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Player's that don't use mics in MP centric games ruin them
- Thread starter jviggy43
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One thing I recommend to do to people that play online games is being friednly and communicating in a positive way. Your regular player is not a raging children with ego problems. Your regular player is a normal human being that doesn't talk because too many horror stories of that raging child. When you actually communicate and talk well and try help your team mates, more often than not, even when things go south, people will behave and have a good time. And if that raging child appears, just use the mute function.
ghostwritingduck
Member
I thought people blasting music and being verbally abusive over their microphones was ruining multiplayer games. Microphones make online games better with the right players, but that rarely ever happens in public matches.
StreelyDan
Member
Previous experience with voice chat in public games leads many to not even bother. Is it a shame? yeah, but it's also understandable.
mullet2000
Member
Most people do this.
You can't always get a full team together though. I usually have about 4 people grouped when I play Overwatch, for example.
The times when the other two people communicate with us go a lot better than the times they don't, on average. Without a doubt.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
I can't help but wonder how many controllers you have broken over time.
It isn't back to square one. Now I had to hear some shit and my mood changed.
In my experience, the number of times someone used the mic to be rude is way way higher than the number of times someone said something useful, so I just mute everyone by default.
it's okay to post "fuck"
I always have mine on but on occasion I mute myself when there is someone talking way too much and not really saying anything useful. Sometimes they'll try to push me into talking by harassing me and that really just proves why I don't participate.
So I keep it on and if I notice positive chat I'll join in
So I keep it on and if I notice positive chat I'll join in
NullPointer
Member
This is true enough, some of the time.
So I might go into a match with a mic, but never speak. If I hear somebody reasonable I'll start to chime in.
But I swear, every time I've done that I get some horror story in the next match. Blasting music, loud TV in the background, some kid singing, some loud back and forth conversation in the background, and of course people just slinging shit for kicks.
And rather than deal with muting I just create a party with just me in it. Instamute across all games.
Lunarwhale
Member
About the only competitive online game I play anymore is Overwatch, and even if people don't understand teamwork, mics are extremely useful for calling out enemy locations, health status, and doing some really basic coordination. It removes a layer of ambiguity from the situation - even people who are good at teamwork aren't always going to be on the same page. There's rarely one objectively correct method that's visible from all perspectives, and just calling out ult percentage isn't good enough to determine order of attack, timing, etc.
It's a lot like project management in real life. You could have the most competent group of people in the world, but if you don't touch base now and again, people are going to lose that internal calibration that's integral to success. And similarly, you're going to get the best results out of people who you've bonded with to some extent - be it close friends, or in a pinch, just chatting it up a bit pre-match and early game.
That being said, I'm sure as fuck not going to bother with mics in QP. That's just chill out time.
It's a lot like project management in real life. You could have the most competent group of people in the world, but if you don't touch base now and again, people are going to lose that internal calibration that's integral to success. And similarly, you're going to get the best results out of people who you've bonded with to some extent - be it close friends, or in a pinch, just chatting it up a bit pre-match and early game.
That being said, I'm sure as fuck not going to bother with mics in QP. That's just chill out time.
In CSGO almost everyone has mics, and for the most part yell out useful information. When you're playing CSGO you are pretty much expected to know map callouts. Whenever I join a PUB match of CSGO and only 2 people have mics, we almost always lose.
Phrozenflame500
Member
I agree... for competitive modes.
Feel free to goof around all you want in unranked/casual but it's current year 2017 and you can and should get a cheap mic for $5-10 if you're planning on playing competitively.
Feel free to goof around all you want in unranked/casual but it's current year 2017 and you can and should get a cheap mic for $5-10 if you're planning on playing competitively.
Yeah, this is pretty much why I don't talk either. During my days with the 360, my wide-eyed self would talk to everyone online, and I discovered very early what a cesspool of toxicity it is, so therefore, since then, no mic for me or strictly in a party.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
Every time this comes up, I say the same thing: you can't control the actions of strangers.
If you want better communication from your team, play with people you know are good communicators.
If you want better communication from your team, play with people you know are good communicators.
Death Penalty
Member
This has not been the case for me, and I don't have any kind of accent and am male. I can't imagine how much worse it must be for anyone who has the sort of voice that might trigger even more abuse from some of the monsters that frequent these games.
AuthenticM
Member
apostrophes, how do they work
Huge Succeeded
Banned
well then get out of the competitive playlists plz
I also play fighting games so....quite a few actually.
I don't want to listen to your voice, your daft strategies, your shitty music, your children, the sounds coming from your television. I don't even want to hear you breathe.
Losing the occasional game is a perfectly acceptable compromise for that in my opinion.
There's always in-game parties to inflict your suffering on like-minded people if you so choose. What's good about this then is that you opt-in for those irritations yourself, rather than force other players who aren't interested to tolerate them.
Edit: to be clear, by "you", I mean anybody, ever. Just so it doesn't sound too personal!
Losing the occasional game is a perfectly acceptable compromise for that in my opinion.
There's always in-game parties to inflict your suffering on like-minded people if you so choose. What's good about this then is that you opt-in for those irritations yourself, rather than force other players who aren't interested to tolerate them.
Edit: to be clear, by "you", I mean anybody, ever. Just so it doesn't sound too personal!
mullet2000
Member
And that's totally cool, sounds like the non competitive modes are your jam and that's fine.
For competitive, there's some level of teamwork expected. That's what OP is talking about.
AuthenticM
Member
Also, if communication was so important to you, you would have joined a clan long ago.
King Gilga
Member
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Less people dick around in competitive playlists so that's where I play, even though I'll never use a mic.
Honestly I do not mind THAT much if you don't talk but dammit at least listen to your teammates in ranked/competitive. I've had countless times in R6:Siege and other games where our whole team is telling the last man standing key call-outs but the guy doesn't hear us at all and gets killed in the stupidest ways. Good callouts win games.
Those complaining about obnoxious people: I don't understand why you just can't use the mute button. I guess it's due to sheer laziness.
Those complaining about obnoxious people: I don't understand why you just can't use the mute button. I guess it's due to sheer laziness.
Yes, my general distaste for people acting like assholes in competitive modes means I have issues.
Nerd_Incognito
Member
The only thing worth saying to randoms in Overwatch...
Otherwise there's no point in talking to them. The vast majority are some combination of stupid, dumb, racist, sexist, or annoying.
Private Parties or bust.
Otherwise there's no point in talking to them. The vast majority are some combination of stupid, dumb, racist, sexist, or annoying.
Private Parties or bust.
DealWithIt
Member
I think you meant to direct that to yourself.
I've played hundreds of Overwatch comp matches and I don't use a mic. The amount of times people on mic has been a big contributor to winning is a minority vs the amount of times it's just white noise captain obvious stuff, objectively wrong advice, and toxic bullshit that flat-out loses the game by tilting everyone. Those rare games won by other players with good comms is nice but I can pretty safely say I'd be at a consistently higher rank if I just muted all comms from the start (but I don't because I want to believe). Though I do have absolute zero tolerance for assholes at this point and just insta-mute them, rather than holding on to some distant hope they redeem themselves somehow (they never do).
Also the people in-game who are incredibly insistent about others using a mic are almost always the kind of people who make people stay the hell away from using one.
Also the people in-game who are incredibly insistent about others using a mic are almost always the kind of people who make people stay the hell away from using one.
Straight Edge
Member
This. People with mics in OW tend to think they are Alexander the Great when it comes to strategy.
You're barking up the wrong tree OP
Take it up with developers who don't have actual and serious punishment and allow their players to be pieces of shit over the mic without real consequences
And no Mute is not a solution. I have absolutely zero interest in hearing homophobic/racist/sexist trash coming out of my speakers at all. Having to put up with it just about every single game where people do talk just to filter out the garbage so you can hear me say "Mercy low!" is not a solution. That's should be on the developers so take it up with them.
Until then everyone's on mute
Don't like it? too bad. I don't like that developers allow players to spout garbage and do nothing about it.
We're both going to have to deal with it
Take it up with developers who don't have actual and serious punishment and allow their players to be pieces of shit over the mic without real consequences
And no Mute is not a solution. I have absolutely zero interest in hearing homophobic/racist/sexist trash coming out of my speakers at all. Having to put up with it just about every single game where people do talk just to filter out the garbage so you can hear me say "Mercy low!" is not a solution. That's should be on the developers so take it up with them.
Until then everyone's on mute
Don't like it? too bad. I don't like that developers allow players to spout garbage and do nothing about it.
We're both going to have to deal with it
I refuse to use a mic just to piss off people like you.
You guys are fucking tone deaf. TOXIC PLAYERS EXIST IN COMPETITIVE GAME MODES. WE AREN'T GOING TO SACRIFICE PEACE OF MIND JUST TO PLEASE YOUR MISGUIDED PUSH FOR TRUE SPORTSMANSHIP.
King Gilga
Member
Calling people assholes for not using mics in competitive means you do have issues.
Maybe get some friends to play with.
John Kowalski
Banned
I apologize i'll make sure not to play mp games anymore then
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
If not using a mic is an assholes to you, then you've got a very loose definition of asshole.
Red Liquorice
Member
As an observer who doesn't play these kind of MP games, it seems like they would be missing half of the point of playing these type of games, but they paid their money the same way you did, they can play however they like can't they?
exactly!!
Yep this is probably another caveat I should have added. Competitive modes are more or less where I was coming from, in casual modes its obviously whatever.
jonscrambler
Member
no I don't want to talk to randoms, get a group for private match if you want people to play exactly how you want to play