Spyder_Monkey
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I've played games with rainy weather and the colors tend to be worse when there's cloud cover. That's how lighting works.
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Anyone else dislikes Nintendo's current love for washed out color schemes?
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I've played games with rainy weather and the colors tend to be worse when there's cloud cover. That's how lighting works.
SpiceMelange
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You didn't answer my question... I know that's how lighting works.
Complicated
Banned
Yes because the game is very much based on actual sightlines and visibility as a tool in exploration/navigation. Most games just have arrows pointing you everywhere. If you've put any time into the game you should understand this.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
You said most games have good colors during weather and I said you're wrong. Also it would help if you actually played Breath of the Wild because it's such an overblown issue.
SpiceMelange
Member
We're talking about colors here, not sightliness or visibility. You can still have opaque fog / haze without blanching the screen. And yes I put about 130 hours into the game so don't try that angle.
I was referring to the fact that saying "because that's how it works in real-life" excuses it while I think not. Games are not IRL.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Maybe if their games rendered at a good resolution it wouldn't appear so washed out. Overall, their color palettes are just fine.
pixelation
Member
Care to look a few posts up?
That game is incredibly colorful deep purples pinks and greens everywhere
To be fair I still think its too washed out, I d rather it were more Wind Wakery.
But choosing Mario to make his point? Lol.
OP you could have used Mario Kart 8, for a mk title the game could use more color.
lmao.... this is too good to be true. OP is this your favourite type of photography?
BotW is one of the most stunning games I've ever played. Certain weather and time of day can add haze but to say the game looks washed out as a whole is completely dishonest. I have many screenshots on my Switch I feel like grabbing that prove my point..
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
The fact that you haven't destroys your credibility. I have however on not only the Switch's screen but also on my 1080p TV and I can tell you you're massively exaggerating.
Complicated
Banned
So you just want to see blotches of nondescript color through whatever weather/lighting is affecting visibility? Trying to understand how you think seeing colors is somehow separate from seeing the environment in the first place.
How About No
Member
Odyssey looks fine to me
wtf Nintendo is this drab colorless shite is this Mario Act Zero the gritty reboot
Out of the first 21 images, only 1 other screen matches the look you're trying to suggest Nintendo's in love with.
Fog is one thing.
Forcing the player to follow a short character who's running through tall, aliased grass from a distance with washed-out colors and bad (bilinear) texture filtering ensuring that anything that's further than ten feet in the distance looks absolutely horrible is another.
Wafflecakes
Member
Out of the first 21 images, only 1 other screen matches the look you're trying to suggest Nintendo's in love with.
Holy hell. Exposed.
Here are a few screencaps i got myself during my play through
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Cloudy day with my deer friend
i love this dance
Sry Op but your honest opinion is wrong game colors look great.
but im sure you'll ignore this just liek all the other post proving you wrong right?
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i love this dance
a bit cuter when the little girl does it though
Sry Op but your honest opinion is wrong game colors look great.
but im sure you'll ignore this just liek all the other post proving you wrong right?
SpiceMelange
Member
I'm saying you don't need to blanch the whole game frame, no one is talking about "blotches of nondescript color". For example there is still fog and clouds in bright afternoon, where the game looks the best, in the mountains and such.
Sounds like some beef. You know that during that particular quest you can just hang back and wait for him to talk right? You can see the dialogue boxes through everything.
GuessMyUserName
Member
Complete bullshit. When you googled for Mario, what results did you get? Obviously Google doesn't give them out one by one, you had at the very least say, ~20 to choose from. You then just so happened to pick out specifically an old pre-reveal screengrab of horrendous quality and use that as your "evidence" here. Ask yourself why you wouldn't choose any of the countless results of the actual game as it has been revealed?
Jaded Alyx
Member
Especially when he previously had access to good quality screenshots that he then "corrected" in another thread.
Things aren't adding up.
And the ps3 examples are amazing. One is a game nobody played and other is a game known for the lack of colors.
It would only be more hilarious if it had an Unfinished Swan screen in the ps3 side
At least three of those shots, and nice of you to include obvious spoilers by the way, are intentionally hazy to convey a sense of scale. It's raining in the other two. This followup clearly shows the reason for the haze.
They could have made this game look a lot better with a little less chemical smog everywhere (and this was just me, totally not a game visual design professional, toying with contrast for like 1 minute per pic)
The temple of time feels like an imposing structure in the first shot and a maquette in the second one.
(also the second is really ugly yeesh)
The nice thing about Zelda is that everything looks really far away but then when you travel towards it, you get places pretty quickly. The haze plays a part in this.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
OP it's fine that you don't like Nintendo but making up bullshit doesn't reflect well on you.
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Jpop
Unconfirmed Member
Oh, boy now this gave me a good laugh.
OP clinging on to some screenshots and videos he's seen of foggy areas turning that into the whole game ->>>> Hasn't even played the game.
From OPs past posts it just seems like he is mad that he can't play Zelda on his PS4/X1/PC and is lashing out in frustration.
Okay so I am going to seem really dumb right now, but how do I know if my TV supports full range RGB? When I select it on Switch in dark theme the background grey gets a bit darker. Is that it? Should I turn it on lol.
IlGialloMondadori
Member
OP is dead wrong. Zelda is gorgeous. Mario, Splatoon, Arms, Mario Kart are all super colourful and bright. OP doesn't have a Switch and hasn't played Zelda.
Ignore post and move on.
Ignore post and move on.
The thing is I and many others have also watched dozen of YT videos, streams, reviews you name it and you are legitimately the first person I have seen with this issue
People don't reach the conclusion "Nintendo games are washed out" after seeing Mario, ARMS, or Splatoon.
How About No
Member
The twist is OP is actually a dog and can only see so many colors
good job doggo
good job doggo
Im assuming this is what you mean?
There are times where it looks fine and times where it looks great. I don't think it ever looks bad though. As I said before, the neon colors really pop in this game and it's easy on the eyes. I think its also much better in motion with the wind blowing through the grass as the clouds float by. It just adds a lot to the look and makes it so much better.
And yeah, the weather definitely plays a part. It looks gorgeous during a bright sunny day.
My only other SS just because
There are times where it looks fine and times where it looks great. I don't think it ever looks bad though. As I said before, the neon colors really pop in this game and it's easy on the eyes. I think its also much better in motion with the wind blowing through the grass as the clouds float by. It just adds a lot to the look and makes it so much better.
And yeah, the weather definitely plays a part. It looks gorgeous during a bright sunny day.
My only other SS just because
Correction, it doesn't rain in the desert
That's a sandstorm the camel is surrounded by.
But yeah, the elephant is splashing water all over the place, of course it's going to create some mist and haze.
No but a Titan is meant to look big. If you don't add haze, especially on a mobile screen, it will just look like a blown up scale model.Correction, it doesn't rain in the desert
That's a sandstorm the camel is surrounded by.
But yeah, the elephant is splashing water all over the place, of course it's going to create some mist and haze.
DAREALGUMMY
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So from switch to FB to imgur the compression sucks.. but it should be enough to demonstrate. Yeah the games weather can get hazy at times, but it's not a constant and personally I feel it adds to the aesthetic of the game. There's heaps of colour in BotW and the game is stunning.
Great shots. I keep wanting to take more SS but the time it takes to do so means less playing so I don't.
It may appear a little washed out when its raining/overcast, which the areas near the start are... but holy hell does it look beautiful in general.
DAREALGUMMY
Member
That's taken directly from there.
They were showing art, that has nothing to do with what he said.
True, (there usually are also birds in BotW) but you can't have birds everywhere, it would look ridiculous. Better to add some subtle progressing washing out into the engine.
SpiceMelange
Member
....try to read directly after that
I mean birds are just one example, the important thing is to have a scaled anchor visual if only momentarily so that the mind can properly scale the object, can be passing birds, but it can also be grass, trees, mushrooms on a cliff, etc.
primasaurus
Member
There is way to brighten up the colours that have been talked about in this thread
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1353442
Basically in Switch System settings Turn RGB from Auto to Full, it's night and day if your TV supports it
DAREALGUMMY
Member
Like I said, we're talking about games and not art.
SpiceMelange
Member
what makes you believe the first technique applies to both but not the second one? And what was even your point of that quoted sentence then? Seems you're just moving the goalpost.
Jaded Alyx
Member
He doesn't have a Switch, or Wii U, and has never played the game.