HDR isn't even a Pro thing really.
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TLOU PRO Patch 1.08 - Supersampling removed from all modes [Up: New DF video]
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HDR isn't even a Pro thing really.
hogendaz85
Member
This is bullshit. Wish I could refund that digital.
It had the best version before also.
matrix-cat
Member
Sustained drops to the low 50s and constant fluctuation at the best of times. It was damaging the experience; wobbly 50-ish framerates on a 60Hz screen appear very stuttery. Dropping all the way down to 1080p seems like going from one extreme to the other, but who's to say whether they tried 1440p and couldn't make it work. People in the last thread were reporting that Left Behind was running even worse than the base game in 1800p mode.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Yeah, right... Pretty sure they have better things to do than constantly patching a 2 year old port of an even older PS3 game.
Equanimity
Member
Not entirely. The 60fps mode was dropping quite a few frames.
Now it performs better than the base PS4 and also includes high quality shadows but at the expense of super-sampling.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
1440p could still have had some drops, but really, as long as it's not worse than PS4 (and how on earth could it be...) it would have been fine. Really though, ND should have some dynamic resolution solution in place already. I understand if such a thing was not feasable here though. What would have been feasible is to leave the 1800p/1600p/whatever supersampled mode as an option in 60FPS mode. Also, why the hell did they remove supersampling from the 30FPS mode?
WickedLaharl
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hogendaz85
Member
Seriously considering returning this fucking PS4 pro. FFXV issues then ND dropping supersampling is nuts.
Sony you're drivimg me toward upgrading my PC.
Sony you're drivimg me toward upgrading my PC.
VanCityGamer
Member
Are you fuckin' kidding me? I'm so choked right now. I was so excited to play my favorite game of all time with super high image quality. I don't give a fuck about a slightly smoother framerate. Unreal. I won't bother replaying it on my 1080p TV now. What a stupid decision.
Spiral Insanity
Banned
Did you expect PS5 for a SKU that is $100 over the Slim?
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
A 1080p TV won't accept a 4K signal.
Downsampling to 1080p has to happen in the console/PC.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Great. As always, the loudly yelling vocal minority gets their way :-/
1800p at 50+ FPS was A-OK. This is not a twitch shooter, it did not require a rock solid 60 FPS at all times. sigh ..
1800p at 50+ FPS was A-OK. This is not a twitch shooter, it did not require a rock solid 60 FPS at all times. sigh ..
Naked Snake
Member
At least speedrunners will be happy, right?
hogendaz85
Member
Obviously not smart guy. I did expect supersampling on a 1080 with games like last of us. Removal of something like that irks the shit out of me. If ND had made other graphical improvements besides shadows I would be less butt hurt about it.
PeterLegend
Member
They're obviously too busy with TLOU2 to work on these Pro patches for TLOU 1 and UC4.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
30 FPS mode is rendering natively at 4K still. They just lowered the high frame rate resolution.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Its native 4k (2160p)
Oh.
Okay yeah I'm okay with this.
Now performance mode actually has consistently good performance, and high quality mode still has the nice image quality.
Liabe Brave
Member
The only evidence they did is one guy (correction: two guys now) in this thread saying the jaggies look the same to him. They might have done so, but I wouldn't say it's certain. Anyone on a 1080p display want to post screens in the same place on high framerate and 30fps lock modes?
Can you take a screenshot, then turn on 60fps mode and take the same screen?
See, now I'm confused again.
Maybe they broke something?
Not that I really care. I just got a PS4 Pro today with the Uncharted collection, and switching from that to the original 30fps PS3 copy is painful. Literally gave me a headache.
So I won't be playing in 30 frames mode for TLOU anyway.
Dead Man Typing
Member
This iterative consoles thing is going to be a bumpy ride.
I hope this is just a bug and that a new patch gives players the option to select high resolution modes in 1080p.
People paid for awesome image quality. Others paid for improved performance. Developers need to satisfy both groups or face the outrage from frame and pixel counters.
I hope this is just a bug and that a new patch gives players the option to select high resolution modes in 1080p.
People paid for awesome image quality. Others paid for improved performance. Developers need to satisfy both groups or face the outrage from frame and pixel counters.
The Last One
Member
Wait, they thought this was a good idea? LOL
Nameless
Member
At least give us the option. I've been replaying here & there since getting a Pro and the dips in fps were minor and sporadic. Less dramatic than the drop in image quality. Shimmering is back when you zoom to aim, environments are no longer silky smooth, and the character models lose that bullshot-ish quality. Instantly felt like a downgrade.
Because it went from only rendering in a UHD frame buffer to rendering in HD for HDTV & UHD for UHD TV.
I think it's just a quick fix so that no one can complain about it running worse on PS4 Pro until they can actually use some of the added features of the PS4 Pro GPU.
Notice that neither one of ND games use checkerboard rendering , geometry rendering , dynamic rendering or anything I think they are working on something
Equanimity
Member
He's right. ND has removed 4K downsample as well, I'm not sure why.
Both modes show the same IQ and shimmering on my 1080p TV.
Liabe Brave
Member
Okay. I'd really like to see this. Can you take identical screenshots of both modes?
Chris Metal
Member
The 60 fps 1080p and 30 lock modes look the same when you flip between them, except for framerate of course, jaggies and shimmering are there. 60fps mode, fine for framerate lovers but why on earth 30 lock didn't retain the supersampling IQ I have no idea, there's no reason for the 30 lock mode to be there with this update when IQ and shadow wise they now look the same.
Rellik
Member
They should be giving you a refund.
Equanimity
Member
I can but I won't be able to upload anything atm. It's early in the morning and my laptop is in another room.
The Dear Leader
Banned
Not sure why they couldn't have just left the option in or lowered the resolution down to 1440p like Uncharted 4, seems kind of like a big "fix" for a small problem.
Lol, no.
Equanimity
Member
I'm getting tired of reading these patently absurd comments, especially when the game in question performs and looks better on the Pro.
Brad Grenz
Member
Alarmist frame rate hipsters are really ruining the hobby.
Totally worth it @ $400. Premium shadows.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I want 1080p, 30 frames and supersampling.
zombieshavebrains
I have not used cocaine
Bro, don't you know how insanely complicated PC gaming is!?
People want to just put the game in and play, not fiddle with settings all day.
Movalpolos
Banned
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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