FlashbladeGAF
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Jackie invented parkour
He's starring with vin diesel in xxx-3
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So is the age of Hong Kong action stars almost over?
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Scott Adkins should have been Iron Fist.
SilentSoldier
Member
What about the more artistic martial arts films like House of Flying Daggers, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, and Curse of The Golden Flower. I love those types of movies and they have also been few and far between
KonradLaw
Member
Yep. Guy is incredible. Even when he's starring in weak movies they're still fun to watch because of the fights and when he gets into something good, like Undisputed 2-4 or Ninja 2, it's pure martial arts joy.Scott Adkins makes like four a year
Guy was born two decades too late for western cinema. I wish he would star in some cable series, so he could build some star power. Seeing him wasted on side characters, like in Doctor Strange or American Assassin is pure crime.
What are you on about, that's absurd. Taiwanese food is getting fashionable at the moment, but Shanghai doesn't even qualify for one of the eight major Chinese cuisines.
Anyone who watched Wong Kar Wai movies would know that the culture has always been about a place and a time. It'll get driven more underground in indie films, much like anything interesting coming out of China are probably films that don't get pass the censors. The question is really whether Chinese cinema will get its own unique identity any time soon. Wolf Warrior 2 seems to borrow jingoism from 80s Hollywood and most of the effects heavy big budget fairs are dreadful, unless it's Stephen Chow.
Since we have the Iron Fist gif in here already might as well have the Taken fence gif too
The Chosen One
Member
Where can I watch The Raid? And other Indonesian action movies?
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JeremyEtcetera
Unconfirmed Member
Some of you are discrediting the team behind the raid films just because they haven't made enough movies. Jackie chan, Jet Li and others in this thread already have a 25+ year head start. Give Iko and his team some time to make a great catalogue of movies before dismissing them. They might just end up carrying the genre on its back this generation.
Headshot(it's like a third raid movie) is on Netflix. Unfortunately the Raid 1 and 2 were removed so you'd have to buy them or rent them on Amazon video/redbox at this point. Same goes for Merantau.
Headshot(it's like a third raid movie) is on Netflix. Unfortunately the Raid 1 and 2 were removed so you'd have to buy them or rent them on Amazon video/redbox at this point. Same goes for Merantau.
Megawarrior
Member
Thank you for convincing me to never watch this.
Lol.
The biggest action franchise in the world is "The Fast and the Furious" the issue is hollywood forgot how to make great action films.
French film "District 13 Ultimatum" is really great.
Also Agents of Shield from about halfway through season 2 is actually pretty good at this stuff.
Cow Mengde
Banned
Being Asian, I'm glad they're dead/dying. We get enough stereotypes as it is. Let it die so they can try their hands on other genres. Plus, this crap is is all over television here in China. Nothing but cringe-y Wuxia with Power Rangers level of campiness.
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Ok... maybe you guys do have a point.
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Ok... maybe you guys do have a point.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
It's from the first Wolf Warrior.
Booker Dewitt
Member
Because it's meant to convey the kinetic energy of the scene. It's also not meant to be put on a webpage as a looping gif devoid of any context.
Not saying it's good, it's awful.
LookAtMeGo
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Make sure to check out Armour of God and Project A. 2 of my personal favorites.
uncelestial
Member
Garbage.
Like two hyperactive kids in a ballpit, and as interesting to watch.
What are you on about? Hong Kong has always been a different entity when it comes to the arts. Just look at this list for the immense variety Hong Kong cinema has output in half a decade.
The number one voted film is a 1994 drama film Chungking Express and the number two is a crime thriller that was later remade by Martin Scorsese as The Departed.
Just because you see shitty television in China doesn't mean it was always like this.
FlashbladeGAF
Member
Has anyone discredited the Raid guys here.
I think the discussion is mainly just on HK.
You bring The Raid guys into this and they are definitely where the bar is set right now in terms of action movies.
We love Iko and crew
Soul of the Beast
Member
Hong Kong is doing terrible thanks to China, the future of HK film industry is dim.
Silvergun-Blue
Member
Add in Armor of God 1/2 and Project A 1/2 if you have time.
These along with the Police Stories and Wheels on Meals represent Chan at his best imo. Not just epic fights, but the stunts and comedy too.
(Police Story 2)
(Armour of God 2)
RustyNails
Member
The Raid is a new breed of this type of choreography. Lot more gritty and darker of course.
Space Runaway
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Ah, I don't hear much behind the scenes info on HK actors these days so that's disappointing to hear.
There's a new Donnie Yen/Andy Lau movie coming out at the end of the month called Chasing The Dragon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYu-yhnRzyE
Donnie Yen has been one of the most productive guys in recent years. Of HK actors, I'm not sure if anyone else is more prolific apart from maybe Sean Lau or Louis Ku who aren't action stars.
More_Badass
Member
I'm doing that now myself. iTunes has most of his best ones to rent, Netflix has Drunken Master 2, Amazon Prime has The Young Master and a few others
Just watched Drunken Master 2 and the first Police Story (oh, that's where Bad Boy 2 got that idea from!)
One thing I'm impressed with is how even though the fight choreography doesn't have the brutality of a movie like The Raid, they feel like they hurt more. Does that make sense? Like Chan and co look like they're beating the crap out of each other and both combatants are getting bloody and bruised. The choreography is more stylish and acrobatic but the moves hit just as hard.
linko9
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Most of the ones on Netflix are much newer stuff; they do have the 2nd drunken master, but I think that's the earliest. You should indeed check out his earlier stuff! This is the sort of amazing stuff you get:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-CL9H9sccU
family_guy
Member
Probably. Along with American action stars who aren't in comic book movies. What do we have now The Rock and Vin Diesel?
PsychoSoldier
Banned
I know he's sort of a different thing, but it's a shame that Stephen Chow's focus seems to have shifted after Kung Fu Hustle. I get that some of it was probably age but it's hard to find good martial arts films with comedy in them.
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
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I love the fist fight between Max and Furiosa in Fury Road, but yeah most of the time Hollywood fight scenes aren't edited very well while relying on too many cuts.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Worst way to look at this stuff
rackham
Banned
The Raid 2 is anime garbage compared to the first movie. I kind of hated The Raid 2. It's just bad in comparison.
I wanna see the new Bruce Lee biopic.
Wheels on Meals is fantastic. Drunken Master (the first one) is another great Jackie Chan movie. I don't like the second one.
I enjoyed Enter the Dragon as well. My favorite Bruce Lee movie.
I wanna see the new Bruce Lee biopic.
Wheels on Meals is fantastic. Drunken Master (the first one) is another great Jackie Chan movie. I don't like the second one.
I enjoyed Enter the Dragon as well. My favorite Bruce Lee movie.
Really? That final fight in the first Raid was like an anime fight. I think most people didn't like the slower parts of the story in the sequel.
Silvergun-Blue
Member
I think there's just a much greater sense of impact with the Hong Kong choreography. Like, just blunt force trauma. When the script requires killing, it just automatically looks fake as opposed to them just beating each other up.
Also Jackies stunt team really seemed to punish themselves with the falls they take.
(Project A)
(Police Story)
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
So great
The biopic got terrible reviews. It sidelines Bruce for a fictional white guy.
It's probably over, but that's okay on some levels. The impact is still felt to this day. Every fight scene in a movie that doesn't look like some janky old James Bond bullshit has benefited from the influence of these movies. They rewrote the Dictionary when it comes to action movies.
Sometimes it's better to make a lasting impact than limp along until you fizzle out
Sometimes it's better to make a lasting impact than limp along until you fizzle out
Bless you.
More_Badass
Member
Headshot
The Villainess
eyeball_kid
Member
That's what I thinking too. Of course Jackie Chan and his stunt team paid the price with plenty of broken bones.
It pains me to see all these Jackie gifs when there's no Lei Wulong in Tekken 7.