DarkLordMalik
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PS3 Emulator RPCS3 Can Now Play Demon's Souls on PC
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There wee additions in terms of new instructions which could be helpful to emulate the spus.
Should they not? If not, why not?
Blam
Member
Yeah if they work on something in their free time should they not get compensated for it?
They absolutely should. I was just answering the question as to why it seems emulation can't be discussed in the last few weeks without the capes coming out with "omg but the pirates".
I'm all for emulation. Hell, I just bought a refurb Wii U and a copt of BOTW just so I can play it on CEMU.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
Yes please.
While I'm sure the Patreon stuff hasn't helped, I feel like the real cause of the current level of upset is...
Well yeah, that. Not what you're doing obviously, but that entire scenario has made a lot of people suddenly very concerned about the effects of emulation on game sales.
I don't think this is really accurate. Sure, there haven't been huge clock increases, but e.g. Intel improved branch prediction trememdously -- this is particularly relevant for interpreters, so it fits with the topic at hand.
In fact, I remember some microbenchmarks in a paper about this that show an interpreter running over twice as fast on (I think it was) Broadwell than it did on Sandy Bridge, at the same clock.
Yes they have. 2500k people just seem to kinda ignore it. Multiple incremental 10% gains add up to a pretty large gap after a while.
Check out a frametime graph someday, the 2500K takes major Ls compared to recent CPUs.
Yes please 👏 It's borderline unbearable at times.
Speaking of unbearable, the comment sections of these videos sure are something...
nkarafo
Member
I assume you are new to emulators, right?
Because the performance is incredible all things considered (like context). It's the first footage of a newly emulated game running in interpreter mode. If i didn't see the video, i would guess it runs at 2 fps max.
Super, super dope.
I'm a picky, finicky dude that generally finds PS2 and Wii emulation to still be inferior to using the real hardware due to what many would consider to be minor issues (minor visual and audio errors, the occasional stutter, etc) so it will probably be a very long time before this becomes the preferred way to play Demon's Souls for me, but I'm still very happy to see this emulated.
I'm a picky, finicky dude that generally finds PS2 and Wii emulation to still be inferior to using the real hardware due to what many would consider to be minor issues (minor visual and audio errors, the occasional stutter, etc) so it will probably be a very long time before this becomes the preferred way to play Demon's Souls for me, but I'm still very happy to see this emulated.
jediyoshi
Member
The point is the progress being made.
Think of every game you can that emulates well. Those once ran this slow, or much slower.
KojiKnight
Member
Bingo. I remember when initial SNES emulators were in that state <3
Systolique
Member
I'm completely ignorant of the techniques behind emulation, so I never understood why do you need such powerful PCs compared to the original console you're emulating, can someone with knowledge explain?
Your computer has to pretend to be another computer. Its not about if your processor can run the game its does your processor have enough power to pretend that its a completely different processor.
Those people are idiots. Skyward Sword was playable day one on dolphin and surprise surprise the game still sold very handsomely. People concern trolling over a game that won't be playable in a real way for maybe a fucking year need to grow up a bit.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
PS3's been out for more than a decade now brah.
Backfoggen
Banned
They say shadows do not render. Is that not maybe because the game is unpatched? Wasn't there something about player shadows being added in a patch?
Totally. It's always surprising to me that people think emulation is going to have a significant on sales, especially emulation as immature (in the technical sense) as last-gen emulation. I'd be confident in saying that even among core gamers it remains a very niche interest.
petran79
Banned
A decade after the launch of the emulator which debutted just few years ago
sixteen-bit
Member
This is cool stuff.
Please point me to a discussion ten years ago about emulating the PS3.
I don't think people ever said "more than a decade" starting on the PS3 release date. People are usually referring from where the emulator started being worked on
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I can't speak for Wii emulation but PS2 emulation is in a very advanced state now - it supports supersampling, AA and a host of other enhancements that elevates the experience beyond what the original hardware can do.
Compatibility is vastly improved too. I believe there are many PS2 titles that play perfectly from start to finish now.
Good times 😁
Alexander DeLarge
Member
Bump, looks like it's nearly perfect
https://youtu.be/WSRuhrdrP5Y
Just as a reminder, there is a Patreon for RPCS3
https://www.patreon.com/Nekotekina
https://youtu.be/WSRuhrdrP5Y
Just as a reminder, there is a Patreon for RPCS3
https://www.patreon.com/Nekotekina
This is completely insane. The emulator still runs in interpreter mode?
Does this mean that the Cell processor either has a REALLY simple architecture/instruction set or that it was simply not very fast at all?
That looks amazing wow. They went from barely bootable to nearly perfectly playable in a few months time. I hope the same goes for Red Dead.
DaciaJC
Gold Member
Holy shit. Did they somehow manage to get multiplayer running (the white specters during the Vanguard fight)?
Damned impressive stuff. Ball's in your court now, Sony.
Alexander DeLarge
Member
I bet we'll be seeing it in a playable state within 3 months. It wasn't even able to go in game a month ago.
https://youtu.be/l0aLDsN__os
AwesomeSauce
MagsMoonshine
These developers are doing amazing work. I love seeing their rapid progress.
Feel_The_Pain
Member
Waiting for 4k 60fps
Skyfireblaze
Member
That is amazing! Would a 3570k @ 4.4ghz be enough for Demon's Souls? I have it on my PS3 digitally but it's the only Souls game I haven't played so far.
AFAIK, it's not emulating the OS, so nope.
Corpsepyre
Banned
I wonder if PS4 games can be emulated.
Backfoggen
Banned
Holy shit. Did they somehow manage to get multiplayer running (the white specters during the Vanguard fight)?
Damned impressive stuff. Ball's in your court now, Sony.
There are offline ghosts for the tutorials.
Now I hope they can start looking at increasing resolution. I want to play Demon's Souls in 4K.
From my limited knowledge I imagine they will be easier to emulate than the PS3 in the distant future, due to architectural similarities EDIT: (To the PC, x86 etc.)
Just need MOAR POWA.
