VGChampion
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Looking at those photo's, I gotta say, I think NSMB graphics are the best for this 4 player co-op. Second best would be SNES Mario.
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GAF Imagines: What if 'New Super Mario Bros Wii' was not based on the DS game? (Pics)
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plagiarize
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thank you for saving the thread.DavidDayton said:
like the 2.5d graphics better, but you've got to keep teh PIXALS if you're going to do something like this.
Princess Skittles
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That's a zillion times better.DavidDayton said:
What I don't get is why Nintendo does not utilize the anti-aliasing capabilities of their own hardware. I mean, for a game where it's so painfully obvious how efficiently you could cull what's not on the screen, why not spend those extra cycles on anti-aliasing even if you have to do it through re-rendering?
Nintendo, here is a "cook book" for implementing anti-aliasing in games with trivial rendering and cycles to spare (like this one...):
1. Allocate memory for N textures, as many as you want sub-pixels.
2. Specify the offsets for your N sub-pixels.
3. Render your scene N times -- remember to offset the camera slightly in each iteration according to previously specified sub-pixel offsets, and then copy to texture.
4. Render a textured quad; your hardware supports texture combiners, so make use of those: Simply average the samples of your N textures, and finally copy to display.
5. You are done!
P.S: You're welcome.
Nintendo, here is a "cook book" for implementing anti-aliasing in games with trivial rendering and cycles to spare (like this one...):
1. Allocate memory for N textures, as many as you want sub-pixels.
2. Specify the offsets for your N sub-pixels.
3. Render your scene N times -- remember to offset the camera slightly in each iteration according to previously specified sub-pixel offsets, and then copy to texture.
4. Render a textured quad; your hardware supports texture combiners, so make use of those: Simply average the samples of your N textures, and finally copy to display.
5. You are done!
P.S: You're welcome.
infinityBCRT
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I think the lack of anti-aliasing has something to do with the displeasure for the look of it.DavidDayton said:
ShockingAlberto
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There's been a lot of (purposeful) FUD about this game. The people who originally spread that this is just a DS port with multiplayer knew it wasn't, but then they got more people to believe it, so it's now more than just a crazed man yelling about pirates throughout the village.DavidDayton said:
Pai Pai Master
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Yep. Shoulda used Paper Mario style.
HisshouBuraiKen
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ascii42 said:
Yeah, after Luigi
I will never play level 4-3 so long as I liveGuybrush Threepwood
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What if it looked like this?
NorrenRadd
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Thank you for making this comparison. I was honestly wondering what it would look like and in the end I am completely happy with the art on NSMB Wii. I think it looks fantastic. The graphics of the old games have nostalgia but make my eyes bleed.
ShockingAlberto
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Then it would be unplayable.Guybrush Threepwood said:What if it looked like this?
ShockingAlberto
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I haven't played Braid past the demo, but isn't a pretty slow paced and peaceful game that doesn't punish you for mistakes?Kodiak said:
It's also quite a bit brighter and clearer than the picture above, which should hang in an I Am 8-Bit presentation and not really be emulated for a Mario game.
EmCeeGramr
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oh god luigi nooooooooDavidDayton said:
ShockingAlberto
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Well, yeah, I was commenting solely on the picture posted.Kodiak said:
If it was created in mind with playability first and style second, I'd be all for it.
It reminds me of an anecdote about Yoshi's Island. When it was first pitched, it had graphics similar to Mario World. Nintendo higher-ups (of which Miyamoto apparently wasn't at that point) asked him to change it to something like Donkey Kong Country, which was getting a lot of attention for its graphics. Miyamoto, never being a fan of the Rare games, decided to go the opposite way and go for a children's crayon look. The core of the game remained the same and he made the artstyle fit around it.
If they wanted a water color look for the next Mario game, I wouldn't mind it. But they absolutely need to focus it on playability first, which I don't think that picture accurately demonstrates.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually think Nintendo made the right decision to ape NSMB DS. It suggests the look and feel of the 8-bit and 16-bit Marios while looking more modern at the same time.
That said, I'd personally kill for a variation that used SMB2 sprites and content. Like someone else here said earlier, I can just imagine the orgasms I'd have while fighting a boss with three other players - all of us pulling up turnips and tossing them at the baddie...
That said, I'd personally kill for a variation that used SMB2 sprites and content. Like someone else here said earlier, I can just imagine the orgasms I'd have while fighting a boss with three other players - all of us pulling up turnips and tossing them at the baddie...
ShockingAlberto
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He might be talking about YIDS. Which is almost universally disliked.epmode said:
I really loved it, though. Got extremely fun for me at the end.
tetrisgrammaton
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mario bros. 2 is the obvious answer
JoshuaJSlone
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I like both at times, but I just wanted to throw out one based on your image to show an example that comes across somewhat less blurry than those in the OP. It would be even less blurry buuuut this one is based on tripling size, so bringing it back down to double size results in more colors being added that aren't in the original.DavidDayton said:
Filters are evil.
ShockingAlberto
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Filters give me a weird uncanny valley vibe.
Like, I look at them and my mind goes "That's not how it's supposed to look! Cringe at it!"
Like, I look at them and my mind goes "That's not how it's supposed to look! Cringe at it!"
My opinion is that Super Mario Bros Wii is ok as it is. But if Nintendo were to make a WiiWare game 4 player local coop with Mario/Luigi/Peach/Toad trough levels I'd choose Super Mario World art style and Super Mario Bros 2 as for boss design/level design.
I would also include Super Mario Bros 3 items and powerups because they were so awesome.
Again, I want you to remember that Megaman 9 was an approach yes old school but also a downloadable game. Nintendo is trying to make a full new game that will be full priced.
I would also include Super Mario Bros 3 items and powerups because they were so awesome.
Again, I want you to remember that Megaman 9 was an approach yes old school but also a downloadable game. Nintendo is trying to make a full new game that will be full priced.
Then I might never play it. Some of that artist's works look good (if it's the same one I think it is) even in a game context, but Mario's tended to use abstraction with uniform colors and unnaturally-symmetrical patterns. This is adding a layer of realism that I'd never want in a series centered around a concept as archetypically-simplistic and rooted in fantasy history as a hero defeating a monster and saving a princess.Guybrush Threepwood said:What if it looked like this?
JoshuaJSlone said:I like both at times, but I just wanted to throw out one based on your image to show an example that comes across somewhat less blurry than those in the OP. It would be even less blurry buuuut this one is based on tripling size, so bringing it back down to double size results in more colors being added that aren't in the original.
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Do you honestly think that looks BETTER than the following?
The filtered picture is a goofy looking, blurred out mess. It lacks detail and subtlety (see Mario's mustache, for a good example). It looks like a badly done bit of tracing.
It's interesting what can be done with a filter, mind you, but it doesn't look good.
HisshouBuraiKen
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What if it looked like brawl? Take the graphical style of SSE and combine it with (N)SMB mechanics.
JoshuaJSlone
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I think it depends. The complete retro look by plain integer pixel multiplication is cool, but I also find a charm in what essentially becomes a vector graphic interpretation of the retro. Different scaling methods for different situations.DavidDayton said:
