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IGN's hyperbole and circle-jerking of GTA5 is pretty embarassing
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Nymphae
Banned
Was thinking the exact same thing.
Wow amazing added.
There is a huge difference between doing a preview for a game you liked and writing PR for a game even if you liked it.
Gametrailers had an entire episode dedicated to Max Payne 3, it was a behind the scenes type of deal. They gave Max Payne 3 a 7.8/10, one of the lower review scores for the game. 7.8 isn't bad or terrible at all, just a observation.
Movies, are the GTAV of entertainment.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
10 Hollywoods out of 10
CambriaRising
Member
Maybe write an article on the game next time instead of an embarrassing hyperbolic Rockstar press release.
Ruud_Luiten
Member
They het paided for that and GTAV had a huge marketing budget!
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
They're not previews.
They're applications for the next available R* community manager position.
They're applications for the next available R* community manager position.
Horse Armour
Member
You're acting like it was a life altering experience when at best it was one of you sitting in a room playing a very good videogame.
Neff
Member
Any feature on a mega-commercial exclusive hosted on a massive media outlet such as IGN is simply going be selling you the game as much as divulging information about it. It's a sad, inevitable fact.
I mean, these guys might genuinely think it's a really good game, but you sure as hell aren't going to hear any negatives about it, and the positives will be praised in an orgy of superlatives.
It's all the more apparent when GTA really isn't that special to a lot of people anymore.
I mean, these guys might genuinely think it's a really good game, but you sure as hell aren't going to hear any negatives about it, and the positives will be praised in an orgy of superlatives.
It's all the more apparent when GTA really isn't that special to a lot of people anymore.
I think so. I see it as GTA IV is to GTA III as GTA V is to San Andreas. Late console life, hardware well known, long development time, lots of great mechanics from other games to draw from, robust online mode that has gotten a huge amount of development time.
GTA IV seemed pretty cool when it came out, but it was early in the console's life and it was easily surpassed by games released later on that hardware when developers had a better handle on how to make games on them. While I see this game as squeezing every last ounce of capability out of this aging hardware.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Don't you need at least 3 parties for a circle? Otherwise it's just some unwieldy, handcar-like affair.
I think you mean "Cinematic Experiences"
I remember the reviewer of GTA IV (Goldstein) saying he negotiated ad placements with the publisher himself. Business and editorial are not seperate at all at IGN sometimes. Greg Miller is basically working for Sony when he moderates panels for them at conventions. That doesn't invalidate their opinions of course, but it makes IGN a site I haven't visited in a long time except for when GAF links me to it.
KefkaPalazzo
Member
So OP, when did you play the game exactly?
There's a reason why I regard IGN the way I do - no more than a glorified PR regurgitation outlet.
Then again, that's what's to be expected from the cesspit that is gaming "journalism" nowadays. I get my gaming opinions and news from people I know and from independent sources like GAF.
Couldnt care less what IGN think of GTA V. Their reputation is so far down the shitter, it's swimming in the sewerage treatment centre.
Then again, that's what's to be expected from the cesspit that is gaming "journalism" nowadays. I get my gaming opinions and news from people I know and from independent sources like GAF.
Couldnt care less what IGN think of GTA V. Their reputation is so far down the shitter, it's swimming in the sewerage treatment centre.
RedNumberFive
Banned
I've brought this up on numerous occasions. I'm not sure how GAF latched onto that word.
gutter_trash
Banned
none of these gaming sites are to be confused to be like normal news outlets.
anyone who equates game journalism with regular journalism is to be laughed at.
anyone who equates game journalism with regular journalism is to be laughed at.
That was difficult to read. I'm embarrassed for the writer.
I'm totally hyped for this game and I have no doubt it will blow GTA IV out of the water, but damn dude...
It is pretty funny that people that are apathetic towards IGN read less articles and give less clicks then the people who despise IGN's style and try to prove something of that.
canedaddy
Member
Nope, can't be that. It has to be a moneyhat scandal. No one is excited about GTA V.
Here here.
No matter what some of their writers/editors may think, IGN is not a games criticism outlet. It's more like a game enthusiast soapbox. They usually assign previews and reviews to people who are fan(boys/girl)s of the series which leads to this excited, hyperbolic writing.
Also, when IGN articles do get all excited and hyperbolic like this, I think it's genuine. These are people who are really excited about the games they are writing about. What needs to change is the fact that so much weight is put on IGN reviews.
IGN is becoming increasingly less pleasant to visit. For some reason they cover movies and tv series a lot now, I don't visit for that personally. And I agree with the OP, their coverage for games like GTA V and Titanfall could have been written by someone in the youtube comments section.
wellthatsucks
Neo Member
I made it through about 3 paragraphs in the first article yesterday before I closed the window. Just pathetic. I'm looking forward to GTAV, but I couldn't care less about reading hyperbolic nonsense like this.
flyinpiranha
Member
Naivety is just a lack of knowledge. I know their "track record" and I don't see why that really matters. You see this with EVERYTHING because it's almost entirely impossible not to have a bias.
Is it money hats?
Is it bias?
Is it ... maybe ... they just really enjoyed it?
If this was Super Mario Galaxy 2 people wouldn't give a shit. If it was Last of Us, people wouldn't give a shit. If it was Street Fighter IV, people wouldn't give a shit. But gushing for GTA, or Halo, or any other "mainstream" game and it's all moneyhats and conspiracies.
I doubt R* pays IGN to rate GTA V well, I'm pretty sure it will do that on its own, unless what you're telling me is that R* paid 68 different critics to get it to a metacritic of 98/100?
You know, sometimes people just like stuff.
funkystudent
Member
I read the first page or so of that GTAV preview and god damn.... Yeah. It reads like it was written by a PR person. Some of those quotes are just bad.
Rockstar are notorious for review / preview shady business and IGN seems more then happy to go alone for the ride for less important games so yeah...
Rockstar are notorious for review / preview shady business and IGN seems more then happy to go alone for the ride for less important games so yeah...
ahaha oh dear
CambriaRising
Member
Anyone telling us not to expect more is to be ignored.
Shadow2222
Member
My heart fluttered in response to such an averse reaction to the subject at hand, from the original source of the conversation, no less! I settled my hand against my forehead, momentarily breaking from my routine to give thought to the powerful and oppositional statement.
Alas, after finally attaining a true grip on the words in question, a formulation of my own statement had occurred, and in all of its glory, here it shall be posted:
"It was pure Hollywood. A random, breathtaking moment of awesome directly stemming from a post the OP made. A purely emergent, back-and-forth dance more exciting than every pre-constructed and predictable GTA thread I've ever half-heartedly F5'ed my way through.
Make no mistake; NeoGAF is made of moments just like this.
And it feels incredible."
There's plenty of people on our side of the fence. There's nothing to understand. Don't feel bad.
CaptainGyro
Banned
and stockholm syndrome
Well can you blame them? I've been drooling over the fantastic cinematic trailers that Rockstar North has put together for us, the fans. Everything we've seen so far shows us that this game is packed with a bunch of fun, meaningful, visceral, amazing content in which we'll be completely lost in once we have that disc in our hand.
Everyday I go on YouTube and look at the trailers only to be amazed once again like a child experiencing ice cream for the first time or when a grown man finally gets fellatio. Looking at the landscape and seeing the Downtown towers in the horizon that is brimming with life that Rockstar North have carefully detailed. Characters that are not only for the first time 3-Dimensional but also as a allegory for today's society. As an 18 year old male I find myself relating to these characters in way that I could not even think. You thought The Last of Us had meaning? True it did, but this has 3x the meaning.
So ask again, can you really blame em?
Everyday I go on YouTube and look at the trailers only to be amazed once again like a child experiencing ice cream for the first time or when a grown man finally gets fellatio. Looking at the landscape and seeing the Downtown towers in the horizon that is brimming with life that Rockstar North have carefully detailed. Characters that are not only for the first time 3-Dimensional but also as a allegory for today's society. As an 18 year old male I find myself relating to these characters in way that I could not even think. You thought The Last of Us had meaning? True it did, but this has 3x the meaning.
So ask again, can you really blame em?
It's better to just go to GTA.net and read their summaries to get any new info if you want it instead of attempting to decipher this amateur prose.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Every other sentence needs a metaphor. Use lots of one word sentences. Make sure to claim the game will herald a new age of gaming. Act a little afraid of how good it is.
There you go!
IMO the thing about exclusive previews are they tend to condition the reviewer. I don't believe that any outlet makes a conscious effort to give games higher scores in response to ad money or exclusives (except Famitsu), but it's just natural human bias. More sites should be actively trying to separate their preview coverage from the individual who will review the game. He/she should not get involved with the game in any way prior to being handed the review copy.
Their coverage has been rather shameless. Reminds me of this Shawn Elliot & Robert Ashley story on Rockstar's PR department.
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/129966/pr_and_the_game_media_how_pr_.php?print=1
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/129966/pr_and_the_game_media_how_pr_.php?print=1
Future PhaZe
Member
im fucking dying
Haunted
Member
Or, you know, you just don't visit IGN anymore.
Feels like complaints about IGN are some sort of secret prayer, that someone's own taste and perspective will be championed and be decided as truth.
Perfect response.
I won't stop reading IGN just because I dislike one article from one of their editors.