This could also mean much better PC ports, especially if Durango is using the Windows kernel and DirectX!
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VGLeaks: PlayStation 4 "Orbis" Roadmap
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This could also mean much better PC ports, especially if Durango is using the Windows kernel and DirectX!
LightOfTruth
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I dont think Im understanding this right. What is the point of wasting DDR5 on OS shit? Can someone explain that to me?
If Im not dumb, I feel like we're missing some info about the RAM for Orbis.
If Im not dumb, I feel like we're missing some info about the RAM for Orbis.
Chuck Norris
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Spell it out to me in English doc. How many PS3s taped together?
Very true!
A while back it was said there would be separate ram for os but hey all rumors at this point.
Not really an accurate analogy. I think most devs would argue bandwidth speed is more important than the amount of RAM.
It's like having two delivery companies. The first delivery company has 4 sports cars. The second company has 8 vans. While the second company can service more customers overall, the first delivery company is able to provide faster and more reliable delivery to customers that will pay more for the service.
I am curious what kind of overhead Kinect 2.0 is going to require. Unless I am mistaken (or in the dark!), Orbis is looking to be a more conventional platform than Wii U or Xbox + Kinect is, I wonder if that will lead to discrepancies of another nature.
Truespeed
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Nintendo was never about specs and they had the foresight to know they'd lose if they ever played that game. They focus on innovation, games and actually making a profit on their hardware.
shadowsdarknes
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From one of the past threads. I'm not lying though. I remember the words main GPU and discrete GPU were tossed around. I have no idea what any of this means, but I'm assuming two GPU's on the same die qualifies as GPGPU.
Anyway, about two months ago there was a thread with a chip blueprint that had two GPU's and an individual CPU. The patent said one GPU would be significantly stronger than the other. However, the patent never stated for what product the chip was going to be used for and so the majority of posters in the thread speculated that it wasn't for PS4.
GarthVaderUK
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iirc, from a previous thread, it's something like 6-8x the performance of current gen systems (I think the metric was FLOPs -- so take what you will from that) but since it's more efficient (in part) tech and 5+ years later -- functionally, it does represent a significant generational leap.
flyinpiranha
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Man, I was hoping to scoop up the 720, enjoy that for a few months and then scoop up the PS4 a few months later ... then ride it out in gaming bliss. This is going to be a heavy front end because you can't just NOT get them when they launch. Jeez.
Bayonetta 2.
LightOfTruth
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That would make more sense, even though Im not sure how that would practically work.
That would also make me very happy. 4 GB of DDR5 for games is fucking awesome.
This is nonsense. They've never been light footed on power until the Wii.
shinobi602
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WTF...is...that
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Yeah, that's a better example. Thanks!
Easiest title of a movie to remember ever, Freaks (1932)
In case you meant the condition, Microcephaly.
Reallink
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So which would require more effort/cost, significant down ports of PS420 fare or side ports of PS360 fare? Clearly we aren't getting much of the latter, which is concerning for downports (which I imagine would be more difficult given its struggles with even current gen stuff).
iamvin22
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mother of god....this shit has to stop.
-Pyromaniac-
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We should have a RAM OT where RAM can be explained and discussed thoroughly.
In an ideal world wouldn't it be much more profitable to use the WiiU as a baseline and port upwards PS2 style to the PS4/720.
That way you have access to all 3 userbases and 100% of the market.
Baki
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In an ideal world, Nintendo wouldn't have sabotaged itself by using 2006 tech.
Chuck Norris
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What does it represent in terms of accomplishing some of the early tech demos we have seen. Unreal Engine 4, Luminous engine etc.? Is it in that ball park?
-_- no
From what I understand, the added complexity of putting a separate DDR3 chip into the single SoC package would be cost prohibitive. It would also increase the risk of low yields, and if any of the components are faulty, the entire SoC is binned. Remember, this time around, the PS4 will be having a single 'chip' containing CPU, GPU and RAM. Not a bunch of separate chips soldered to a motherboard.
Really hoping the Nextbox and PS4 are as even as they look, that way PS4 doesn't get the shaft on some multi-plats again.
Been saying this for awhile now. Wii U is going to be a repeat of the Wii, it's not going to get any of the good multi-plats.
Been saying this for awhile now. Wii U is going to be a repeat of the Wii, it's not going to get any of the good multi-plats.
Well, the PS3 only got shitty ports this gen due to one or more of the following: shitty devs, UE3 running better on the 360, or the 360 being the lead platform. There have been plenty of multi platform games where the 360 and PS3 versions are the same, or the PS3 version being the best. Differences just came down to priority and ability.
Even if the PS4 is more powerful, if devs target the Xbox3 as their lead platform, it could end up with better versions.
Even if the PS4 is more powerful, if devs target the Xbox3 as their lead platform, it could end up with better versions.
Newton Crosby
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Well it's a good thing they didn't use 2006 tech, now isn't it?
A useless controller doesn't count.
Tricky I Shadow
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It feels good to finally be excited for an upcoming console again.
Yep. No more Bluray storage space shenanigans too.
Tripolygon
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According to AMD, GDDR5 Vs DDR3
Make of it what you will.
http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/gddr5/Pages/gddr5.aspx#2 said:
Make of it what you will.
Pachterballs
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Oooo
Gddr5
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Gddr5
/bow
nhlducks35
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He means it's older
Commanche Raisin Toast
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the only thing about capacity that should be considered is that there won't be as much room to store assets. it suggests sony wants to move forward with more streaming solutions. it also makes me curious as to what kind of hard drive it will pack, as well as what the read speed of the BD drive will be. fast, high bandwidth ram will need to be fed assets quickly.
AFAIK, the 360's DVD drive could ramp up to higher overall read speeds, where as the BD drive in the PS3 read at a steady, albeit moderate, rate. if sony can tackle both the BD read speed and put a quality hard drive in each PS4 they could make it easier for devs to incorporate asset streaming tech developed over the last handful of years.
then the capacity difference won't matter much, to sony and/or PS4 devs.
AFAIK, the 360's DVD drive could ramp up to higher overall read speeds, where as the BD drive in the PS3 read at a steady, albeit moderate, rate. if sony can tackle both the BD read speed and put a quality hard drive in each PS4 they could make it easier for devs to incorporate asset streaming tech developed over the last handful of years.
then the capacity difference won't matter much, to sony and/or PS4 devs.
Chuck Norris
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So GDDR5 is more efficient, but doubling with GDDR3 still gives an advantage. But then you have to wonder how it changes at higher amounts, and with closed box efficiency
Chuck Norris
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Nothing like PS3, more like Vita with off the shelf components
Good. I did not think they were retarded enough to do it again.
Tricky I Shadow
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General specs seem fine. Medium/strong GPU, plenty of RAM, single RAM pool. I only doubt the 8 GB DDR3 for Xbox3. See the images above comparing GPU performance between a weak ass GPU for email checkers, and a medium GPU. Notice the medium GPU gets a bigger hit. A high end GPU would be crippled by DDR3. Either Xbox3's GPU is weak or it's a potential design flaw (I'm not buying the magical ED RAM argument).
Just saw this....
LOL, Wii U has yet to beat 360.
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