SinCityAssassin
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In the vicinity, but not quite.
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Dark Cloud
Member
Yeah. Even people who really dislike the Rabbids will get it because of the quality of the game.
Count me in for 2 copies
Oh my 😮
Why ya gotta dis ARMS?
I think Mario SRPG will do marvelously as well. It's a novel idea with what looks to be great exectution.
Can't say I'm getting it though. I'll be too busy saving up for the bloodbath next month. I'lll get before the years out though.
~650k actually.
pretty done
Member
It's not in the top 10 though?
Unless you mean Switch top 10 which likely doesn't equate to many sales. I doubt Cars Driven to Win and FATE/ANIMU are pushing many units and they're in similar spots.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
How could you of all people forget fire enblem
Jaded Alyx
Member
I don't see it.
DecoReturns
Member
He's referring to console strategy games.
Last console Fire Emblem was 2008, Radiant Dawn. Which bombed.
Humdinger
Member
Early speculation was that it was < 105K, but additional info suggests that is an underestimate. We're waiting on the prediction thread data to give a more accurate estimate.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Starfox 64 is my favorite game in the series, I'm tired of it, the last like 3 games have been doing nothing but catering to fans of that game, we need a refinement and continuation of starfox assault., we get nowhere just demanding starfox64 again, please God no.
Pretty sure that was first 3 days.
Alright, but the 7 days after those days yielded only 105k or so.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Ah, that makes sense
sixteen-bit
Member
when gta vi drops prolly
I agree with your point of view but on the other end you have to ask the question why developers / publishers released fewer games? Probably because they were not getting the desired sales/profits from them. But I don't think that developer / publishers released fewer games because they felt so. Or may be because games are taking longer to be made shop fewer games are made. Or may be because number of people required to develop a game has increased exponentially so a studio can't release more then one game in 2 years even after increase in number of developers where they were Previously able to release a game a year. Like we are so waiting for first game from Santa Monica studios polyphony studios media molecule and we are in the fourth year of the console.
Correct, no matter how much I love Radiant Dawn and PoR they didn't do well at all.
I might have missed Civ Revolution though which I think did pretty well.
Interficium
Banned
no..... gaf told me this is a franchise on it's last legs... how.... how can this be...
Dear Mat I have one question, I hope you can answer. How the exclusives of PS4 had impacted softwares sales of PS4. Let me explain it...
Had it expanded the market like PS4 owners bought regular 3Rd party and catalog titles in the same numbers and additionally have bought PS4 exclusives or the sales or the sales of other titles have been negatively impacted or the sales of other titles have positively impacted, more people bought PS4 because of exclusives and then they bought 3Rd party titles and catalog titles also.
I think this question has multiple dimension. Sales in terms on numbers, sales in term of percentage with respect to PS4 exclusives, sales of 3Rd party titles with respect to the sales of 3Rd party on Xbox one. And may be other ways.
But your comment on this subject will be very worthy.
Had it expanded the market like PS4 owners bought regular 3Rd party and catalog titles in the same numbers and additionally have bought PS4 exclusives or the sales or the sales of other titles have been negatively impacted or the sales of other titles have positively impacted, more people bought PS4 because of exclusives and then they bought 3Rd party titles and catalog titles also.
I think this question has multiple dimension. Sales in terms on numbers, sales in term of percentage with respect to PS4 exclusives, sales of 3Rd party titles with respect to the sales of 3Rd party on Xbox one. And may be other ways.
But your comment on this subject will be very worthy.
Welfare
Member
Infinite Warfare doing ~50% of Black Ops 3 still makes it the best selling game for the past year.
I'm still surprised IW pulls in less revenue than Black Ops 3. That's just a failure for the series and hopefully WW2 pulls it back.
Hm, Why are MK8 and MK8D counted together?
Remasters aren't usually are they?
was Last of US and Last of US PS4 counted together? I don't remember.
it will.
However, I do wonder about it's first month.
A couple of Swtich games have debuted lower than I thought. It's starting to make me wonder if Xenoblade 2 can even match the 200k of X, given the debuts for bigger games so far.
even if it doesn't it'll have better legs though due to the userbase growing at least.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
Do we know how much Tekken 7 in place 20 sold?
twothunder
Member
Zelda and Mario kart staying strong
they really are the "pick up with a Switch " games
Still. That's why i am more happy to see ARMS and Splatoon 2 in the charts
Especially good to see Splatoon at number one. Hope it and ARMS keep going
I wonder about their digital sales though
Also. Switch at number one. Hope nintendo can keep the stock somewhat going
Also. Congrats to Crash. Doing just as well as in Europe
they really are the "pick up with a Switch " games
Still. That's why i am more happy to see ARMS and Splatoon 2 in the charts
Especially good to see Splatoon at number one. Hope it and ARMS keep going
I wonder about their digital sales though
Also. Switch at number one. Hope nintendo can keep the stock somewhat going
Also. Congrats to Crash. Doing just as well as in Europe
I imagine it's pretty heavily in Deluxe's favor.
What was Splatoon's debut?
SinCityAssassin
Member
Placed 5th at 136k.
I know it does not matter for our purposes but IW is a much better SP experience than BLOPS3. Clearly no one cares and I think WWII will show that people still want "boots on the ground".
That's what I thought about MK8 numbers. I suppose the split for MK8 Wii U is negligible meanwhile the percentage for BotW Wii U is still somewhat relevant (15-20%). Anyway, thanks for answering Mat!
SinCityAssassin
Member
Why's that? Did the NPD also lump remaster up-ports with the original title too? Cause I don't actually remember.
OK, that makes sense. Was this effect something that you were not expecting, when you started to integrate the digital sales to your analysis, or did it fall well within your guesstimates?
Just that you mentioned super genres (e.g. Shooter) and Genres (1st person shooter). Is the complete list of all super genres and genres available somewhere for us weirdly interested nerds to check out? How big of a headache is it to categorize games nowadays?
I just have this annoying habit of responding to my boss's requests for reports by asking, what kinds of decisions will be made based on the information. (Often I get a blank stare in response.) If somebody asked me to calculate game revenues by genres, I would likely ask something exactly like that.
Of course, in your case, the answer might be: "Think carefully, how much you want my money, and then you might want to rephrase the question"...
yeah, if it happens it'd just be really weird to see a game like xenoblade debut about the same as ARMS, which had a lot of promotion, etc. Userbase will be bigger at least. And maybe switch has cultivated a small rpg fanbase so far
ARMS is a new IP, a fighting game (niche category) and is launching in may against Xenoblade 2 in the holidays. I wouldn't be surprised if Xenoblade 2 launches higher than ARMS, despite a less important marketing budget allowed.
do jrpgs get bumps from holiday launches?
It always struck me as a genre that could launch whenever.
Dark Cloud
Member
Please I want Xenoblade 2 to sell more than the first two games. I hope Japan comes through since it's on a system that's pretty much a handheld.
whyamihere
Banned
Barring critical revulsion, I feel like it's fairly likely XC2 will sell better than XC and XCX. Whether it actually sells well is another story.
There's no doubt it will imo. Japan and anywhere.
MatPiscatella
Member
Yes, they are.
Case by case basis. Again, tough one to categorize.
Very short answer? Generally, games got much more expensive/time consuming to make, and the potential return gains didn't keep up with cost increases (you cover a bunch of the reasons why in your post).
Know why Games as a Service is what it is right now and getting more and more popular ? Because live plans allow for the returns to meet or exceed, very generally speaking, those cost increases.
Was expected.
Sure:
As part of any long range business planning exercise for a publisher, a basic understanding of sales trends among Super Genres and Genres is a need. It's part of the basic fact gathering for the market.
MDSLKTR
Member
Why do we still play it guys
MatPiscatella
Member
Driving oriented Action
Action oriented Driving
Get me off this wild ride
YOU'RE TELLING ME
Honestly though, a lot of the genres are dinosaurs from the 90s, and with so much genre bleed today in games it's really hard to categorize them.
James Scott
Banned
It needs to be at least as good as the first game.
But it probably has the best chance out of any game in the franchise.
On Wii it took awhile to localize and it was pirated over a million times.
On Wii U...it was on Wii U.
Here it's on a healthy system early on and the first modern portable AAA JRPG
KillerMan91
Member
JRPGs are generally just as ''niche'' as fighting games. Few big series (Pokemon and FF) and huge gap after that.
I mean, just looking at this year's top 10, For Honor is #3 (and is a new IP to boot), Injustice 2 is #6, and there's not a single JRPG in sight.
For Honor is just behind Final Fantasy XV on the trailing 12 month chart to boot, which includes the full lifecycle of both games, and is missing significant uPlay PC sales for For Honor.
KillerMan91
Member
Oh yeah. For some reason didn't even think about For Honor. Then when you factor that there are also Smash and Mortal Kombat that sell millions in US JRPGs are actually decent bit more niche than fighting games. I don't even know can we use term niche for fighting games when you look at all these titles.
It was the bomb, yes. Harder initially than Path of Radiance, but it seemed to be meant as a follow-on for those who were already familiar with Path of Radiance, anyways. /obliviousness
Yeah, FE was on the verge of death before Awakening. That's why they threw everything under the sun into it. DLC of old games, marriage system, anime style, etc. They figured if it was their last one, they'd go out having given their all. What a turnaround. Hope there is a GC/Wii VC on Switch and they bring out Path of Radiance/Radiant Dawn to a new audience!
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
It just makes me wonder what kind of budget fire emblem switch is gonna have, it could potentially be the most expensive SRPG ever made.