of goofy to me.
Hero_of_the_Day
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mattp said:
Right, agreed. Just bugs me that someone would go back and "fix" it so a prop is seen instead of an actual ligthsaber. I already have the 2006 DVD's, so if we are going that route I'm already good to go.
it was sort of a nostalgia overload watching it for me. this is how i watched the movies when i was a kid(flaws and all). so i like it.
also, they're way better quality than those crappy laserdisc rips. he did a pretty good job of splicing in hd footage, upscaling the non hd stuff, fixing colors etc
i think it looks great
also, they're way better quality than those crappy laserdisc rips. he did a pretty good job of splicing in hd footage, upscaling the non hd stuff, fixing colors etc
i think it looks great
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Yeah looking at the YouTube samples he did is triggering the same nostalgia in me too.mattp said:
It's good to see something like this being done.
I would say that the addition of Yavin to the background of the first Death Star battle in Adywan's version was miles better than any change Lucas ever made, really incredible to see. Unfortunately, I'd still prefer the originals due to some of the other crap he put in too (the prequel music being the #1 offender).
I would say that the addition of Yavin to the background of the first Death Star battle in Adywan's version was miles better than any change Lucas ever made, really incredible to see. Unfortunately, I'd still prefer the originals due to some of the other crap he put in too (the prequel music being the #1 offender).
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
The technicolor print is pretty much the holy grail. Only a hand full were ever made, as Technicolor had shut down in North America by the time Star Wars was released. It was still around in Britain, however.
History aside, technicolor prints are MUCH more durable than 35mm prints of films, which is much more common and could be found on ebay every so often. 35mm prints, over time, turn pink no matter how well you treat them, and due to age and usage, are also scratched/damaged beyond repair.
Technicolor prints, on the other hand, are pretty much invincible. The colors don't change, or even fade. Which is why those shots from a camera in the audience of a theatre look so spectacular.
If the community could get their hands on a technicolor print, scan it and restore it, we would have a truly remarkable transfer of Star Wars on our hands. Unfortunately, that's damn near impossible for many reasons. Also, technicolor prints were not made of Empire or Jedi =(
Man, I just spent like 10 minutes looking at the comparison shots for ANH. I started on the special edition VHS when I was a kid, though I watched the original once at my granddad's, never before have i realised how much shit was pointlessly added.
For example:
And SOOO many others.
I'd deal with Yub Nub to see all this shit GONE.
For example:
And SOOO many others.
I'd deal with Yub Nub to see all this shit GONE.
Dice
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I have all the Star Wars movies on DVD in the 2006 sets. I don't mind the special editions. The only things that really bother me are Greedo shooting (don't care about Han's pride/swag, it just doesn't make sense, how did he miss?) and the ghosts at the end of RotJ.
Neuromancer
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Are you suggesting Lucas would have such people killed, and their deaths made to look like an accident?Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
Edit: because I would almost believe it
An associate who has seen Ep. IV of these said that it looked amazing, but had a LOT of artifacting going on during playback. Anyone else heard of this?
I'm half tempted to get out the LD player just so I can watch them again, but I'm afraid my eyes might burn out due to it showing it's age.
I'm half tempted to get out the LD player just so I can watch them again, but I'm afraid my eyes might burn out due to it showing it's age.
i think the hd tv broadcast version was used for a lot of it, so i guess there's no way around the artifacting. they're in the source
but honestly, they look better than my 2004 dvds and they're the real cuts of the movies. so i am perfectly happy with these until(if) we get real blu-ray releases
but honestly, they look better than my 2004 dvds and they're the real cuts of the movies. so i am perfectly happy with these until(if) we get real blu-ray releases
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Neuromancer said:
No...well..no, mostly having the print seized, but potentially also a civil suit (settlement) or though unlikely criminal charges
Far more 1 and 2, and mostly only 1, but if someone tried to use it to make their own version as transfer and then selling and distributing 2 becomes very likely and possibly even 3.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Depends on the situation.Jay Sosa said:
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
isn't the concert designed to overlay the original concert? In the OT they had that spindly leg muppet with the long mouth and big lips - they've just put in an OTT CG version thats probably too big in the frame to ensure it covers over the old one on the print. So its not 'adding' anything, its more like redoing the original physical effects with CG ones. Badly.
Cow Mengde
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Cindres said:For example:
Is it so wrong that I like the fudgeless shot of the Landspeeder? The fudge under the thing always bothered me back then and it still does now. Not to mention we've seen other shots where the fudge wasn't there including the shot of the approach. Then sudden boom, fudge.
Unless the person who owns the print also happens to own some very expensive film scanning equipment, what's the incentive for them to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars to have the film scanned and then release it on the Internet? Sure, we'd love it, but they'd probably get sued for the effort.DeathNote said:
A 4K or 6K scan of one of those long-lost prints would be incredible, but I think it would be too expensive to come from anyone but an official source.
Cow Mengde said:
Absolutely not, removing actual flaws like that from the originals is a great idea, in my opinion. It's the huge fucking CG dinosaur they decided to add that annoys people.
I have to thank the OP for introducing me to these fan restorations (and of course Harmy for doing the work), maybe one day fans will get a true restoration of the original films.
The replies here make me wonder how many of you have actually seen the original, VHS, or laserdisc versions. Obi Wan's lightsaber was a "dot", everyone noticed that back in the day.
What is the reason for this version when the THX laserdisc rips are already available? Why go through all this effort?
What is the reason for this version when the THX laserdisc rips are already available? Why go through all this effort?
show me your skeleton
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sorry to be that guy but how can i watch/extract the .iso files on a mac without burning to disc? of course i always could burn them but it'd be rather counterproductive, haha.
show me your skeleton
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it just opens up to a load of folders with stuff inside. dvd player won't run it, toast doesn't seem to want to do anything either. hmmm.kharma45 said:
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