even DQXI actually started out as a ps4 exclusive
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Calm Mind
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It's not that difficult tbh.
Let's say you are Capcom in 2015 and have to decide what system to put the next mainline MH on. I would assume 3DS wasn't even considered since they already had MHX/XX planned and they wanted to go HD with series ala DQ/Horii.
Xbox/WiiU obviously were out... So they either could wait out a couple of years and see what Nintendo has to offer and if it's succeed. Or already bet on the fastest selling system on its way to sell 100m units worldwide - with the benefits of a easy port to PC down the line. This deal probably was sweeten by more Sony marketing support for all their big releases like SFV, RE7 etc.
Now it sounds a bit backwards with the way Switch is selling... But in 2015? It's not much different than Capcom approaching Nintendo prior to the 3DS and them betting on the winning horse completely screwing over Sony. I bet the heads at Sony at some point expected MH to hit Vita as well and for blindsided.
Sure we could all be wrong... But assuming 2-3 year dev cycle for MH5 and they decide on a platform environment on 2015 - going PC/PS4 seems right, especially with their focus on digital sales and longterm availability of their content.
This feels like a Wii/PSP situation, where Wii like PS4 gets the big numbered title because of the potential of reaching a new/bigger audience... But market realities will force Capcom into developing/continuing a sub series on Switch/PSP.
MH5 Switch/PS4 would have saved them some work down the line... But they would have missed out on whatever Sony promised them in return while signing that deal.
Just to be clear - everything can happen but just thinking about the rumor doesn't seem as crazy as I thought before. Especially when you see how slow Capcom is when it comes to Switch announcements. Makes it look like they expected another WiiU.
So is Capcom right now with XX Switch and that Switch subseries they will revive... Def. feels like damage control.
Honestly if Switch wasn't such a success we wouldnt have too much of an issue with that move. Not many expected Global Switch performance on that level.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Jesus, cheekiness all over the place.
PdotMichael
Banned
Where?
I only see a thread on GAF about SquareEnix not sure about the state of the dedicated videogame market in Japan.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Ōkami;238236354 said:
Nomura is SE's golden boy. He's tackling KH3 and FF7R at the same time which is pretty crazy. Apparently Versus did not make much way inot the dev cycle because SE devoted a lot of their resources to fix FF14.
Pretty sure Builders and Heroes outsold or sold on par with the the remakes.
Okay I was wrong. PS4 version exists simply due to Hori wanting to make it.
MH5 exclusive to PS4 announced at E3.....oh boy. I'm in for the meltdowns. Will be a legendary thread, though I don't really believe that leak.
Why not both?
what kind of meltdown do you expect when it was Nintendo fans who actually believed in the rumors and expecting it?
Well I have a theory about that:
When there was uncertainty about the Switch, any MH on PS4 rumour was received with passive-aggressivity around here, to say the least.
Now that they feel the Switch is fine, they've starting contemplating the rumour while adding terms like 'dumbed down', as if they wish for it to happen just to call it pointless and worse than the real good games that will come to Switch anyway.
But hey, it just a theory
I think they want to use the monster hunter brand to sell consoles and games.Monster Hunter is pretty big at the moment, that game will sell well no matter what and will boost the sales of the ps4 in Japan also, Sony didn't spend big on it for no reason
Well I have a theory about that:
When there was uncertainty about the Switch, any MH on PS4 rumour was received with passive-aggressivity around here, to say the least.
Now that they feel the Switch is fine, they've starting contemplating the rumour while adding terms like 'dumbed down', as if they wish for it to happen just to call it pointless and worse than the real good games that will come to Switch anyway.
But hey, it just a theory
The rumour specifically mentions not having a lot of weapons, taking away gathering and preparation aspects and specifically mentions QTEs. That sure sounds like dumbing down to anyone who actually likes the games and not just cheerleading what system it releases on.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
You speak like some hivemind collectively knowing how to react lmao
Lot of people don't know about this rumour or believe it. Expect a lot of meltdowns if PS4 gets a pretty looking MH game not available on Switch. I'll link you to the thread if it ever happens.
The way you bring up this rumor almost every day I find that hard to believe.
why do people believe more on a MH5 PS4 exclusive than on a MH5 for both Switch and PS4?
with how switch is performing, why on earth would capcom go for a MH5 exlcusivity deal with Sony?
because "it was decided long ago in 2015 and the PS4 was selling like hotcakes"?
that's a terrible argument
you guys forget that MH has appeared on PS2 and Wii, the two best selling home consoles in history and even then, the series proved to be worth a damn only on handhelds, PSP and 3DS.
capcom must have also known about switch in 2015 or whatever point in time they were deciding where to put MH5 on. Pretty sure they got the memo that this is nintendo's next handheld, disguised as a home console.
it sure can happen but I'd love to see capcom's CEO explaining hwo they came to that decision, cause so far it really doesn't make much sense
with how switch is performing, why on earth would capcom go for a MH5 exlcusivity deal with Sony?
because "it was decided long ago in 2015 and the PS4 was selling like hotcakes"?
that's a terrible argument
you guys forget that MH has appeared on PS2 and Wii, the two best selling home consoles in history and even then, the series proved to be worth a damn only on handhelds, PSP and 3DS.
capcom must have also known about switch in 2015 or whatever point in time they were deciding where to put MH5 on. Pretty sure they got the memo that this is nintendo's next handheld, disguised as a home console.
it sure can happen but I'd love to see capcom's CEO explaining hwo they came to that decision, cause so far it really doesn't make much sense
Claude Augario
Member
This is the same asinine rumor that said Sony paid to keep the game off the Switch. Not that they paid for PS4 exclusivity, the money was to keep it away from Nintendo. So it could come to Scorpio or even the Apple Watch; the check clears as long as it never touches the Switch.
If Sony was willing to pony that kind of money up then they should have done it a while back for the Vita. They've been bankrolling Capcom this gen but they always go for franchises with worldwide appeal, and Nintendo had a hand in Monster Hunter's success in the western. DQH shows that they have no intention of picking up that slack.
If Sony was willing to pony that kind of money up then they should have done it a while back for the Vita. They've been bankrolling Capcom this gen but they always go for franchises with worldwide appeal, and Nintendo had a hand in Monster Hunter's success in the western. DQH shows that they have no intention of picking up that slack.
tbf it's just a normal switch with a special edition dock
Psycho_Mantis
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Show me where I brought this rumour up. Go on.
I believed in MH on PS4 before this leak even came out and have always said the biggest clue thus far is what Capcom themselves have said.
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thestopsign
Member
Monster Hunter XX should do better than the other HD Monster Hunter ports due to it still being on a portable and having cross play between systems. People held off on buying the first iteration because they knew a Switch port was incoming. I'd be pretty surprised at anything under 750k LTD.
Yeah I tend to agree. Its going to launch with an energized userbase who will have been playing Splatoon 2 for a month and I assume Nintendo will push the hell out of it and have a ton of hardware stock. I think 500K is the minimum but could see 1M.
If the rumors are true, wouldn't it be weird for a numbered entry (MH5) selling less than its spin-off (X and XX)?
In a normal world it would be the other way around.
Like every Monhun before 4?
You guys are talking WAY too much about unproven rumors.
Edit:
Looks like the MHXX Switch CM advertises cross play between Switch and 3DS? Pretty smart if so.
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Ah, is it? Score for Nintendo's paid online then...
but what if it actually sells well in both the west and in Japan?
What do you consider selling well in Japan on home console? MH5 exclusive to PS4 and selling well in Japan is an oxymoron (unless you drastically lower expectations to the lowered expectations of FFXV and DQXI PS4).
It will barely be sell over 1 million copies at Japan
Graphics Horse
Member
Idk, but those Japanesesraped my ass so hard
well.......... yeah, that's true, but it also has potential to sell well in the west also
That's not what you wrote.
I mean one million could be considered a success though
OrbitalBeard
Member
MH5 selling a million in Japan would be kind of a disaster. It'd better sell at least 3 million in the west if that happens.
Mainline MH sells like 3~4 million copies in Japan.
And if the rumor is correct the PS4 MH is going to be way more expensive than 3ds one...
So yeah it's bad
fair enough
Eolz
Member
Are we back to "Mon Hun PS4 will sell like Destiny"?
Wow at every detail there. It's pretty cool that 2D mode was agreed to be a good selling point.
Wow! Bomba.
So basically could mean that both S-E and Nintendo are waiting for a specific timing to announce it?
I know it's not happening, but has there ever been temporary exclusive localizations in the past?
Wow at every detail there. It's pretty cool that 2D mode was agreed to be a good selling point.
Wow! Bomba.
So basically could mean that both S-E and Nintendo are waiting for a specific timing to announce it?
I know it's not happening, but has there ever been temporary exclusive localizations in the past?
I'm sorry this is factually wrong. You're in a sales thread, at least make the effort to look numbers up instead of being ridiculously fanboyish.
This only make sense if "westernized" part of the rumor doesn't exist.
I mean, if they secure MH5 exclusivity to make it cater to western audience, then wouldn't that mean Sony doesn't care about Japan at all? This version of MH will be its equivalent of DmC. It will done nothing but damage the brand on its targeted market due to how different it is from its predecessor. There's no way both Sony and Capcom could go unscathed if they announce this "westernized" numbered MH in Japan if the portable version doesn't get announced first.
Gotdatmoney
Member
So lets assume MH5 for PS4 only is real (I think it is but not really the pount).
In regards to the Switch and MH what do you see happening? It missing MH5 would be a big deal. Do you see an exclusive series happening or do you think they just leave it out to dry?
In regards to the Switch and MH what do you see happening? It missing MH5 would be a big deal. Do you see an exclusive series happening or do you think they just leave it out to dry?
Despite believing they did it, Capcom are the fucking dumbest company ever if they actually abandoned Nintendo Handhelds for their biggest franchise.
I think last night is clear evidence that the series will continue on Switch and will be a primary platform in Japan.
Now, what that means as far as PS4 and what games are called, etc. I don't know.
Triplicates
Member
This salivating over meltdowns is irritating. PS4 is fabulously successful. Switch might be well on its way to being just as successful. Both systems have different selling points so they satisfy two different needs. What's more, cross development is easy. In addition, both lay down the groundwork for generations to come. One couldn't ask for a better situation for traditional Japanese gaming.
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
I think based on the rumor that Monster Hunter 5 will be a PS4 exclusive.
Capcom had a strong and very vocal support for the 3DS from the get go unlike the Switch were they're a bit more silent.
Capcom had a strong and very vocal support for the 3DS from the get go unlike the Switch were they're a bit more silent.
Jim_Cacher
Member
Capcom won't abandon handheld MH and exclusivity on PS4 is a stupid and awful decision.
I understand that many of you didn't witness the craziness of MH in the PSP era. Here in the East, many people were holding MH parties in McDonalds and other fast food restaurants so that they can hunt together. This game's appeal is the face-to-face interaction. Of course, times have changed, and you can use all kinds of SNS tools to do this kind of cooperation online, but interaction on the net never replace that satisfaction in local multiplayer.
I understand that many of you didn't witness the craziness of MH in the PSP era. Here in the East, many people were holding MH parties in McDonalds and other fast food restaurants so that they can hunt together. This game's appeal is the face-to-face interaction. Of course, times have changed, and you can use all kinds of SNS tools to do this kind of cooperation online, but interaction on the net never replace that satisfaction in local multiplayer.
They literally just announced a very significant Switch game hours ago that will in all likelihood handily outsell any Capcom PS4 game released so far and could approach PS4's best selling game, period.