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Indie game developer Chloe Sagal attempted suicide on TwitchTV, not dead
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StevePharma
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There is truth in this post but it's definitely possible to off yourself quickly with pills or tablets, depends on what she had available to her at the time. Won't go into specifics ofcourse. If she has a history with AD meds a quick death is not out of the option, even though it's not very common.
They're probably rejoicing. Seriously, they get off on this.
Night_Trekker
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She might get the help she needs though this way. Failed suicide attempts can be helpful as often times people and resources one didn't see before become available.
There's always someone out there that knows exactly what sort of pain you are going through, it's a big place we all live in.
I would like to refuse to think people are hopeless but reading you there gives me a bad intuition... Not sure if I should lol or cry.
I'm being cynic here. It doesn't matter in this discussion. No matter what this person needed serious help. Not some kind of basic level "Why are people like that?"-talk.
Even if she was faking the suicide it was a cry for help. Arguing about ones existence and their life descisions instead of trusting a plea for help can be dangerous if the person in need isn't completely making everything up.
Baseless accusation.
While many of the comments against her were too harsh, I can definitely understand why people made them.
This.
After the Boston bombings, it's really shown how horrible it is. This, and many other cases are just adding to it.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Im going to sound a bit callous here but isnt the problem here that indiegogo isnt set up for that kind of funding? Its not exactly a game... Couldnt she have set up a website with a donation page and linked to it? I sounds like to me she was already extremely depressed and was kind of looking for a trigger to commit suicide anyway. Its clear with her post on the forum mentioning the hardships of the LGBT community. What has that got to do with anything?
Edit: Wait, this was a trans trying to get funding for surgery? Not the shrapnel? Welp, im out before I get banned over this foolishness again.
Edit: Wait, this was a trans trying to get funding for surgery? Not the shrapnel? Welp, im out before I get banned over this foolishness again.
Delusibeta
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I'm going to drive off-topic here and give some reasons why:
1) In a dimension where every user of the internet has to register with a centralised database, that database will be worth a hell of a lot of advertising dollars, and subsequently details will almost certainly be sold: the prices would be too large otherwise.
2) If there's one thing that embedded Facebook comments (and indeed Facebook itself) have proven, even if your name and picture is attached to your post, assholes will still be assholes on the internet.
3) It can also be argued freedom of speech, although that's a bit too second-amendmenty for my liking.
Onion_Relish
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Oh yeah I definitely know it's still possible no doubt about it. Especially if medication is mixed with other drugs and alcohol. The vast majority of people don't have the insane shit like vicodin or horse tranquillisers that really puts you in a rough way.
Hope it won't turn to be one of those videos that are used for bad motives in sites around the Internet that should no exist at all !!
Hope she's ok
Fuck I really do hope that at the moment she's in a hospital getting help and that right after they get her the help she needs mental health is something extremely fragile and important !!
And I'm sad to see that some people on gaf are heartless cold and sad excuses for human beings
Night_Trekker
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And your post started off so well, too.
Yeah, worrying about the preservation of your guaranteed rights is something only those crazy right-wing violence-loving gun nuts do, huh Delusibeta? Yikes.
StevePharma
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Some youtube users uploaded a twitch video
[no suicide in this one but it seems to be from today]
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[no suicide in this one but it seems to be from today]
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It has been done many times already, so much so 4chan have their own name for someone that does it.
Such a shame, having been to the dark places where these things can happen I can only imagine how lost, alone and without hope she must have felt.
R.I.P Lady.
There's a video of the thing on youtube.
She's sitting in front of the camera. Its dark. Its scary. But nothing really happens.
18 minutes is a long time. I hope the authorities got to her. Even if she tried to do something after the camera shut off.
I don't know what the legalities are of linking it. There is no bodily harm in the video. If anyone wants to see it to assuage their worries/curiosity, quote this post.
If it is in bad taste, then I would appreciate if a mod lets me know so I edit my post, or if they could edit it for me.
EDIT: Same video as StevePharma
She's sitting in front of the camera. Its dark. Its scary. But nothing really happens.
18 minutes is a long time. I hope the authorities got to her. Even if she tried to do something after the camera shut off.
I don't know what the legalities are of linking it. There is no bodily harm in the video. If anyone wants to see it to assuage their worries/curiosity, quote this post.
If it is in bad taste, then I would appreciate if a mod lets me know so I edit my post, or if they could edit it for me.
EDIT: Same video as StevePharma
Gunstarheroes
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If the video going around is real, and that the end of the video is twitch shutting it down, she is likely alive. She is just sitting in a room. The pill story is completely false, as far as the video.
BlackGoku03
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Sure, I agree. I said there wasn't much to comment on, not that there was nothing to comment on.
We really just don't have the full facts. By her not releasing her four page story, we are left in the dark with her suicide attempt being the result. All we can say is we hope she's ok and our thoughts are with her.
Delusibeta
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The train of thought was that freedom of speech does not require anonymity, much like "maintaining a well regulated militia" does not require every person to own a gun. It's also an argument that falls flat on its face outside of the USA.
What if she took the overdose, then started the camera?
Speedy Blue Dude
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The comments on that video are sickening.
The fact that someone recorded this is sickening.
I'm so infuriated now, it's not only depressing and irritating that some people on the internet can push and encourage someone to commit suicide, but we have people who watch it happen and then go ahead and joke and keep insulting said person after. Disgusting.
I think I'm going to go to bed, being so frustrated late at night probably isn't good. I really hope she didn't die from Over Dosing, and hopefully her family or anyone gives her the medical help she needs. :/
StevePharma
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Ha don't worry man. There are way more horrible suicide things on YT. Like the Jamestown audio or something like that. Now THAT is horrifying.
I'm not denying any of those things, and the problem is endemic of the internet being left to be the new Wild West for FAR longer than it should have been. But a solution to the problem doesn't require that these points remain true, either.
And a solution to this problem is DESPERATELY needed.
unknownhero
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honestly, I believe people like that are hopeless. I mean think about it for a second, These guys hide behind their user names and mock a person and may even cheer for a person to commit suicide. Look at this for example:
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/11/teen-kills-self/
what's that saying about who a person is in the dark? Now, not everyone on the internet is like this but with all of the negative people on here you start to wonder.
SMT
this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
Chloe responded to the comments on her youtube video by saying she was banned from Twich 18 minutes ago, it says. So she's still alive?
Or is the user who uploaded the video trying to be funny?
Edit: User trying to be funny.
Or is the user who uploaded the video trying to be funny?
Edit: User trying to be funny.
SMT
this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
All in bad taste, what a louche.
I wanted to believe it was her who responded though.
The video is long and I think it cuts off where twitch shutted her down I hope that the cops got there befor anything bad happen ..
And makes me so sad that some one even began to record it to start with what's wrong with some mother fucking people it makes me sick ..
At these point I'm sad and sick with my "gaming" community some of the shit some of you said is sad is cold makes some look like spineless fucks ...
Hope she's ok
I don't k ow why I pressed the link the comments in it are sad are cold are from people that would not have the guts to say shit in front of any one I wish those people so how would pay for the shit they say
Night_Trekker
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Well it certainly doesn't hurt, especially in an age where impoliteness and the hurting of feelings continually provokes outcries of "Please, government, fix our problems with legislation!"
And I'm not getting into a retarded internet argument about gun rights, especially not on GAF, where any opinion not considered far left of center will invoke mob attack. Suffice it to say, your interpretation of the second amendment is erroneous according to the Supreme Court.
Thread derail over. Or at least, I'm not participating further in it.
Indeed.
Delusibeta
Banned
As Facebook has demonstrated, removing anonymity does nothing. Indeed, the problem isn't due to anonymity, it's due to a lack of repercussion. Short of every message passing through government approval, I don't think that there is a solution.
Actually I'm glad that someone did record it.
1. It serves as evidence in case of investigations
2. It puts an end to rumors and speculation whether she did or did not do it. Better this than having someone say 'She put a bullet in her head on camera. RIP'
Chloe notes in the post that ghst linked to that she, "wrote up a 4 page paper with the full story that will be posted via an article in the next few days."
I wonder if that means she gave it to one of the news sites to publish?
I wonder if that means she gave it to one of the news sites to publish?
Alright, I agree that this doesn't matter in this thread and the original post you was responding to is pointless for the discussion in here, but I'm still not sure what you meant at all in your original post.
DarknessTear
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The internet never fails to show me why we're a terrible species. Then again, I've seen plenty of moments of great generosity. Someone on GAF for instance got me an air conditioner when I was at the point where I was pretty convinced I was going to die from my breathing issues in heat. Some people just need rescuing. She was desperate, and sometimes desperation breeds stupidity but is it really right to judge them for it?
From what other people have posted so far, her family has apparently disowned her.
Upon reading up a bit more on that case, many people in the chat didn't believe he would go through with it. They were making fun of him because they thought it was just a cry for attention.
He OD'ed on pills and was breathing for hours, and they thought he was faking it. Then when he fell unconcious they realized it could be true. Also calling the cops from his cell phone, whether it was a prank call or not, was the closest thing someone could have done to stop it from happening.
Delusibeta
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According to her, she was cut off from the rest of her family when she came out as homosexual. She has been given a shite hand by the dealer of life: aforementioned expulsion from her family, her game got pirated and she got flamed when she tried to charge for it, the car crash and US health service demonstrating why they're a subject of international mockery, her successful IGG getting pulled because Reddit declared her a liar (this was before the Boston bombings, where Reddit sleuths got it horribly wrong, and presumably demoted Reddit posts to 4chan levels of reliability), subsequent harassment from people who believed aforementioned Reddit post... yeah.
Off-Kilter
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Goddamn this is such a depressing story all around. Hope she's okay.
tamaster92
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This whole business is fucking depressing. I learnt the hard way that suicide isn't the answer to anything and I hope she's ok. I don't know how it is in the US but here in the UK there many many places to get the support you need.
Fucking commenters though. They never cease to make me feel disgusted to be a human being.
Fucking commenters though. They never cease to make me feel disgusted to be a human being.
This is horrible. I hope she's OK.
Why's it so hard for people to make each other feel loved and accepted? I don't understand why people are cruel to each other. Our one goal on this earth should be to make life better for anything with a central nervous system. We're all born with different emotional makeups, come from different circumstances and walks of life, and we shouldn't judge people for their suffering -- we should be gentle and try to relieve it. Love and mercy.
Sigh. This is depressing. Not what I needed to read before going to bed.
Why's it so hard for people to make each other feel loved and accepted? I don't understand why people are cruel to each other. Our one goal on this earth should be to make life better for anything with a central nervous system. We're all born with different emotional makeups, come from different circumstances and walks of life, and we shouldn't judge people for their suffering -- we should be gentle and try to relieve it. Love and mercy.
Sigh. This is depressing. Not what I needed to read before going to bed.
poppedcollar69
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It's rude to refer to a trans person by the wrong pronoun.
edit: oh i hope you weren't talking about some other case, crap, oops
Yeah, it was a separate case.
poppedcollar69
Member
I'm sorry, my mistake.
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