GoldandBlue
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I mean during the 360 era the Xbox got a lot of them but they didn't do so hot even then.
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Valkyria Revolution review thread
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To be fair to the poster, anyone with no knowledge about the games looking at them from a distance will probably lump the three in the same "animu with underage girls" category
microsoft had to put a lot of money to get those japanese games for 360. it wasn't because Japan wanted to publish on it, it was always a sales failure there. as soon as the incentives stopped, japanese devs ignored (even more) the 360. it had nothing to do with the userbase
Quintin DM
Member
I remember people say in the import impressions thread that the game wasn't good so these scores don't surprise me much.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Neither will Xbox One owners.
You might be surprised...
xbox owners have no previous game to compare revolution with, are unaware about the controversy regarding changing the series and many already stated they're buying it regardless "to support japanese games on xbox"
It's not going to be a success (but it won't be anywhere) but the gap between PS4 and Xbox sales on this one might be closer than most could think of
themagicalkitsune
Member
I don't think it was phrased as bias against the console manufacturer. It's just that japanese games of this type are much more scarce on XB1 and no Valkyria game has showed up on xbox anyway, so fans itching to scratch that urge through XB1 should still reconsider. That's my take anyway.
Gust does this to themselves by wrapping everything they make - regardless of actual quality - in a thoroughly unappealing aesthetic.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
Yeah, first gameplay was a disaster.
not surprised by the scores.
also don't regret my preorder.
I never expected to get a good game from this.
just wanted to do my part to help sega get motivated into cashing in on VC2/3 and doing full blown remakes of them.
doubt it will happen, but eh... every little bit likely helps lol.
also don't regret my preorder.
I never expected to get a good game from this.
just wanted to do my part to help sega get motivated into cashing in on VC2/3 and doing full blown remakes of them.
doubt it will happen, but eh... every little bit likely helps lol.
James Scott
Banned
In localizing it they're increasing costs by quite a bit especially since they ported it to other systems.
It's likely not going to do very well and does damage to the brand.
CertifiedFP
Member
This is my surprised face:
So much writing on the wall. Not a single trailer after the initial announcement in December, the only PR following that was a release date announcement on the PS Blog, no E3 presence at all, and a release-day review embargo. Atlus knew they made a massive mistake picking this game up, but canceling the localization after announcing it would make them look just as bad (Hello, PSO2!).
Anyway, game got fucked. Could have had potential to at least be semi-decent under any other publisher, but Sega made Media.Vision shit out a pre-pre-Alpha demo to push copies of VCRemastered and then when it got criticized, put all the responsibility on the devs and slashed Azure Rev's budget. I'd really like to see what this game could have been if Sega waited until the game was actually ready before showing it off.
Like seriously, this game is the prime example for why games in early-development have behind-closed-doors scripted-demos only shown to the press instead of making their demos publicly downloadable.
There's going to be hell to pay if this affects the chances of VC3 coming west or that rumored VC3 remake's development.
So much writing on the wall. Not a single trailer after the initial announcement in December, the only PR following that was a release date announcement on the PS Blog, no E3 presence at all, and a release-day review embargo. Atlus knew they made a massive mistake picking this game up, but canceling the localization after announcing it would make them look just as bad (Hello, PSO2!).
Anyway, game got fucked. Could have had potential to at least be semi-decent under any other publisher, but Sega made Media.Vision shit out a pre-pre-Alpha demo to push copies of VCRemastered and then when it got criticized, put all the responsibility on the devs and slashed Azure Rev's budget. I'd really like to see what this game could have been if Sega waited until the game was actually ready before showing it off.
Like seriously, this game is the prime example for why games in early-development have behind-closed-doors scripted-demos only shown to the press instead of making their demos publicly downloadable.
There's going to be hell to pay if this affects the chances of VC3 coming west or that rumored VC3 remake's development.
pete_clarf
Member
Metacritic is 61. Everyone's acting like it's 30. I imagine some will find it enjoyable.
24 reviews so far
6 positive, 4 negative, 14 mixed.
I just opened my copy up. The outer box opens from the side, so that is already strike one from me! The soundtrack comes in a paper slipcase (the artwork on it is nice, though). The pin is cool.
24 reviews so far
6 positive, 4 negative, 14 mixed.
I just opened my copy up. The outer box opens from the side, so that is already strike one from me! The soundtrack comes in a paper slipcase (the artwork on it is nice, though). The pin is cool.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Wait, this is out? Holy shit. Though... I was hoping it'd turn out a little better than this...
themagicalkitsune
Member
61 is a pretty weak metacritic score, especially considering previous entries in the franchise, which fared considerably better.
(please don't bring up the '5/10 is average therefore it's above average' argument as the trend of scoring games and score aggregates in general clearly shows this is not the case)
At 30 metacritic we're talking worst game of the year tier and Sega has fucked up this hard only with the worst Sonic game (rise of lyric). What game had a 30 mc lately, Ghostbusters?
Shifty1897
Member
These reviews hurt my heart.
pete_clarf
Member
It is weak, but it's not abysmal. 11 out of the 25 reviews have a 7/10 or higher. Only 5 out of 25 have a score 5/10 or below. Everything else is between 5 and 7. That's certainly mediocre, but not a disaster.
Nearly all outlets that mark out of 10 or 100 effectively begin their scale at 5 or 50 which inflates aggregates. Even Mighty No 9 has a OC of 52. Video game criticism is extremely sanitised outside of a few rare exceptions (Giant Bomb, Euro/US Gamer, Tom Chick etc).
Price Drop
Member
A positive review:
http://news.punchjump.com/2017/06/2...tion-ps4-ps-vita-pc-claims-victory-in-battle/
I loved Valkyria Chronicles and went into this viewing the game as a spin-off. Surprisingly, the action / strategy hybrid gameplay isn't bad at all. It's an action game with some strategy elements, but it's not all that polished. That said, all the strategy elements are great, like the Battle Palette, weapon upgrades, spell upgrades, and character customization. There are A LOT of cinematics with load times though. Definitely would have worked better with illustrations and text to move the story along.
http://news.punchjump.com/2017/06/2...tion-ps4-ps-vita-pc-claims-victory-in-battle/
I loved Valkyria Chronicles and went into this viewing the game as a spin-off. Surprisingly, the action / strategy hybrid gameplay isn't bad at all. It's an action game with some strategy elements, but it's not all that polished. That said, all the strategy elements are great, like the Battle Palette, weapon upgrades, spell upgrades, and character customization. There are A LOT of cinematics with load times though. Definitely would have worked better with illustrations and text to move the story along.
veloxStrix
Banned
Ouch. That 30 from Slant actually cuts me deep since they have slowly been becoming one of my favorite sources for reviews. I needed a few passes this year with all the goodness floating around.
That review isn't a review. It's a summary of the game. The writer put about as much of themselves into it as the person who does the back of the game box. I'm also not sure
That review isn't a review. It's a summary of the game. The writer put about as much of themselves into it as the person who does the back of the game box. I'm also not sure
is exactly high praise. :/
Kayo Police
Member
I bought this in hopes of getting a true VC game but man.
CertifiedFP
Member
sublimit
Banned
I don't care about reviews (don't trust them either) so i still want to give this game a try.I don't expect it to be anything like the original series so i'll try to enjoy it for what it is.
Also Jesus Christ people,the Valkyria team have said many times that this was just a spin off title and it will NOT affect the Valkyria IP in any way.So please stop with the "OMG Valkyria Chronicles series is doomed" posts.
Also Jesus Christ people,the Valkyria team have said many times that this was just a spin off title and it will NOT affect the Valkyria IP in any way.So please stop with the "OMG Valkyria Chronicles series is doomed" posts.
King Gilga
Member
A 60 is basically a 30 with how overinflated video game review scores are.
CertifiedFP
Member
Castef
Banned
Yep.
But you have an audience and you are able to... "educate" it to different tastes.
If you do not publish certain kind of games on a console how would you push that genre on it?
Anyone remembers when there was skepticism agains the publishing of The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind on Xbox?
"Console gamers do not play this kind of games".
Now, look at what The Elder Scrolls became for console owners...
Most video game critics don't use the full scale probably out of fear of upsetting the publisher or sticking out from the crowd with an outlier review. This is a nailed on 2 or 3/10.
It had the potential to be but the PSP's limitations held it back IMO. It deserves a full remake for sure.
Son Of Sparda
Member
All I wanted was a home console sequel to Valkyria Chronicles. I don't know WTF Sega was thinking with this shit.
Huge Succeeded
Banned
And people wonder why I have no faith whatsoever in SEGA
If the PS2 hadn't killed Dreamcast, Sega would still have found a way to ruin themselves.
Its literally what they're best at
If the PS2 hadn't killed Dreamcast, Sega would still have found a way to ruin themselves.
Its literally what they're best at
I don't get this post, I seriously doubt that most of the xbox one playerbase who could potentially be interested on this game, never heard about the series, specially in the internet era when you can know a lot about franchises that one probably never played
Cross-posting this from the OT since, surprisingly, more people are interested in the review thread than that one, and i'm currently working on a review:
Jangowuzhere
Banned
I don't even like Valkyria Chronicles, but even with me saying that, this game always felt like a massive slap in the face.
I always thought VC had some really cool ideas that could be expanded upon. Stripping away everything unique about VC and boiling it down into a generic JRPG was so fucking lame.
I always thought VC had some really cool ideas that could be expanded upon. Stripping away everything unique about VC and boiling it down into a generic JRPG was so fucking lame.
That's just the internet in general, people are more interested in the controversies and big hits than normal conversations, no surprise.
CertifiedFP
Member
That's just the internet in general, people are more interested in the controversies and big hits than normal conversations, no surprise.
Where's the controversy? Everyone's in agreement this is a bad game.
The question is: Was this the result of Sega fuckery concerning that demo packed-in with VCR? Or has Media.Vision gone the way of Tri-Ace?
Well we have no way of knowing. I can give a few cases of people who bought this game without playing any of the previous valkyrie chronicles (myself included) just in hopes of more japanese content in the system. Might not look like much for people with PS4s but even the scraps are rare on the xbox ecosystem right now (which makes that review "buy something else, even on xbox" pointless - there's 'nothing else').
You are also vastly overestimating valkyria chronicles popularity. it's nowhere near as absurd for the main public to have never heard of it before
The Cartographer
Member
''Strategy musou'' sounds interesting so I think I will get it but I still can't forgive SEGA for moving the series from PS3 to PSP and then starting a new spin-off/alternative series like it was the natural thing to do.
I'm not saying this one in particular is a controversy, I was just speaking in general. This example is more like a hubbub. Remember the Scalebound cancellation thread being 1000x bigger than the Scalebound preview threads.
Judging by what happened, I think Sega Japan made a number of bad miscalculations on both the business and appeal/design end of the spectrum. Once these bad decisions forced everything to go south in feedback, Sega decided to cut their losses and begin the downport to Vita and wrap up game development on VAR early as a financial safety measure. Hence reusing the same 4 maps over and over, and the same three bosses over and over.
Media Vision can only work with what they're given and on the direction from above, and in this case they didn't have much. I would never use this game as a test of MV's abilities.
DongBeetle
Banned
Just watched the first 24 minutes and holy shit are the cutscenes bad
They get way worse than that in terms of direction.
shark sandwich
tenuously links anime, pedophile and incels
Sega's goal of turning Valkyria into a generic animu JRPG turd is now complete.
chrominance
Member
I'm going to guess it's because a) this feels like a safer venue for criticism, and b) because not that many people are actually going to buy the game based on its noxious reputation, so the review thread is a more natural place to discuss other people's impressions.