Glass Rebel
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It's a miracle that Bravely Default sold this well with such hyperbole surrounding it. I mean, anyone who says this is straight up lying.
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Bravely Default sells one million worldwide (400K Japan, 600K West)
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It's a miracle that Bravely Default sold this well with such hyperbole surrounding it. I mean, anyone who says this is straight up lying.
I don't really get the people that are so down with the later chapters. Sure, can be a chore, but they are not game-breaking in any stretch. I've played much worse, and because I enjoyed the battle system and tough boss fights, I really enjoyed the later half of the game more than the first half actually.
But with the people behind BD taking feedback to heart, I'm sure the 2nd installment will be much better. Hope this will be a new console franchise that will take off for SE so that they are not too tied with Final Fantasy, which they are not doing well at continuing.
But with the people behind BD taking feedback to heart, I'm sure the 2nd installment will be much better. Hope this will be a new console franchise that will take off for SE so that they are not too tied with Final Fantasy, which they are not doing well at continuing.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Can't wait for the sequel.
The majority of it is the former, and some of them barely qualify as an extra scene (others are great, it varies tremendously). I think it's reasonable to say you're three quarters of the way through the game before the controversial point happens ("halfway" refers to chapter number rather than game time).
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
You get a little extra character development for those boss characters if you do the fights. If you don't do them, each of the last four chapters basically amounts to
going through the four crystal temples, which have shortcuts opened since you already beat them once, and fighting a relatively easy boss at the end.
you fight three or four bosses at once, and they work together to beat you.
there is a fight in Chapter 8 where one asterisk holder weakens your party to fire, and then the summoner uses the fire summon to 1HKO you on the first round even at max level, so you have to strategize around that.
I don't remember exactly how my own playtime broke down, but I put more time in it than I needed to since I maxed all the jobs on all the characters and hit level 99 in the process. That's totally unnecessary for beating the game and even the optional bosses. I'd say the first four chapters easily make up 75% of the "mandatory" play-time though, if not more.
GhostTrick
Banned
Yes, I can't understand why people are going so hyperbolic with this game.
Of course,
chapter 5 and 6
7 and 8 are the one with the recycled dialogues for the main story, but the sidequests are just wonderful.
story part of 5 and 6 with the sidequests of 7 and 8, it would've felt a lot better, making it a two chapter part.
redoing the whole thing. You can just go straight to the bosses and it would take you less than an hour for a chapter.
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
When I buy a 3DS, this is one of the day 1 games.
meltingparappa
Member
Worth quoting for every page.
The gameplay mechanics and the structure of the game itself make the subjectively woe-some part of the game almost entirely optional.
It's a pretty tedious 90 minutes of zero encounters and 4x speed set to easy, but you don't have to do any of the side quests in those chapters unless you are a completionist.
As if we needed proof that SquareEnix is completely inept.
Amen to that. And if you're underlevelled in this game, you really have to do it on purpose.
JetBlackPanda
Member
Awesome! It's an amazing game.
JetBlackPanda
Member
This ends up usually being the case.
I feel like this is what always gets me about localization and bringing stuff from Japan. I'm not going to say it pans out every time, but as far as I'm aware as long as you draw up the correct Buzz... and your GAME IS ACTUALLY REALLY WELL MADE, it's generally going to do okay because people are always itching for stuff that's perceived as above par.
Now if you're development budget is out of wack and your expectations are too high which seems to also be a huge problem to me in this industry... ironically the first example also comes from Square with Tomb Raider, then I don't know what to say. You shouldn't ever be in a position where you're selling (was it 3 million copies I believe?) and turn out in the red.
Yeah, just in case it's putting people off, chapters 5-8 are misleadingly titled- they don't make up half of the game unless you really want to complete everything, it's possible to burn through 5,6 and 7 in under 30 minutes each. The first four chapters are the meat of the game and comprise about 90% of it if you aren't a completionist, virtually everything after chapter four is the runup to the endgame in chapter 8.
I think I spent around ten hours in each of the first four chapters, then 30 minutes each in 5,6 and 7, then about 3-4 hours in chapter 8.
There's a wikipedia page but it needs updating (still has PDZ at 1 million).
I think, to be fair, it's only in hindsight that you realise this. I for one, on seeing this SPOILERIFIC IMAGE, let it sink in for a moment and then sighed and plodded on, not knowing any better.
Luckily we're now able to offer the benefit of our hard-earned wisdom to others
That's very strong, especially for a game that was greenlit only to release in Japan.
The ratio between Japan and the West is about the same as recent Final Fantasy games as well.
The ratio between Japan and the West is about the same as recent Final Fantasy games as well.
WAITING
Yeah, fair point.I think, to be fair, it's only in hindsight that you realise this. I for one, on seeing this SPOILERIFIC IMAGE, let it sink in for a moment and then sighed and plodded on, not knowing any better.
Luckily we're now able to offer the benefit of our hard-earned wisdom to others
It's a bit of a shock seeing all the sidequest icons pop up as the JRPG completionist in me demanded I check them out, but after doing two, I realised what was going on and just quietly ignored them
Aveyn Knight
Member
Very nice!
Although it's a bit weird that it took the Fire Emblem series its 13th entry (Awakening) before it broken 1 million worldwide.
Guess Square is onto a winner here. Now about that Bravely Second...
Although it's a bit weird that it took the Fire Emblem series its 13th entry (Awakening) before it broken 1 million worldwide.
Guess Square is onto a winner here. Now about that Bravely Second...
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Good for them. Thought the game was trash but I'm happy new games still sell well. They should try making more of them.
Magicpaint
Member
I mean yeah the pacing takes a hit, but Bravely Default is a beautiful game. I think budget really was the limiting factor and I hope the sequel gets improved on that front.
But the battle mechanics are extremely solid. One of the best around and genuinely refreshing. Also all the customisation options, not just of the job system but also for general play experience is the best I've seen since TWEWY, I think.
But the battle mechanics are extremely solid. One of the best around and genuinely refreshing. Also all the customisation options, not just of the job system but also for general play experience is the best I've seen since TWEWY, I think.
NeonZ
Member
Is there even any million seller SRPG aside from Awakening? SRPGs in general seem to be considered more niche than standard RPGs. Well, I guess there's Final Fantasy Tactics, but that had the FF brand name when it was much stronger.
Skellig Gra
Member
Great news! Jrpgs are perfect for handheld gaming. Keep em coming.
Right, FF Tactics, Advance and A-2 each did over a million worldwide.
If you combine every release of Tactics Ogre (SFC, PS1, Saturn, VC and the PSP remake) it should be over a million too but that's sort of cheating. I bet the same's true for Shining Force 1-2 when you start getting into emulated digital rereleases and multigame compilations.
lol. Yes, that's all that's holding it back from a number few JRPGs ever reach.
Magicpaint
Member
Pretty sure I read an interview where they said they went for the chibi-look specifically because they were aiming for higher sales
Orniletter
Banned
It is definately a flawed game, but man, what a nice experience it was.
The second half is not nearly as bad as people are acting.
I´m in for Bravely Second !
The second half is not nearly as bad as people are acting.
I´m in for Bravely Second !
JetBlackPanda
Member
This kind of seems relevant. The dude creeps me out but he makes a good point.
http://youtu.be/c-_yZvmzLOQ
Just give me DQ Nintendo
http://youtu.be/c-_yZvmzLOQ
Just give me DQ Nintendo
I think, to be fair, it's only in hindsight that you realise this. I for one, on seeing this SPOILERIFIC IMAGE, let it sink in for a moment and then sighed and plodded on, not knowing any better.
Luckily we're now able to offer the benefit of our hard-earned wisdom to others
So you didn't learn in the first four chapters that blue quests are not necessary for story progression? Sorry, that's entirely on you
Bruno MB
Member
sörine;123000889 said:
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift fell short of the million mark. Latest reported figured (March 31, 2009) had it a 670,000 units sold.
I always thought that a new Final Fantasy Tactics for 3DS was a lock, even more after the great reception Fire Emblem: Awakening had. But nowadays you can't expect anything from Square Enix.
Pretty sure I read an interview where they said they went for the chibi-look specifically because they were aiming for higher sales
Well, it's wishful thinking on my part, but I do wonder if a non-chibi look would have reached an even larger audience, especially considering how well it did in the west.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
That's crazy good! I bought a 2DS in part just to play it, so yeah
Haha, same here!
WAITING
Christ almighty, THIS.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
These fuckers need to bring over DQ7.