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Player's that don't use mics in MP centric games ruin them
- Thread starter jviggy43
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This is precisely why co-op among personal, real-world friends is one of my main venues for online play.
Primethius
Banned
I'm gonna go play a ranked game of Siege right now without a mic.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Ok like the person who brought up mute players, I very obviously am not talking about players who have a language barrier. Like why would anyone assume I was targeting people with obvious barriers? Thats silly.
Then there's no one to talk to.
Chainsawkitten
Member
So you want:
- To apply no selection process to your team whatsoever.
- Your teammates should meet your standards.
at the same time?
- To apply no selection process to your team whatsoever.
- Your teammates should meet your standards.
at the same time?
PedroLumpy
Member
No excuse is even necessary. No one 'owes' it to anyone else to use a mic, it's ridiculous. You probably have a better chance asking Blizzard to make a 'mics only' playlist.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
The past few times I've played Overwatch, I haven't bothered putting on a headset. I know my job on the team, and I did it without fail. I guess I'm still part of the problem, but most people don't seem to bother talking anyways so why bother?
Nowhere in this thread did I say that not using a mic makes you an asshole. If anything I've said the opposite. I said people who are actively being jerks online through voice chat is a well known, well documented problem and those people are the ones ruining it for everyone, and I'd rather not use voice chat than deal with those types of people.
Exactly. Which is why I find it laughable that people have an issue with the fact that I'd rather leave the voice channel than deal with their clownshoes behavior.
yukimeans_snow
Member
I'd rather take my chances with muted strangers, than hear a potential torrent of unpleasantness over the mic.
Mr. Phellps
Member
I also mute everyone.
Fight me irl OP
Fight me irl OP
Eh, we can go back and forth on this all day long but theres a reason why the best players in any MP team competitive game are constantly yelling things out and communicating, because its absolutely super beneficial for success.
I do not expect that from randoms what so ever and I do not think that communication will make it so you win all the time. What I am saying is, communication is an obvious benefit for success in competitive MP games when its working. I understand people are toxic and can be detrimental to a team's success, but theres no denying that talking and planning with your team benefits your odds of winning.
During the early years of XBL, I kept my Mic on all the time, and tried to speak to and back at everyone. EVERYONE. Those guys who'd insult you in Mech Assault... the people who'd ask for help on DOA Ultimate... eesh.
Now-a-days... no. Blame the way that "everyone" online is a swear-spewing, insult-laden, anonymity-is-power type. Or the fact that playing drunk or high seems to be a preferred method to playing games for a large amount of the audience.
In modern games, I'll let my gameplay, and others reactions to it, be my screening process. If someone messages after a few rounds, and honestly wants to start a group or such, then yeah, maybe.
You can say a lot through gameplay itself. I've had better teamwork with certain randoms in an OW by never speaking to them, than I have with some friends I've known and speak to for years. Teamwork starts from observation and reaction, no spouting off words.
If anything, I think the "ease" of universal talk options makes devs forego in-game / universe communication options, which is a shame.
One of the reasons I loved PSO was how it had an army of quick-to-access text terms that would be automatically translated into the language of other players. You could even set up your own macros beforehand, using words from a list, and it's translate the stuff for you.
The closest stuff I see to this now-a-days is the team character voice chat in SMITE. In their case, I'd actually say having the in-game characters voicing out your desires and such increases the game immersion, much more than hearing someone player's voice say it.
Now-a-days... no. Blame the way that "everyone" online is a swear-spewing, insult-laden, anonymity-is-power type. Or the fact that playing drunk or high seems to be a preferred method to playing games for a large amount of the audience.
In modern games, I'll let my gameplay, and others reactions to it, be my screening process. If someone messages after a few rounds, and honestly wants to start a group or such, then yeah, maybe.
You can say a lot through gameplay itself. I've had better teamwork with certain randoms in an OW by never speaking to them, than I have with some friends I've known and speak to for years. Teamwork starts from observation and reaction, no spouting off words.
If anything, I think the "ease" of universal talk options makes devs forego in-game / universe communication options, which is a shame.
One of the reasons I loved PSO was how it had an army of quick-to-access text terms that would be automatically translated into the language of other players. You could even set up your own macros beforehand, using words from a list, and it's translate the stuff for you.
The closest stuff I see to this now-a-days is the team character voice chat in SMITE. In their case, I'd actually say having the in-game characters voicing out your desires and such increases the game immersion, much more than hearing someone player's voice say it.
PlumCantaloupe
Member
Wish I could but, at least on consoles, the player atmosphere is just far too toxic. Young children screaming at "hackers" is just not my idea of a good time. Sometimes it is funny to listen to though 
AudioEppa
Member
i agree OP.
Yeah it could get super annoying, but you know what? MP was a lot funnier then, compared to now. Now it's luck to be in a game that doesn't feel dead.
I think party chat is boring. That's all my friends list wants to use and I stay away. I understand some people are hurt by the things others say. It's not ok to feel that way when trying to have fun. I just don't let shit get to me. I say nothing or talk shit back or do something in game to piss them off more lol
Yeah it could get super annoying, but you know what? MP was a lot funnier then, compared to now. Now it's luck to be in a game that doesn't feel dead.
I think party chat is boring. That's all my friends list wants to use and I stay away. I understand some people are hurt by the things others say. It's not ok to feel that way when trying to have fun. I just don't let shit get to me. I say nothing or talk shit back or do something in game to piss them off more lol
Daw you're too kind <3
ubersticky
Member
I feel like people who play OW should know what to do with or without a mic. I dont feel like communicating would solve anything. Its common sense to wait for your group to attack together rather than people just going in alone or in pairs. This is what makes this game so frustrating. You cant carry a team with one or two people like in a game like uncharted or tlou.
However in Friday 13th this is frustrating because u have no way of knowing what your teammates have. There should be an in gsme option somehow to see what others have. Or like in game promts for communicating or something. Not everybody wants to use mic with randoms. A simple "got car key/fuse/battery/gas" command as a question or statement would be nice.
However in Friday 13th this is frustrating because u have no way of knowing what your teammates have. There should be an in gsme option somehow to see what others have. Or like in game promts for communicating or something. Not everybody wants to use mic with randoms. A simple "got car key/fuse/battery/gas" command as a question or statement would be nice.
Ive seen this used a few times and yes, YOU may know what youre doing but neither you nor your teammates are mind readers. I have no idea whats going on in your head, when you plan to ult, whether or not you see a sombra flanking, why youre out of position, etc... Knowing all of that would invariably be more helpful then wondering why our soldier just took off somewhere.
See above. I assure you just because you know how to play the character youve selected in OW in no way means communication is pointless.
chrominance
Member
I totally agree, and if your main priority is to be the best that ever was (or just very good), I totally understand why you'd want to be on voice comms. But chances are you're NOT playing with randoms at that point.
My priority, on the other hand, is to have fun playing a game I enjoy and not feel shitty about myself because someone thinks I deserve to be chewed out for not being as good as they would have been in the same role. The only way to guarantee this is to shut off all voice comms or to not play at all. By and large, I've taken the second option, but I think the first option is equally valid.
Honestly I really miss the days before party chat.
There were entire games based around the fact that you can't communicate when dead or out of range (chromehounds, original gears of war)
And more people would be on gamechat. I get the reasoning for being in your own party, people CAN be annoying. But I always felt the solution should have been easier ways to mute those people instead of locking yourself out.
It sucks when playing in a ranked, competetive game that is very teamwork oriented like Overwatch or Rainbow 6 and not being able to talk. I've even played Destiny raids with people with no mics which is awful.
and with my most anticipated game being Sea of Thieves... it worries me.
There were entire games based around the fact that you can't communicate when dead or out of range (chromehounds, original gears of war)
And more people would be on gamechat. I get the reasoning for being in your own party, people CAN be annoying. But I always felt the solution should have been easier ways to mute those people instead of locking yourself out.
It sucks when playing in a ranked, competetive game that is very teamwork oriented like Overwatch or Rainbow 6 and not being able to talk. I've even played Destiny raids with people with no mics which is awful.
and with my most anticipated game being Sea of Thieves... it worries me.
Played OW from Silver to Diamond and voice chat was only useful 2-3 times. The rest of the time it caused losses before we even left spawn. Hearing some whiny kid, "are we throwing or are we winning...oh I guess we throwing" (he didn't like someone's off meta pick) or having to listen to pre-pubes squaking or college kids bullying pre-pubes or some fool not saying anything until the end of the loss to wish everyone kys was too annoying. At the end of my OW playing I just left vc off, even in comp, and it was a lot more fun not having to listen to idiots.
Stone Ocean
Member
Communication without shotcalling is overrated and I'm sure as hell not trusting randoms with that.
OP, i'm saying this as nicely as possible: When it comes to playing a game online, I never want to hear a single thing you have to say. Never. You might be a legitimately helpful person, but for every 1 of you, there's 10 clearly stoned losers talking about how their professor is a total bitch. I'm tired of rolling the dice.
Thats true but the mute function shuts anyone up immediately and also permits you to keep communication with people who are just trying to help. Also I was more or less meaning comp, obviously if youre just playing for fun by all means I don't think anyone minds the lack of communication. I see your point about it as well, and if people don't even want to hear even a little bit of negativity, I get just muting everyone. That just also means shutting out a lot of people who could be helpful to the team's success, including yourself.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Not dealing with people being obnoxious. I dont even wanna hear them frankly. I'm cool if that ruins everyone elses experience.
How I determine if I'm going to use the mic:
Hosted server with a community of regulars: Yes
Playing with a group of friends: Yes
Random matchmaking with 15 year old asshats: No
The move from community hosted servers to matchmaking really was the nail in the coffin for voice chat for me.
Hosted server with a community of regulars: Yes
Playing with a group of friends: Yes
Random matchmaking with 15 year old asshats: No
The move from community hosted servers to matchmaking really was the nail in the coffin for voice chat for me.
really?
there's tons of crucial information that needs to be shared in overwatch ASAP, such as an enemy flanking you and being behind a teammate, where a teleporter/shield generator is, if an enemy will die to one hit so people should dive/target him, coordinating ultimates to combo them, calling out healing, etc
you are basically at a huge disadvantage if your team doesn't communicate.
Completely agree. I've totally given up on playing anything that needs communication between players.
TimeEffect
Member
How often does this happen? I swear my experience with certain games has been incredibly successful, even when Ive sucked. Rainbow 6 Siege and even Overwatch on PS4 has been mostly friendly towards me.
Maybe its worse on PC where text chat is a thing. I have heard the vilest shit on COD.
In fact, I recorded a convo once of a 20 something year old man berating a child... and then the child's dad got on and it turned into a huge racist thing. I couldn't believe it.
I know its different with women and children, especially women... I think every woman Ive heard in Overwatch was in a premade group of friends.
That said, I really have only experienced terrible stuff a handful of times in my 600 hours in Rainbow 6. I swear the community is amicable on average... but Ive never once heard a woman on mic in that game
lmao sorry people want to spend their time playing for themselves and not for you
Shadow Puppetry
Member
There are games where it is completely necessary. Friday the 13th is an excellent example of that. The game is balanced around the players communicating with each other. The first three minutes or so will (when Jason is generating powers) dictate how many players will survive the match. People need to spread out, locate parts, and cobble a basic strategy together. I played as Jason in a match where no one had a mic. I completely wiped them out. Not using mics completely destroy's the game's balance.
If you are playing a game that is focused on communication without a mic then you are unquestionably doing it wrong.
If you are playing a game that is focused on communication without a mic then you are unquestionably doing it wrong.
V
Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
I've played everything from Lost Planet 2 to Splatoon with no voicechat, and I couldn't have been happier.
JayhawkerStL
Banned
Yeah, I really what to hear the inner thoughts of douche bags that think winning a match of Overwatch or Battlefield is some kind of crucial achievement in life.
CookedChocobo
Member
If you want communication and call outs, go find a group to play with. Whining about people not talking in game chat is dumb and pointless.
BRocknRolla
Member
I'm sorry, but people being obnoxious is often the best case scenario for voice chat. Worst case, I have to listen to someone play music over their mic, or worst-worst case, hurl a bunch of sexist, bigoted, racist BS for no apparent reason.
Sorry, but I'm not going to endure that even if I could play more strategically if I did. Could I mute people? Sure, but then I'd have to listen and make those calls on the fly. I'm going to just bypass the whole mess instead.
Sorry, but I'm not going to endure that even if I could play more strategically if I did. Could I mute people? Sure, but then I'd have to listen and make those calls on the fly. I'm going to just bypass the whole mess instead.
thehellofitall
Member
Ehh. Yeah, probably. I'm still not gonna use a mic with anybody but friends, though. Why would I? Have you met gamers?
Awful.
Awful.
I do not like talking on the mic majority of the time because I do not like getting into a conversation about stupid stuff like what they had for dinner, their day is going, and the usual obnoxious conversation with man-babies. It gets so annoying most of the time I just turn the mic off almost all the time.
I put almost everyone on ignore and it becomes silent that I just turn it off. Cant stand to hear all the stupid stuff that is being said.
I put almost everyone on ignore and it becomes silent that I just turn it off. Cant stand to hear all the stupid stuff that is being said.
I'd rather not year some 12 year old call me a faggot online when I've just got home from my 9 to 5.