DeathGlobe
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https://uploadvr.com/half-life-2s-vr-mod-looks-amazing-new-trailer/
I am excited for this. Has anyone tried the newest doom 3 vr mod
I am excited for this. Has anyone tried the newest doom 3 vr mod
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The High-end VR Discussion Thread (HTC Vive, Oculus Rift, Playstation VR)
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GuitarAtomik
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Right now on the French Uplay there are two promo codes that stack to give you 45% off. It works for Star Trek Bridge Crew putting it at about $35. Likely it's a mistake so not sure how long it will last. If you're outside of France, you can use a VPN to make it work.
Instructions here.
Instructions here.
Thank you so much for this. Managed to pick up Eagle Flight and Star Trek Bridge Crew for EUR61.09. I really wish the Steam version of Eagle Flight was compatible with the Rift though.
GuitarAtomik
Member
It's not? That's super weird.
It probably works fine with the OpenVR wrapper, just lacks native OculusVR support.
SaiyanRaoh
Member
Hey guys, I'm hoping you can help me out. VR hasn't been on my radar until now because well, I won a bet and I'll be getting one of the headsets of my choosing in the next day or so. I'm ruling Vive out but it's too expensive and I don't have room for room scale VR. So that leaves the Occulus and the PS VR.
I have a i7 7700k, 16gb ddr4 and a 1070 gtx so my PC should eat up the Occulus, right??
My question is basically the age old....Which one to get, these days? Bang for the buck fun, and it's not exclusive to just gaming.
Can Vive titles be played on the Rift? I know the reverse is possible.....
Im interested in more than just VR games. I saw a cool virtual arcade emulation setup that great. That a Vive thing or is it also on Rift?
Who has the better movie program options? I'd love to watch movies on the thing.
Also interested in any sort of "Hack-y" things you can do with it.
I'll get one based on some research I'm doing and especially what I read on here.
Thanks guys!
I have a i7 7700k, 16gb ddr4 and a 1070 gtx so my PC should eat up the Occulus, right??
My question is basically the age old....Which one to get, these days? Bang for the buck fun, and it's not exclusive to just gaming.
Can Vive titles be played on the Rift? I know the reverse is possible.....
Im interested in more than just VR games. I saw a cool virtual arcade emulation setup that great. That a Vive thing or is it also on Rift?
Who has the better movie program options? I'd love to watch movies on the thing.
Also interested in any sort of "Hack-y" things you can do with it.
I'll get one based on some research I'm doing and especially what I read on here.
Thanks guys!
PSVR has some dope exclusives at the moment but I'd still suggest one of the PC headsets over it.
Your PC specs should be fine.
Vive doesn't require roomscale.
Vive games can be played on the Rift depending on your Rift sensor configuration, but Rift is less convenient to set up for large spaces. If you want to play a lot of Vive-targeted games on your Rift, you will probably want a third sensor and some USB extension cables.
The virtual arcade thing is probably this, works fine on both PC headsets: http://store.steampowered.com/app/465780/
I haven't done the movie thing in a while but PC headsets have Virtual Desktop, which is probably your best bet for watching anything you want.
- Your PC will definitely handle VR content quite easily.
- All Vive titles use the OpenVR SDK, and thus they will all be playable on the Rift. Due to some differences between Touch and the Vive wands, you usually will get better experiences from the games/apps that have "official" Touch support.
- The virtual arcade you're thinking of is probably New Retro Arcade: Neon. I created an OT for the game but it failed to get traction so I stopped updating it. It officially supports both Vive and Rift. If you end up picking it out, check out the guides on their Steam Community pages. People have created some super useful tools for customizing the arcade.
- Re: Movies, I don't know what PSVR has going for it here, but I find it hard to believe it could match up with PC options, since you basically have the option to watch anything you could watch on your PC. Check out Bigscreen and Virtual Desktop. Steam links, but both of those are available on Oculus Home as well.
Honestly, since you already have a kickass PC it's hard to recommend PSVR. PSVR has some great titles that are not (yet) available on the PC with VR support, like Rez and RE7. But Oculus has been funding lots of content on their own, and I see them keeping pace with Sony. The Touch controllers are far better than Move, and the games that utilize them the best are mind blowing to play.
SaiyanRaoh
Member
Thanks for the detailed and helpful replies! My main concern was getting the Vive stuff to work on Rift. The touch controller is a no brainer and I'm willing to put in the work to make the Vive games work.
Sure, PS4 has exclusives but the amount of stuff that can be done on the PC VR solutions is starting to tip my decision towards the Rift.
Sure, PS4 has exclusives but the amount of stuff that can be done on the PC VR solutions is starting to tip my decision towards the Rift.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
I think wireless coming to Vive this year is reason enough to get it over the Rift. Both have their strengths and weaknesses, but wireless is a game changer.
I have a Rift and a PSVR currently. I'd definitely recommend going for a PC headset. Doubly so if you're looking to use it for more than just games.
New Retro Arcade Neon is awesome. If I had to point out any negative though, it would be that you'll tend to want to use the Touch controllers to move around and interact with thing in the arcade.. but then you'll want a joypad when it comes time to play anything. I ended up buying a Bluetooth SNES replica, so I could pocket it, and then use it when required, as actually finding something like a 360 pad in VR is very difficult if you're not already holding it.
Movie programs are the same across Vive and Rift. I mostly use BigScreen to watch stuff, which is free and I've found to be notably superior to Virtual Desktop. You can even join rooms with up to 3 other people and watch what they're watching/playing on their screens. It's pretty great overall. The PSVR is unfortunately pretty useless at this kinda thing. It only has the ability to view content on a screen that floats in a void, and the clarity of it isn't at the point where I consider it worth using. I've actually actually opted instead to use a capture card to pump PS4 and XB1 stuff into my PC so I can view them in BigScreen instead.
The PSVR does have some exclusives, but I'd say that the games lineup currently favours the PC side quite heavily. Stuff like Batman VR is now available on PC, and Battlezone VR will be shortly. PSVR has bigger "names" attached to it, like Resident Evil, Call of Duty, Final Fantasy, Star Wars Battlefront, Tomb Raider, Gran Turismo, Ace Combat etc... but outside of Resident Evil 7, the others are all smaller experiences that are additional to the main game, rather than being fully fledged VR game themselves. You can burn through the majority of the in just a day or two, and beyond that there's not really that much software for the PSVR to separate itself.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
HTC Vive isn't a room-scale only VR. You can enjoy standing or seated VR on it too.
F8 2017: Facebook And OTOYs Volumetric Camera System Will Deliver Six Degrees Of Freedom In 2017
Exciting news for professional content creation and consequently for VR consumers who want live action content better than plain 360 video.
Exciting news for professional content creation and consequently for VR consumers who want live action content better than plain 360 video.
This is incredible. I can't believe what they're able to pull off just from cameras without LIDAR.
Edit: FB also announced a 360 capture SDK
I'm impressed that they're able to capture 360 in real-time while maintaining good perf AND capture everything outside the user's FoV. I would have thought that culling would make that impossible.
Tainted
Member
I had my first experience today with a Vive and Rift and holy smokes.....I am super impressed. A small business opened up in my town recently with VR headsets all setup with a decent library of games to pay by the hour.
It's one thing hearing how good these things are but the hype is real.
It's one thing hearing how good these things are but the hype is real.
crazysapertonight
Member
Yeah. But only second generation of Oculus and Vive will be blast.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Well its not secret they are prototyping Gen 2 now. Lots of signs out from HTC/Valve and also Oculus.
Oculus - Santa Cruz headset
HTC - lighter Vive, slimmer 3-in-1 cable, new lighthouse base station,Vive Tracker, TPCast wireless, new audio strap
Valve - gen 2 lighthouse base station, new 2 steamvr controller
Oculus - Santa Cruz headset
HTC - lighter Vive, slimmer 3-in-1 cable, new lighthouse base station,Vive Tracker, TPCast wireless, new audio strap
Valve - gen 2 lighthouse base station, new 2 steamvr controller
Sleeping Lesson
Member
If Oculus is still using outside-in tracking for their next headset, they've really fucked up. The past year has proven to me absolutely that the lighthouse tracking is superior.
They have working markerless inside-out tracking for the headset, as they've demonstrated with Santa Cruz. They also have some pretty advanced SLAM technology which they showed off with only smartphone hardware at F8 last week. The sensors could be repurposed as cameras to enable IK and full body tracking. Neither tech is probably ready for primetime, but they have another year or two for it to cook. Constellation now is definitely inferior to Lighthouse, but it's quite likely Oculus leapfrogs Lighthouse with superior tech in gen 2.
Wowfunhappy
Member
So this might be fun to screw around with: https://github.com/Eusth/VRGIN.Template/
Software to force non-VR Unity games to render in VR. Needs to be Unity 4.6 or higher. Results are of course imperfect, but still.
Software to force non-VR Unity games to render in VR. Needs to be Unity 4.6 or higher. Results are of course imperfect, but still.
Just got an e-mail about these: https://vr-lens-lab.com/product/vr-frames-virtual-reality-glasses/
Seems like an interesting alternative to prescription lens inserts.
Seems like an interesting alternative to prescription lens inserts.
Zalusithix
Member
Having worn sports glasses with elastic bands like that before, I can't imagine them being comfortable, and they suffer the same problems as traditional glasses like smudges. Better to just get a pair of more traditional frames that fits well within the headset IMO. (Granted that might be harder for Rift owners.)
Wowfunhappy
Member
I don't know why you would want these. Presumably you'll still want a separate pair of glasses for day to day use, and since you already need two pairs... no matter how comfortable they can make these glasses in VR, I doubt they'll be more comfortable than NO glasses, so why not stick with the inserts?
In case you guys didn't know there is a better alternative. There's a guys that sells a custom one piece frame made specifically for the Rift and Vive that allows you to fit your VR-Lens Lab lenses into them and then into the headset. I have one and it's very comfortable and doesn't suffer the same issue that the VR-LensLab has where they tend to fall out every few minutes.
http://members.iracing.com/jforum/posts/list/3533260.page
Zalusithix
Member
In case you guys didn't know there is a better alternative. There's a guys that sells a custom one piece frame made specifically for the Rift and Vive that allows you to fit your VR-Lens Lab lenses into them and then into the headset. I have one and it's very comfortable and doesn't suffer the same issue that the VR-LensLab has where they tend to fall out every few minutes.
http://members.iracing.com/jforum/posts/list/3533260.page
On the flip side, no IPD adjustment with that solution. They might be able to be custom made to various IPDs on request, but I'm not about to go through the iracing registration to see if that's mentioned in the thread. =P
Microsoft showed off their motion controller solution. Upload VR article
MS: Should we do analog stick or trackpad? Fuck it, why not both!
They use sensors/cameras on the headset itself to determine position. So they have to be in LoS of the headset to work properly
MS: Should we do analog stick or trackpad? Fuck it, why not both!
They use sensors/cameras on the headset itself to determine position. So they have to be in LoS of the headset to work properly
Zalusithix
Member
It basically solidifies the new Microsoft partnered VR sets as creation tools and little more. You typically work with your hands in front of you, so no big loss there. Just hoping they don't get overzealous and try to market them for gaming as you'd lose tracking for many gestures.
That sucks. Shooting at enemies coming from the right while looking out to the left and other things like that are a really nice and natural features in VR. I actually just discussed this with a friend while playing Serious Sam TSE VR.
gamechanger87
Member
So blind fire? Like you aren't looking at the enemies you are looking the other direction?
Yup. It's surprising how often you'll do things in VR that involve motion outside of your field of view.
A TON of my time in Robo Recall is spent grabbing robots or guns or whatever that are "off-camera". Even the act of simply throwing a ball could be really jacked up without having super-accurate tracking at all times.
A TON of my time in Robo Recall is spent grabbing robots or guns or whatever that are "off-camera". Even the act of simply throwing a ball could be really jacked up without having super-accurate tracking at all times.
Zalusithix
Member
Blind fire is a common one. So is reaching behind your back or down to your sides for inventory items.
Wowfunhappy
Member
If your goal is to create a self-contained headset, is there really any alternative?
GoldenCrow
Member
At the moment whilst being cost effective there isn't. Future-wise the controllers and the headset would have their own self contained tracking systems, even better is when we get glove like controllers with haptics.
GuitarAtomik
Member
Maybe you could put cameras on the controllers themselves and let them independently track inside out. Would probably add a lot to cost though.
Zalusithix
Member
I'm still curious as to how feasible a Sixense type magnetic field system would be with the base built into the headset. Weight, power, and interference would probably be the primary challenges, but it'd theoretically gain you tracking of any object around the user relative to the headset regardless of occlusion.
Wowfunhappy
Member
Reading more about this Microsoft Headset, I'm kind of amazed at the resolution they were able to get, especially at a $400 price point.
Shame that the controller tracking is subpar. I'm not happy with the FOV decrease either. :/
Shame that the controller tracking is subpar. I'm not happy with the FOV decrease either. :/
Yeah, and I think the fact that movements, regardless of where you perform them, "just work" is a big factor both for immersion and just for how enjoyable action-based VR games are.
If the screens are out there I'd hope that we can get them in a lighthouse-tracked HMD before long.
Zepp Twofist
Member
I can't really think of any game with motion controllers that wouldn't be significantly worse if they required you to always have the controllers in front of your viewing direction.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
Man this sounds amazing! Oculus putting in some great work.
GuitarAtomik
Member
Cool stuff minute:
- Cosmic Trip releases out of Early Access on the 24th with the full strategy mode. Game was already cool as just an endless wave game so this should be really good.
- Cool gameplay trailer for a new game called Tales of Glory.It's a medieval battle game inspired by Mount and Blade. Physical based combat. 200 soldiers on the field at a time. Mounted and unmounted combat. Goes in to early access soon. You can find out some more details on the Reddit post.
- 6 minutes of gameplay from Seeking Dawn which was on the stage during Unity's VR/AR keynote a week or two ago. Really good graphics for a Unity game. 10 hour campaign. Apparently has co-op as well.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
Cool stuff minute:
- Cosmic Trip releases out of Early Access on the 24th with the full strategy mode. Game was already cool as just an endless wave game so this should be really good.
- Cool gameplay trailer for a new game called Tales of Glory.It's a medieval battle game inspired by Mount and Blade. Physical based combat. 200 soldiers on the field at a time. Mounted and unmounted combat. Goes in to early access soon. You can find out some more details on the Reddit post.
- 6 minutes of gameplay from Seeking Dawn which was on the stage during Unity's VR/AR keynote a week or two ago. Really good graphics for a Unity game. 10 hour campaign. Apparently has co-op as well.
These are awesome! I love the aesthetic the first one has.
Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
stuff like tales of glory is what im looking for that looks really awesome
UploadVR sued over sexual behavior in the workplace and wrongful termination.
Their response:
What. The. Fuck. Not sourcing them anymore.
Their response:
What. The. Fuck. Not sourcing them anymore.
Zalusithix
Member
I'll leave it to the courts to determine the merit of the claims, but I didn't really care for them as a source anyhow. I much preferred RoadToVR's content.