Devolution
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But what could they have done? You can't just go knocking on every door in the neighborhood, "sir, is this your dead son?"
Yeah if only his phone was more brightly colored, kid just failed all around.
But what could they have done? You can't just go knocking on every door in the neighborhood, "sir, is this your dead son?"
Yeah if only his phone was more brightly colored, kid just failed all around.
wait, what does this even mean?
Its provocativewait, what does this even mean?
Sorry, every single person I know with a smart phone locks their phone. And I don't know any teenagers these days that don't have smart phones.
I'm just not inclined to entertain Zoe's attempts at defending the cops and victim blaming the boy.
I'm just not inclined to entertain Zoe's attempts at defending the cops and victim blaming the boy.
And most people I know with smartphones don't. OH SHIT. If they really tried to identify him through his cell and it was locked, would they not have at least announced that?
And most people I know with smartphones don't. OH SHIT. If they really tried to identify him through his cell and it was locked, would they not have at least announced that?
No reason they couldn't have asked neighbors either. Yeah god forbid Zoe the fucking cops ask around about it. Oh wait he couldn't have possibly lived there right?
No reason they couldn't have had DNA analysis within 30 minutes either. I saw it on Bones.
No reason they couldn't have asked neighbors either. Yeah god forbid Zoe the fucking cops ask around about it. Oh wait he couldn't have possibly lived there right?
No reason they couldn't have had DNA analysis within 30 minutes either. I saw it on Bones.
Really? A kid is dead, they don't ask around, you compare this to DNA sampling? Reaching much?
Are you really comparing asking neighbors about the identification of a teenage boy to a fictional DNA analysis on a TV show? Really?
They may have corrected the other witnesses because only one person actually saw who was screaming for help.
On no, that wouldn't be traumatizing at all to other parents whose kids were out for the night.
Umm...That is not how police work is suppossed to work.
Umm...
The key word is "corrected."
You don't correct a witness ever
You don't correct a witness ever
Umm...
The key word is "corrected."
Umm...
The key word is "corrected."
If they were not eye-witnesses, you can.
If they were not eye-witnesses, you can.
He wasn't a resident. His father wasn't even a resident. Was the father even aware the shooting had taken place?.
If they were not eye-witnesses, you can.
Keep witnesses to the same incident separated while waiting to interview them. Witnesses should not hear other accounts because they may be influenced by that information and mentally fill in parts of their observations based on what someone else may have seen or heard. It also may be helpful to ascertain whether witnesses have spoken with each other about the incident prior to being separated.
While the witnesses are waiting for the interview, keep them busy outlining the sequence of events or making a sketch of what they saw. Both assignments will help the witnesses remember important information about the event.
Never confuse your sources of information. Use a new page of notepaper for each new witness. Don't compare the prior testimony from previous witnesses with what the current witness is telling you during the interview.
Investigator bias refers to the process by which the investigator influences the interview. When your preferences and beliefs intrude into the interview, they are likely to produce erroneous information.
The behavior of the investigator when asking questions and recording answers affects the flow of information. Your act of jotting down an answer or not jotting it down may cause the witness to believe the subject is important or unimportant, causing them to expand on or stop talking about the topic. If you communicate, either verbally or nonverbally, that some facts are unimportant or that you do not believe what the witness is telling you, that witness is likely to stop offering vital information. Studies show that even the particular words you use, the way you phrase a question, or the sequence in which you ask questions can alter the way in which a witness remembers an event.
Be prepared to drop the filters that get in the way of effective listening. It is imperative that you become free enough of your own agenda to really hear someone else.
Bias is also introduced by investigator reaction to witness testimony. What ends up in your memory may not be what they told you. You may simply not hear some things that the witness might say, especially if those things run counter to your own attitudes, beliefs, opinions or preconceptions. You may edit an answer and store the characterization in your memory. Be sure to differentiate between what the witnesses say and how you hear and interpret their testimony. Any preconception as to the actual nature of a given report makes an investigator highly susceptible to errors in gathering the evidence.
His fiance was. Why would it even matter when the police wouldn't know this information that we have available now? They wouldn't know if he was a resident or not regardless, unless he had his ID. It's funny how all of your posts in this thread have been to blame Trayvon for his death or go against anything that would cast a negative light on zimmerman or the police department.
The police weren't there when the events transpired. They aren't suppossed to 'correct' the witnesses. They are suppossed to interview them, and see which witnesses are more reliable.
Can someone fill me in on why how they ID'd Trayvon became a thing today?
running out of shit to talk about, apparently.Can someone fill me in on why how they ID'd Trayvon became a thing today?
Can someone fill me in on why how they ID'd Trayvon became a thing today?
If they were not eye-witnesses, you can.
It's been a puzzling question since we found out they had access to his phone and his calls but never bothered using it to identify him.
" I heard a child crying"
"No ma'am, you did not"
I hope to god you're never involved in anything remotely related to law, includIng sitting on a jury.
Like I said, the key word is "corrected."No. You take witness testimonies as they are presented and compare them will all the other testimonies and evidence later.
The officer told the witness, a long-time teacher, it was Zimmerman who cried for help, said the witness. ABC News has spoken to the teacher and she confirmed that the officer corrected her when she said she heard the teenager shout for help.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Seriously, I can't believe how many clueless people are on this thread.
You're a complete joke.Like I said, the key word is "corrected."
Seriously, I can't believe how many clueless people are on this thread.
Try this way.
EYEWITNESS:
Eyewitness: "I heard the man on the bottom screaming for help."
NON-EYEWITNESS
Witness: "I heard someone screaming for help"
Police: "Did you see who was screaming for help."
Witness: "No, but it sounded like a boy. I think it was the person who got shot."
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If you're going to ignore Devolution's post on police investigative guidelines and continue pushing this crap you really don't deserve to be posting here, let alone having anyone respond to you.
You're a complete joke.
In other words, you cannot defend your initial argument, and now you're resorting to personal attacks. Nice try.
KodMoS said:If you had common sense, you should know that the woman's testimony is still considered evidence, especially if the eyewitnesses is proved to be untrustworthy.
In other words, you cannot defend your initial argument, and now you're resorting to personal attacks. Nice try.
If you can come up with an logical answer, then do it.. Right now, it appears that you don't.
Read what I'm saying, I said correcting a Witness. She cannot identify his voice because she did not see the actual event.
If you had common sense, you should know that the woman's testimony is still considered evidence, especially if the eyewitnesses is proved to be untrustworthy.