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TLOU PRO Patch 1.08 - Supersampling removed from all modes [Up: New DF video]
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Chris Metal
Member
Wish I didn't have Auto Update on... I don't care about a few frame drops here and there, with Supersampling it looked amazing and ran a damn site better than standard PS4 anyway, stupid fucking move ND.
NecromorphTX
Member
Everyday i think the PS4 Pro is a waste of money right now.
There are plenty of other games where the Pro is significantly better than the base PS4. The differences will only get bigger.
Rice-Eater
Member
It looks like we still get 1800p with minor drops on 4k sets. It looks like it only applies to Pro owners with 1080p TV's. At least that's how I understood it. I bought the game for cheap just to see 4k and HDR on my TV. I think it looks gorgeous and I prefer 1800p at or close to 60fps over 4k with locked 30fps. It still looks amazing at 1800p.
I played the game for about a few hours and then caught the rest on youtube lol. But anyways, I didn't notice the frame drops at all. Whatever it is, I think it's minor and not a big deal. But people want to make it a big deal then this is what you get.
Next patch we'll be told the PS3 version is once again the definitive one!
The Pro is fine and there are plenty of games that make good use of it. ND fumbling the ball on this and UC4 Pro patches is disappointing but using it as some kind of stick to make general statements about the hardware is nonsense.
Sutton Dagger
Member
Can anyone cofirm if they still have native 4K at 30fps?
Movalpolos
Banned
Yeah that's me. And most people I assume.
chromatic9
Member
I do think its important for a Sony dev to uphold the guidelines Sony set out. And it was more than 1-2 frames. Maybe they found more instances. DF didn't test every area, it was just a quick look and found multiple instances.
I suppose native 4k 30 is still in for downsample so people crying about base modes remember that.
I suppose native 4k 30 is still in for downsample so people crying about base modes remember that.
Coolbgdog12
Member
What's next, they're going to downgrade UC4's 1440P mode to 1080P because there's a 1fps dip during a really intense chase scene?
Developers really need to start giving players options.
Maybe the game still dropped frames at 1440p. Who knows.
Maybe the game still dropped frames at 1440p. Who knows.
Rellik
Member
Why stop there? Let's go to 720p.
visiblemode
Member
Consider this another vote for a slider ND.
Simple shadows, ss, and unlocked 60 on one end and current mode on the other. Seems simple. Should never remove functionality imo, unless crucial.
Simple shadows, ss, and unlocked 60 on one end and current mode on the other. Seems simple. Should never remove functionality imo, unless crucial.
Rockeeo
Member
Can't 100% confirm, but from what I played, it seems like nothing has changed for 4k TV owners.
AgentOtaku
Member
Yeah, this is kind of a weird one
Still, as a 1080p display owner, I'll appreciate the better shadows at least
Still, as a 1080p display owner, I'll appreciate the better shadows at least
Yeah, because those 2 dropped frames every now and then was totally damaging the experience. Please.
They've just killed yet another reason to even bother buying the pro if you're a 1080p set user. Fucking dumb.
Chris Metal
Member
I can't agree, just some devs making dumb ass moves... Others look great TF2, R&C.
For 1080p users, myself included, the Pro version of TLOU is now just a bog standard PS4 version with worse IQ. Oh and nicer shadows in 60fps? I couldn't give a shit about that, especially when there's jaggies and shimmering everywhere, which was once removed in the previous update thanks to the supersampling provided that performed pretty well anyway.
Great, thanks ND
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Azure Dream
Member
No, it isn't fine. It's being positioned as something it's not, and that's causing developers issues when they try to support it.
ultratruman
Banned
This could be another bug, I remember a similar thing happened with shadows in the 60fps version that everyone thought was a downgrade. It turned out to be a bug that got fixed.
Movalpolos
Banned
ND guys and gals - Stop reading NeoGAF.
That comment that one of you made at a panel (was it Druckman?) about GAF being full of "noise" is true. And it's only getting worse.
That comment that one of you made at a panel (was it Druckman?) about GAF being full of "noise" is true. And it's only getting worse.
The expected result was for ND to fix the problem areas that dropped, not to simply flip a switch that forced 1080p and call it a day.
Sure, it takes some resources to fix it properly, but Sony should be covering that dev time cost to show that they and their first party developers are 100% supporting the new features of their new $400 Pro console.
This is a really bad look for them.
I'm hoping that ND is still hard at work fixing the problem areas... but who knows
Arrogant Bastard
Banned
So what does this mean for people with 4k TV's?
Equanimity
Member
People were asking for a base PS4 mode for 1080p owners. ND gave you one better with locked 60fps and high quality shadows yet some are still unsatisfied?
PS4 Pro has the best version of The Last of Us now.
PS4 Pro has the best version of The Last of Us now.
They get the high res mode with a few frame drops in certain areas. Nothing has changed for them.
I'm sure most were asking for an option.
Chris Metal
Member
They're fine and dandy for now, it's 1080p users who got buttfucked with this update.
Garrett Hawke
Member
ND's pro modes have been really underwhelming imo. I assume it's just because they're busy but it's weird considering they are inarguably sony's flagship studio.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
lol. OK, this is seriously amateur hour from ND if it's true. They really couldn't downsample from 1600p instead? Downsampling removed from 4K mode as well? Why the hell would they do that??
Equanimity
Member
Yeah I saw a few people ask for the base PS4 option.
But we got something better instead.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Yeah stop reading gaf. How fucking stupid do you have to be to do this. The vast majority of gamers don't give a Fuck about minor framerate drops.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Yeah this was dumb. Optional setting coming in next patch I'm guessing.
Bonfires Down
Member
Wow, kinda sounds like ND got pissed and decided to punish the players.
Chris Metal
Member
I dunno all the demos of Pro I saw before release were Horizon and First Light. ND had nothing for Sony on their UK tour, no U4 or TLOU demonstrations. In terms of tech and Pro support ND seem to be lagging behind both Sucker Punch and Guerrilla Games. We'll see if anything new shows up at PSX though with proper Pro support from them.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Well, this game on Pro is now better or the same than on base model. No longer worse in any way technically! People got exactly what they asked for, but they didn't ask the right question, lol.
IMO, there weren't even that many shadows that were noticeably affected by this, but resolution improvement due to supersampling is literally visible everywhere.
Megawarrior
Member
Put it tf back in! It looked amazing. I was juggling this and FFXV when I got bored of FFXV.
DreadfulOmen
Member
Uc4 with hdr looks pretty awesome to me.
You can thank Digial_Foundry for that !
few dips which were acceptable .... really surprising and disappointing in my opinion .... from Naughty_Dog!
Boooo !
Sony is positioning it as a slight upgrade over the PS4 that provides better/more stable framerates and better IQ, especially for those who own a 4k TV. How is that something it's not? There's complaints all over about the Pro not having enough marketing or message but you're suggesting that they're overselling its capability?
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