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HowardMoon said:Seimens
Haha. Wii is G-rated compared to Seimens, Hooters, FCUK, and Virgin.
HowardMoon said:Seimens
Chittagong said:None of them resemble closely wee or poo though
SuperPac said:That's not his particular argument, though. His argument is only that the commonality of the word "we" in English means it won't be successful.
If being too close to wee or poo were the argument... he should grow the hell up.
Nash said:Here's a list of the 60 odd pronouns:
http://www.einfoweb.com/grammar/pros/list.html
Of all those, I think 1 has been used as a product/brand - 'one' and that was prefixed by CK.
sp0rsk said:heian kyo has finally descended into joke character status
sp0rsk said:heian kyo has finally descended into joke character status
"finally"?sp0rsk said:heian kyo has finally descended into joke character status
Chittagong said:Still, I'm a bit worried (about myself or about the name) that several days after the name was announced I chuckle every time I read the name, and laugh at the comic about the runner-up name being Vagina. Hell, every time I read the name I picture this little dude standing at the edge of a merry-go-around pissing and shouting "weeeeeeee!!".
gamergirly said:It must've went like this at Nintendo:
Revolution Name Leader A: Think of new name for Nintendo console. Use Mario and Wario
Person 1: Okay. We have Mario and Wario. Think of it
Person 2: ario and ario
Person 3: ari and ari
Person 2: R We and R we
Person 3: Not We, little we
Person 2: (typing)Wi?
Person 1: Yes, but include the other wi
Person 3: Join the 2 wiwi's together.
Person 2: Got it. Let's Wii
I think this counter argument is rather thin, as I'd argue that many of those brands aren't a part of the English lexicon. A few are also company names, which is a whole different topic, and most are nouns. Pronouns are not popular or common brand names for a very specific reason.SuperPac said:There are plenty of other brands that are regular everyday English words. Dial, All, Snuggle, Aim, Always, Dawn, Tide, Ivory, Subway, Gap, Citi (bank), Hertz, Kraft, Mobil, Shell, Target, Borders, Apple, People, Time, Stuff, Blender, Premiere, Fortune, Money, Wizard, Life, Shape, Jet, Giant, Billboard, Spin, Wired, Fox. Are those bad/unsuccessful brand names because they could be confused with the reguar word in the English language? Do they blend in too much? Your argument is weak. You just don't like the name, and that's fine -- that's your prerogative.
Brands are worth billions, and there is a certain art to assigning them correctly, but from the outset I've always believed it's either a nil or negative effect. Keep in mind this is considering the name on it's own, seperate of the product.kaizoku said:You said brands only ever have negative impacts on a product or a very small positive impact. Thats incredibly ignorant. I dont care what you do, brands are worth billions and people dont do that just to avoid negative brands. I assumed you pulled this out of your personal experience of the world (which is fine) cos you sure as hell didnt do any research.
How you can come on a gaming forum and be a regular member and then suggest brands never have a positive impact is hilarious. Gaming world is full of brands and franchises and they are all staring you in the face.
I think this is where we truly differ in opinion. I don't think Wii is that radical a name. We've already had the likes of Genesis and Jaguar; I just don't see Wii as being that different.kaizoku said:Wii has broken walls which would have been present with a generic console name - if they changed back I'd be worried about them.
SuperPac said:I honestly don't see how anyone could confuse Wii with we in the context of a sentence/discussion. I've been listening to a few podcasts that discuss the Wii and I've never had any trouble differentiating which word they mean at any point in time. I would assume (or hope) that would be the case for any other native/fluent English speaker, unless they are stupid.
There are plenty of other brands that are regular everyday English words. Dial, All, Snuggle, Aim, Always, Dawn, Tide, Ivory, Subway, Gap, Citi (bank), Hertz, Kraft, Mobil, Shell, Target, Borders, Apple, People, Time, Stuff, Blender, Premiere, Fortune, Money, Wizard, Life, Shape, Jet, Giant, Billboard, Spin, Wired, Fox. Are those bad/unsuccessful brand names because they could be confused with the reguar word in the English language? Do they blend in too much? Your argument is weak. You just don't like the name, and that's fine -- that's your prerogative.
I would just like to throw in my "two cents" here that "Jackie Bang" would be a fine name for a new character on The Sopranos.SuperPac said:But potential mockery has not stopped anyone from changing their first/last name if it includes any of these: Dick, Harry, Cox, Enos (rhymes with...), Sach/Sak, Dix (my parents were friends with a family of Dixes that caused me much laughter when I was younger), Ball, Bang (there's a news reporter in Chicago... "Jackie Bang"), etc.
You'd think the people with these names would change them on their 18th birthday or their parents wouldn't use them in the first place (if they're first names). Yet I don't think too many do.
Heian-kyo said:I'd argue that many of those brands aren't a part of the English lexicon. A few are also company names, which is a whole different topic, and most are nouns. Pronouns are not popular or common brand names for a very specific reason.
Matlock said:I'm so p****d right now. Not only do I want to turn in my Nintendo coat, I want to turn in my gaming coat period.
underfooter said:Jesus, people are STILL talking about this.
Don't your minds have better things to do?
Subliminal advertising for Brain Age?underfooter said:Don't your minds have better things to do?
Excellent post.kaizoku said:Heian-kyo you're not making 100% sense but I'll attempt to answer what I think you are trying to say.
First of all STOP trying to predict how this word will be accepted or otherwise, I mean holy shit how many times have you (and others) said it already? Funny thing is you can give every reasonable reason under the sun and it will still be meaningless to us because no one on this planet can know for sure what effect this brand and the marketing push alongside it plus the prospect of an exciting new console pushing it will have on human society. We just dont know a thing - which makes the extended commentary as valuable and interesting as me telling the world what I think its like to be the Pope.
You said brands only ever have negative impacts on a product or a very small positive impact. Thats incredibly ignorant. I dont care what you do, brands are worth billions and people dont do that just to avoid negative brands. I assumed you pulled this out of your personal experience of the world (which is fine) cos you sure as hell didnt do any research.
How you can come on a gaming forum and be a regular member and then suggest brands never have a positive impact is hilarious. Gaming world is full of brands and franchises and they are all staring you in the face.
Wii will not enter the lexicon? Wii will go as far as Nintendo can push it - that is the power of marketing. If they do it right Wii can be the hottest product on the market and there is then no choice but for it to enter the daily usage of people everywhere. Its not like humankind has a list of rules for what it will allow into its languages, its a very flexible system which evolves by itself.
Practically already happened on here hasnt it?
One more time, liking the name is irrelevant, what matters is its a brand which indicates the next gen and people will remember it - after that it depends how far Nintendo can push the brand and the consoles home. Wii has broken walls which would have been present with a generic console name - if they changed back I'd be worried about them.
that totally has not been posted several times already. no really. it hasn't. seriously.Demigod Mac said:
jluedtke said:Over at Team Fremont, we've come up with a new Wii theme song. Enjoy:
http://www.teamfremont.com/sounds/Wii.mp3
:lol that's awesomeyoopoo said:
Viewtiful Darkness said:The name is now officially on the US Trademark site:
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/04/wii-trademark-surfaces-naysayers-wiip/
So it looks like the rumors of it just being a "teaser" to the final name were untrue
Nintendo Press Release said:The worldwide innovator in the creation of interactive entertainment, Nintendo Co., Ltd., of Kyoto, Japan, manufactures and markets hardware and software for its Wii, Nintendo DS, Game Boy® Advance and Nintendo GameCube systems.
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