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Wozman23
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(04-19-2017, 04:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by maxcriden

Might the Metroid Prime and Captain Toad games, respectively, count for these categories? The character does have feet, but no legs.

It's been a long time since I played Metroid Prime, but it felt like a somewhat traditional shooter. Maybe the genre should be called First Person Shooters Where The Projectiles Aren't Designed To Kill Enemies.

I guess I should have included feet as well, otherwise Rayman also fits the bill. Toad can't join the club because he walks.
Rygar 8 Bit
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(04-19-2017, 04:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by vonStirlitz

That genre must have passed me by. Seems so niche.

http://fmvworld.com/allgames.html
Dr.Social
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(04-19-2017, 04:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by duckroll

Action shooter series turned into turn based strategy game

The Earth Defence Force Tactics


Ghost Recon: Shadow Wars

Metal Gear Acid 1 and 2



Originally Posted by Glowsquid

Yeah! It's a surprisingly good game. Sick soundtrack too.

3D platformer racers

Running Wild

mclem
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(04-19-2017, 05:02 PM)

Originally Posted by Dragonslayer_023

The Falling Object Collectathon

Boulderdash



Boulderbash



Supaplex


Infotron

Repton, maybe, although the physics are different in a few key ways - boulders fall instantly, so there's no 'outrunning'.



Bonecruncher's an obscure one with an interesting mechanic - it's actually viewed from top-down, and the attractive force isn't gravity, but the smell of soap being made (don't ask)... and that changes as you proceed through the level making soap in different places.



There's Emerald Mine, which I know very little about (but will become relevant when I talk about RND!)



I think you might tentatively include Kye:



...and XOR...



...as being in broadly the same family, although each introduces a lot more elements that aren't part of the main Boulderdash model.


There's also a freeware game that is more of an engine for all of this family of titles; and indeed, Boulderdash, Supaplex and Emerald Mine are all included in it that I can recall - probably others as well (I think there's Sokoban in there, too, although that's not really the same family, the engine's trivially expandable to that!). That's the aforementioned RND, Rocks 'n' Diamonds:

Stumpokapow
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(04-19-2017, 05:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by RionaaM

Does B-Hunter count? It has an optional first person camera.



BHunter is so good. A friend gave me a pirated copy on a burnt CD somewhere near release and I've never seen anyone talk about it then or since; and I've never seen a copy for sale (even Amazon just shows what looks to be a used copy of a budget reprint of the game); and it's never been available digitally. Total bummer. That epic Stadium showdown mission :wow:
mrklaw
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(04-19-2017, 06:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dragonslayer_023

The Falling Object Collectathon

Boulderdash
Boulderbash
Supaplex
Infotron

Also Repton series on thr BBC micro


Originally Posted by Phediuk

Golf games with a combat element
Ninja Golf
Outlaw Golf
Aqua Teen Hunger Force Zombie Ninja Pro-Am

100ft robot golf?
That odd criterion game where you smash stuff with a golf ball?
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(04-19-2017, 06:39 PM)
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Games where you fly a triangle like in asteroids but with gravity - or lunar lander evolutions

- thrust / thrust 2
- gravity force
- oids (always jealous of ST owners for this)

Any modern suggestions welcome 'cause I love 'em
Phediuk
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(04-19-2017, 07:03 PM)

Originally Posted by mrklaw

Games where you fly a triangle like in asteroids but with gravity - or lunar lander evolutions

- thrust / thrust 2
- gravity force
- oids (always jealous of ST owners for this)

Any modern suggestions welcome 'cause I love 'em

Subterrania and Solar Jetman.
Platy
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(04-19-2017, 07:12 PM)
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How about stop-motion based sprites in a 2d view ?

Clayfighter, Skullmonkeys, Primal Rage, Platypus (indie shmup)...

Originally Posted by mrklaw

Games where you fly a triangle like in asteroids but with gravity - or lunar lander evolutions

- thrust / thrust 2
- gravity force
- oids (always jealous of ST owners for this)

Any modern suggestions welcome 'cause I love 'em

Battletoads & Double Dragon had a bonus stage like that xD
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(04-19-2017, 07:20 PM)
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Side-on dogfighting games

- wings of fury
- Sky kid
- dogfight (BBC)
Sumio Mondo
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(04-19-2017, 07:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by PooBone

Mansion games:
Games that take place primarily exploring one house.

Maniac Mansion


Resident Evil 1 (and 7 to some extent)


Gone Home


Please name some others, I tend to love them.

Mansion of Hidden Souls (SEGA CD)
Mansion of Hidden Souls (Saturn)

Both different games.

I also recommend the following to you since they are all set in one location normally (the first and the third in one house particularly):

Survival horror with cameras used as the combat device against the paranormal:



Fatal Frame series (Tecmo)...and that's it.

Survival horror with found footage aesthetic and interactive movie gameplay:




Michigan: Report from Hell (Grasshopper Manufacture)

Pixel hunt point & click adventure game meets RTS base building meets interactive movie (complete with RPG style party members that join you) with incredibly creepy/weird atmosphere and VA, set against a humans, beasts and dinosaurs living together setting (with a 10/10 music soundtrack).











Lost Eden (Cryo)
Thraktor
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(04-19-2017, 07:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by More_Badass

I guess Spacechem and its ilk are another, the puzzler that seems like it's about some other theme but is really secretly about programming. The idea is that it can't actually feature coding (so TIS is out), but the mechanics are actually abstracted programming functions

SpaceChem


Infinifactory

Factorio pretty much fits into this genre, although it's not really a puzzle game.

Originally Posted by Wozman23

Platformers with No Legs or No Jumping:

Snake Pass:


Mushroom 11:

Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker is the pinnacle of the "platform games where you can't jump" genre.

Originally Posted by Blizzard

I like this thread. I'll try: Top-down Cooperative Games That Go Horribly Wrong And Destroy Friendships

Magicka 1, and I assume Magicka 2:


Overcooked:

Monaco is worth adding to this list.
RionaaM
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(04-19-2017, 07:53 PM)

Originally Posted by Stumpokapow

BHunter is so good. A friend gave me a pirated copy on a burnt CD somewhere near release and I've never seen anyone talk about it then or since; and I've never seen a copy for sale (even Amazon just shows what looks to be a used copy of a budget reprint of the game); and it's never been available digitally. Total bummer. That epic Stadium showdown mission :wow:

You're totally right, there's been basically zero discussion about it on the internet. Even searching for it on Google doesn't get you much info about the game. I still have the copy that came with a gaming magazine 17 years ago, though we couldn't get it to run on my friend's PC when we tried it 2 years or so ago. Man, that game was fun!
Dr.Social
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(04-19-2017, 07:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Platy

How about stop-motion based sprites in a 2d view ?

Claymates



Originally Posted by mrklaw

Side-on dogfighting games

Luftrausers

Altitude

Phediuk
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(04-19-2017, 08:18 PM)
Mission-based boating games

Cobra Triangle


Bimini Run


Blood Wake

Aqua: Naval Warfare

I think there's a C64 game I'm forgetting and it's driving me nuts.
mrklaw
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(04-19-2017, 08:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by Phediuk

Mission-based boating games

Cobra Triangle

Bimini Run


Blood Wake


Aqua: Naval Warfare


I think there's a C64 game I'm forgetting and it's driving me nuts.


Typhoon Thompson?
Accoun
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(04-19-2017, 08:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Glowsquid

3D platformer racers

Millennium Racer: Y2k Fighters is kinda like that.

(not the best video to link, since later tracks are more platforming-heavy, but at least it's decent quality)

By the way: apparently someone found a build of an unreleased Dreamcast port in a devkit recently.
ichtyander
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(04-19-2017, 08:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sumio Mondo

Lost Eden (Cryo)

You could also add Cryo's Dune since Lost Eden is essentially the same blueprint (the protagonist even looks like Feyd-Rautha/Sting).

Originally Posted by Phediuk

Mission-based boating gamesI think there's a C64 game I'm forgetting and it's driving me nuts.

Maybe Gunboat? I used to play this a bit, think I only had the first level on tape.
Zeta Oni
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(04-19-2017, 08:44 PM)
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Third person action titles where your characters attacks are fully customizable rather than preset


Phantom Dust

Soul Sacrifice

Remember Me

Fancolors
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(04-19-2017, 08:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by jdstorm

Any Turn based 2D fighters?

Try Yomi. It is a card based fighting game.
Teknopathetic
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(04-19-2017, 08:53 PM)
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Action games where you place traps and manipulate AI into them
Heiankyo Alien


Lode Runner


Lode Runner 2


Tecmo's Deception



Top down Action games where you shove blocks to destroy enemies

Sega's Pengo



Pirate Ship Higemaru


Nyan Nyan Panic


Kickle Cubicle


Three Wonders ~Don't Pull~
Phediuk
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(04-19-2017, 08:59 PM)

Originally Posted by Teknopathetic

Action games where you place traps and manipulate AI into them
Heiankyo Alien


Lode Runner


Lode Runner 2


Tecmo's Deception

Spy vs. Spy and its derivatives (such as Trap Gunner) would be the multiplayer version of this.

Also, Haunting starring Polterguy is a variation based on "spooking" your adversaries rather than trapping them.
Phediuk
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(04-19-2017, 09:09 PM)
Side-scrollers where your character's sprite is monstrously huge and you have to jump over ankle-high obstacles

Snoopy


China Warrior


Sword of Sodan

Screaming Meat
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(04-19-2017, 09:13 PM)
Eyyy Balance of Power!
Blizzard
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(04-19-2017, 09:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Thraktor

Monaco is worth adding to this list.

It figures I was forgetting one!

"Trust me, I won't set off the alarm."
Glowsquid
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(04-19-2017, 09:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Phediuk

Mission-based boating games

.

Would Atari's arcade game Hydra count?
Accoun
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(04-19-2017, 09:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by Teknopathetic

Tecmo's Deception

This reminds me I bought Deception IV a few months ago and haven't even touched it yet.
Rudimental
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(04-19-2017, 09:56 PM)
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Space derelict exploration strategy games with skeuomorphic interfaces

Space Hulk

Deadnaut

Host Samurai
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(04-19-2017, 10:29 PM)
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Stalker Horror

Resident Evil 3
Clock Tower
Haunting Ground
Outlast
Alien Isolation

Souls

Dark Souls
Bloodborne
Ni Oh
PtM
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(04-19-2017, 10:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zeta Oni

Third person action titles where your characters attacks are fully customizable rather than preset


Phantom Dust



Soul Sacrifice



Remember Me

God Hand. This doesn't feel much like a genre to me.

Originally Posted by Mutant

Has anybody mentioned earthbound clones yet?

Undertale, Lisa. Citizens of Earth.

Or avant-garderpgs.

Space Funeral, some others I forgot

Yes, but not all of those, I believe.
Mutant
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(04-19-2017, 10:35 PM)
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Has anybody mentioned earthbound clones yet?

Undertale, Lisa. Citizens of Earth.

Or avant-garderpgs.

Space Funeral, Hylics, Yuma Nikki. some others I forgot
Zeta Oni
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(04-20-2017, 12:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by PtM

God Hand. This doesn't feel much like a genre to me.

Yes, but not all of those, I believe.

Godhand (now that you mention it), soul sacrifice, and Phantom Dust all play like they all could be part of a smaller genre of games which is what I was going for, remember me not as much.
Vitet
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(04-20-2017, 12:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by Phediuk

Overhead-view open-world-y pirate sims

Don't forget the 1987 Microprose "Pirates!"



Phediuk
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(04-20-2017, 01:17 AM)

Originally Posted by Vitet

Don't forget the 1987 Microprose "Pirates!"



I didn't, it's the first one in my post.
mclem
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(04-20-2017, 01:19 AM)

Originally Posted by heckmanimation

PnC Adventure RPG - Quest for Glory series

If you broaden it a bit to just 'Adventure RPG' - therefore including text adventures - Beyond Zork comes into the fray.
petran79
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(04-20-2017, 01:26 AM)
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Lost Patrol

survival action role-playing game with strategy elements

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Patrol_(video_game)

According to Roberto Dillon's 2011 book The Golden Age of Video Games, it was "a unique game among military and combat simulations" that "offered a different perspective on war from any other game released before or since ... showing there is no glory in war but only pain and destruction.






Platy
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(04-20-2017, 02:13 AM)
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since pretty much every other post I made was on the phone, here is one more for some pics:

Platformers where the focus is controlling the level, not the character

Super Monkey Ball


Koroninpa


Mercury Meltdown


And Yet it Moves
PtM
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(04-20-2017, 02:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by Platy

Platformers where the focus is controlling the level, not the character

Fluidity/Hydroventure 1 and 2
Platy
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(04-20-2017, 03:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by PtM

Fluidity/Hydroventure 1 and 2

DAMN I love those games (specialy the first one) ... sad that I forgot about it !

Here is a true MICROgenre :

Puzzle Action games where you have to move ever rotating things trough obstacles

Kuru Kuru Kururin


Roundabout
charlequin
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(04-20-2017, 05:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by RubberJohnny

Earthbound/Mother-Likes

Why Am I Dead at Sea

Wozman23
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(04-20-2017, 05:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by Platy

Platformers where the focus is controlling the level, not the character

Tumbleseed, coming out May 2nd, is kind of the 2D version of that concept.

Phediuk
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(04-20-2017, 05:49 AM)
Here's another one for the "fantasy reskin of previously-existing turn-based strategy game" microgenre, to accompany Master of Magic (Master of Orion), Gemfire (Romance of the Three Kingdoms), Fantasy General (Panzer General), and Master of Monsters (Daisenryaku):

Lords of Magic (Lords of the Realm):

Baron Von Beans
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(04-20-2017, 06:00 AM)
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How about world sim/ town building with rpg and light character action games?

- Dark Cloud


- Actraiser 1



Wanted to post before I passed out. Links seem broken. On mobile, and will correct in morning
JinjoUnchained
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(04-20-2017, 06:08 AM)
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Modern "Nintendo Hard" Indie Platformers:

La Mulana
Super Meat Boy
Volgar the Viking
Glowsquid
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(04-20-2017, 06:11 AM)
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Sidescrolling action games with real goofy digitzed sprites

Batman Forever



Timecop



Shinobi Legions

Lotto
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(04-20-2017, 06:26 AM)
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Games where you talk to a fish that has a human face and it talks back because you have no friends

ThoseDeafMutes
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(04-20-2017, 06:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by Phediuk


Cold war simulators where you stare at a map the whole time and watch helplessly as the world veers toward nuclear war

Shadow President


Balance of Power


Defcon

DEFCON isn't really a cold war simulator, it has any of 6 continents you can play as and has no political or historical content.

There is one good one I can think of though, which is based on a board game, Twilight Struggle

BetterThanNothing
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(04-20-2017, 06:48 AM)
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Zeno Clash belongs in the FPS brawler category.

It could also belong in the Made With Source Engine but isn't made by Valve or simply a mod extreme microgenre, along with Vampire: Masquerade and Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, and that SIN game.
PassiveObserver
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Originally Posted by Lotto

Games where you talk to a fish that has a human face and it talks back because you have no friends

Don't forget Seaman 2.

Phediuk
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(04-20-2017, 07:09 AM)

Originally Posted by ThoseDeafMutes

DEFCON isn't really a cold war simulator, it has any of 6 continents you can play as and has no political or historical content.

There is one good one I can think of though, which is based on a board game, Twilight Struggle

There's also Armageddon Man, aka Global Commander:

http://www.mobygames.com/game/global-commander

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