Yup. Well mostly.
My English teacher in 12th grade played a bit of Polanski's Macbeth in class, but fast forwarded through all the violent and naughty bits. So it'll be my first uninterrupted viewing.
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The Criterion Collection in 2017: All Fancy Movie GAF Releases Welcome!
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Yup. Well mostly.
My English teacher in 12th grade played a bit of Polanski's Macbeth in class, but fast forwarded through all the violent and naughty bits. So it'll be my first uninterrupted viewing.
Huh? I say in the post that the restoration is likely a work in progress and if they were interested in swaying people that those maybe weren't the best caps to post.
I'm not even trying to argue colour timing or the merits of the restoration (outside of black crush), I just find that level of macroblocking really distracting. They could just as easily have posted lossless caps directly from their digital master which would have resolved any compression issues.
I'm not even sure what you're arguing, I'm a joke for noticing the abundant macroblocking?
TBH, I feel like Suspiria is one of those films that is never going to look 100% right on digital because of the way it was made. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if prints struck back in 1977 from the same source could diverge from one another, and significantly in some areas of the film.
Speaking of Italian films with controversial 4K remasters; The Good, the Bad and the Ugly is getting another release. This time from Kino, wonder if they'll do any adjustments to the colours.
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Sorry, I'll stop going on about Suspiria when it stops being amusing. That hasn't happened yet. If this keeps going on I might just have to buy a copy of the damned thing and watch it.
Torsten Kaiser, the guy responsible for the restoration which is the basis for the Italian blu-ray, apparently posted pictures of the Technicolor I.B. tech print he used as a reference. That's a pretty solid mic drop.
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Sorry, I'll stop going on about Suspiria when it stops being amusing. That hasn't happened yet. If this keeps going on I might just have to buy a copy of the damned thing and watch it.
Torsten Kaiser, the guy responsible for the restoration which is the basis for the Italian blu-ray, apparently posted pictures of the Technicolor I.B. tech print he used as a reference. That's a pretty solid mic drop.
Fancy Clown
Member
Apparently the new Heat 4K remaster is a big let down. Bad encode, weird new color timing/gamma, DNR... 
Infernostew
Member
When are we gonna get a blu-ray release of Memories of Murder..? criterion plz.
Fancy Clown
Member
Not soon enough
Net_Wrecker
Member
Apparently the new Heat 4K remaster is a big let down. Bad encode, weird new color timing/gamma, DNR...
The color timing seems to bring it in line with what Mann did to the Thief Criterion release and the warmer saturation on The Insider's transfer from a few years ago. I haven't been keeping up with the nitty gritty on DNR/encoding, but the reviews seem solid.
Might be another case of people freaking out over a few adjustments. I don't know how much better Heat can look tbh, the previous blu-ray release wasn't bad like some of those early blus were, and a lot of the scenes in it are pretty soft and low light already. Dante Spinotti seemed pretty happy with it during that retrospective panel last year. *shrug*
mariachi507
Member
Haha, I always love reading those threads because of all of the ridiculousness spouted. The best is when someone claims to vividly remember the correct look for a film based off seeing the movie during its theatrical release around 30 years prior.
Goddamn
Edit: on the topic of Suspiria, they should get the same people who restored The Red Shoes somehow involved with the restoration. Watching the Blu-ray on a good TV is a religious experience. I believe Scorsese had a hand in it if I'm not mistaken.
Discotheque
Banned
thanks for the clarification. i would have loved for more Mann movies to get a Criterion release but I'm assuming this is a reliable seller for WB so they always gonna keep it close to the chest. buying that Heat one as soon as its out.
did you hear the news about Ferrari movie bro? it's soon to be a go with da gawd wolverine in the lead role.
gonna have to look into which Suspiria bluray I want to buy when the Synapse one is out. Provided I have a choice for R1 of course.
cj_iwakura
Member
I didn't like anything but the performance in The Red Shoes, but my ex loved the movie for some reason. Especially how it ended. (Wound up getting her the Criterion as a gift.)
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
Member
Hahaha this was all over the criterionforum when I was a member, people swearing blind that colour timing was off compared to theatrical screenings 20 years ago..... :lol
Net_Wrecker
Member
Yeah I read that. Only problem is the summer 2018 start date. Unless it has a really fast post schedule, this won't see daylight until 2019
Fancy Clown
Member
The Ran remaster thread is a goddamn classic in that regard.
some dude over at blu-ray.com said:
same dude said:
Oh man, I'm a member there as well, and the best I recall was someone claiming they recalled the specific aspect ratio of something they'd seen in the 1960s.
The rights to the film (and a few others in desperate need of relinquishing) are in the hands of Palm Pictures, who I firmly believe doesn't actually exist in an operating capability anymore. Someone needs to tell the body that the brain is dead and get to buying their licenses up to get them out of DVD hell in the US.
Criterion really needs to get on the South Korean train. They have a whopping 2 films in the collection with Secret Sunshine and The Housemaid. South Korea has been one of the best countries for films in the last 25 years or so, and there's many titles Criterion could handle that haven't had a good release in the US.
Kino is kinda fucking up more, since they have the US rights to the Tartan catalog, and all they've done with them is put out a token Vengeance Trilogy box set, a remastered version of Oldboy a couple of years later, and the rest has been seen around the streaming services or keeping the old Tartan DVDs in print.
Kino is more focused on releasing a bunch of mediocre movies most people have never heard of that I guess some group of people are buying. Not to say Kino doesn't have good releases, but there's a lot of crap in there too.
afternoon delight
Member
The abhorrent treatment of Oldboy and Sympathy for Lady Vengeance makes me weep, I love those movies so much, more people should have the chance to see them. *
* Oldboy did receive a large push considering its material the first time around, I'll give them that.
* Oldboy did receive a large push considering its material the first time around, I'll give them that.
Puck Beaverton
Banned
It would be nice to have some Hong Song-Soo films, although I know that will not happen for at least another 20+ years. Same with Kim Ki-Duk.
Importing gets annoying after awhile.
Importing gets annoying after awhile.
I finally watched my copy of A Touch of Zen. What an incredible movie.
Is there any info on a Dragon Inn Criterion? They're selling a poster on their website with artwork that basically looks like a blu-ray cover. And it's very similar to Touch of Zen's cover (both movies are directed by King Hu) but I haven't heard anything about an actual release. Kinda weird.
Is there any info on a Dragon Inn Criterion? They're selling a poster on their website with artwork that basically looks like a blu-ray cover. And it's very similar to Touch of Zen's cover (both movies are directed by King Hu) but I haven't heard anything about an actual release. Kinda weird.
I haven't heard anything since last year when there were screenings of Dragon Inn.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
I got a few more Criterion Blu-Rays this week: Scanners, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, and The Hidden Fortress.
I'm watching Scanners right now, and though I hear it's supposed to be a mess of a film, I'm loving it forty minutes in.
I'm watching Scanners right now, and though I hear it's supposed to be a mess of a film, I'm loving it forty minutes in.
Fancy Clown
Member
I really didn't vibe on Scanners. Probs my least favorite Cronenberg film. Still got some nice juicy goodness though. I wish Criterion got Shivers on deck, that's a great flick.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
Yeah, I saw lot of stuff online saying it's one of his lesser films, but I loved it. Far from perfect though, especially the opening mall scene.
And that's why we must turn our gazes toward modern classics like Fant4stic.
Puck Beaverton
Banned
His novel fits the bill.
Fancy Clown
Member
Denis Villeneuve has a Criterion page now. Any guesses as to what we'll be getting from him?
Infernostew
Member
Probably Incendies.
Wait. Which version?
NR at 109 min. so probably the BFI version?
Neat!
That is the first time that one is available in the US, or at least for home viewing.
Although, looking into it now, the BFI theatrical version was 111 minutes?
Says 109 minutes here.
I think the differing numbers is due to the 4% PAL speedup on the DVD which clocks in at 107 min.
You know, I saw that and still decided to trust Wikipedia. Shame on me.
I am gonna get a free trial and watch this when I get home. Knowing this film, it will be taken down without warning and with no explanation.
Hmm, there actually is some conflicting info on this now that I dug around a bit more. BFI screenonline says 111 min, BBFC has it at 109 min, then again the BFI also had it at 109 min with their listing that I posted earlier.
Watch it and then confirm whether the "rape of Christ" scene is in it or not. The cuts that were made in 1971 are outlined here.
Yes I'm going to double post and also give a trailer for an upcoming release its own post because jesus just look at it:
DAUGHTER OF THE NILE (Masters of Cinema) New & Exclusive Trailer
I'm thrilled about this.
DAUGHTER OF THE NILE (Masters of Cinema) New & Exclusive Trailer
I'm thrilled about this.
No rape of Christ scene, no burnt femur masturbation either.
Welp. So much for "we have the longest surviving cut of the film... enjoy." and "This is most complete, though."
At least it's better than nothing.
Yeah, I'm just glad to get a chance to watch it again. I've only seen it once. Maybe one day we'll get a complete, Blu-ray release (yeah right).
Yup. I do however think it is a bit shitty to exclaim that it's the longest cut when in fact it isn't.
Well, seeing how Warner allowed it for home viewing at all, you never know... (it's probably not happening)
Also, seriously, watch the trailer for Daughter of the Nile.
Wonder if it's another one of Nick Wrigley's. It does have some of his style.