Lord Panda
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Ooh haven't heard of The Villainess (is that even a word? It should be). Ta
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So is the age of Hong Kong action stars almost over?
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Ooh haven't heard of The Villainess (is that even a word? It should be). Ta
Martial arts films in general just aren't what they used to be. We'll never see anything on the level of Jackie vs Benny the Jet again, I'm certain.
Yup. This fight is legendary.
Nah. There's a hundred or so reasons many people put the Jackie vs Benny fight in Wheels on Meals above even anything in Drunken Master 2.
The major one among them being the bone-crunching brutality and realism of the fight. And I don't mean that in an artificial sense. A lot of the hits you see are actually landing. Benny Urquidez wasn't a stuntman or martial arts movie star; he was one of the best kickboxers on the planet and didn't know how to pull his punches. Jackie took a beating because in the first and only time in his career was there someone even he had a hard time keeping up with and started taking it seriously, too. The two ended up beating the living fuck out of each other as a result. An actual brawl almost occurred on set based on some of the behind-the-scenes stuff I read way back when. They ended up on good terms, by the end, though, and Jackie even suggested they go at it for real some day.
But the speed, ferocity, technical skill, and surgical precision of that fight, to this day, are still unmatched. That insane dedication to the craft is what gave birth to this
which is far and away the most impressive sequence ever shot in a martial arts movie. I have yet to see this replicated elsewhere. Hell, Jackie himself couldn't live up to it afterwards.
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JeremyEtcetera
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Wheels and Gorgeous have top 10 fight scenes, however the rest the time in those two movies aren't that great leading up to the big fights. In terms of top 10 overall consistent fighting action movies where the action is good throughout and the plot moves well, The Raid and Jackie Chan's Who Am I(Or possibly Supercop) are better movies. Jet Li's Fist of Legend is up there too.
For Wheels and Gorgeous, I'd recommend just skipping the movies and looking up the fights on youtube. If you watch the whole wheels movie, the weak buildup to that fight lessens the fight overall, even if it's still incredible.
For Wheels and Gorgeous, I'd recommend just skipping the movies and looking up the fights on youtube. If you watch the whole wheels movie, the weak buildup to that fight lessens the fight overall, even if it's still incredible.
matrix-cat
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I think it's because the stunts Jackie Chan would go for are relatable to the average person than the more lethal stuff. I don't know what it feels like to get stabbed or whatever, but I've fallen off stuff and smashed my ribs or been knocked flat on my butt enough times to know exactly how much it hurts when I see it happen to Jackie or his team. It's kind of shocking to see a guy just crunch his ribs on metal playground equipment, shot so plainly you can tell that there was no safety equipment or trick photography used.
Plus they were great at selling the hits and actually showing that pain on camera, as opposed to the more 'serious' martial arts movies where manly men just kind of shrug off direct punches to the face like they're nothing. When Jackie took a hit to the face you knew it hurt
UnemployedVillain
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Just admit you don't even want an attempt at story and nonstop action because Raid 2 was more a crime film with martial arts than Raid 1, which was straight up just a martial arts movie. It was a better movie. It just had less fighting in it
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Are you saying Gorgeous isn't the greatest RomCom of all time
WaterAstro
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Well, that's if China even started recognizing Taiwan.
I just had 3 Shanghai restaurants open up this year in my area. Everyone wants that small steamed bun.
matrix-cat
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The final fight between Jackie and Bradley James Allan is truly one of cinema's greatest romances.
Taiwan owns the best and largest "Shanghai" cuisine chain (or Chinese food in general) in the world - Ding Tai Fung.
rackham
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Shut up. I hated The Raid 2 because of the cliche fantasy characters.
BlackBanditSho
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Has no one mentioned The Deadliest Arts yet? The best martial arts movie documentary ever made??
Z..
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Japan has been king for over 80 years, actually.
SK cinema has been amazing these past 20 years, though, yes.