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3D Space Harrier coming to 3DS
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345triangle
Member
this looks absolutely fantastic. will buy boxing day one.
if they do the same for outrun i'll buy another 3DS just so i can buy that twice.
if they do the same for outrun i'll buy another 3DS just so i can buy that twice.
Anuxinamoon
Shaper Divine
Aaaarrrrghhhhhhh!
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Get ready!
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Get ready!
abstract alien
Member
I still don't understand why these things take so damn long to happen. This should have came out a year ago.
I applaud all the the effort here, but personally I find it hard to think of a worse-aging game genre than sprite-based scaling 3D shooting games. Even well before the proliferation of actual polygonal 3D, they always felt janky and imprecise to me, a half-step to actual 3D that just never felt like it was pulled off right. I understand why it's the first thing being jumped at for a 3D conversion, but I'd much rather see sidescrolling 2D games get the treatment with the 3D effect used to separate parallax layers. That may lack the obvious novelty factor of 'into-the-screen' 3D, but those types of games have just generally aged much better and a 3D effect on layers actually looks pretty damn spiffy, even though it's not particularly aiding the gameplay in any capacity.
ninjatrigg
Neo Member
I don't care... this game was fun as shit, and I want to play it more than ever.
Sega wasn't in full-on digital mode a year ago.
Reluctant-Hero
Member
Release date set for 12/26, 600 yen.
Includes a "moving cabinet" mode that replicates being inside an arcade cabinet and makes the screen adjust to the player's movement (screens demonstrating this below). Also features environmental sound settings that were used in Space Harrier's cabinet. Supports d-pad, circlepad, and the touchscreen for controls. Harrier movement range has 3 stages to it that can be adjusted. B button set to rapid fire shot. Input 3 credits for consecutive play. Can select stages after playing them once. Includes a time trial mode where lives don't decrease for 60 seconds after starting. Supports savestates. Can save 1 replay, as well.
More screens at the link, including some screens of the settings menu:
http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20121219_579344.html
Bought! Where's my US release date?!
abstract alien
Member
It doesn't take that much effort to release a premade game though, does it? I mean, companies far smaller than sega have released titles on the eShop. Asking out of honest curiosity, because I dont get it.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
Member
I don't even like this game much and I can't wait to buy it!
Azure Dream
Member
It's quite unlikely they're porting the original game, and certainly not running it via VC-style emulation. This is probably much closer to the PS2 NiGHTS (which was ported to XBLA/PSN/PC), where they basically had to rebuild the game based on reverse engineering and what they could rip.
Even for an older game, that does take a lot of time.
Also, this would be the perfect way to rerelease the otherwise short and tricky to replicate SegaSonic Arcade (local multiplayer, touch screen as track ball).
Well, the first point is that we don't know how long it's actually taken to develop, so it's impossible to speculate on whether it took an inordinate length of time or whatever. If they only started it six months ago then it's a pretty good turnaround.
Secondly, you can't really think of a release like this as a "premade game"; it's a remake of a 25-year-old game that was probably written in 68k/Z80 assembly, and we don't even know if they had the source code to work with, so it's not as straightforward as pure emulation (ie a Virtual Console release) or even a port, and it's gonna take even longer if you wanna do a good job, which they have.
Thirdly, there's a whole bunch of bureaucratic bullshit that can delay an eShop release for months after the game's done and submitted; these kinds of things are especially irritating for indie devs, but even big publishers like Sega get tripped up by them. You'll notice that this game still hasn't been announced outside of Japan--it'll be months before the rest of the world gets it, purely because of all the red tape they need to jump through in order to make it happen.
I think the website says there's an equalizer mode that lets you boost/cut individual channels/instruments, so that's cool.
Why would you do that?
Member
Haha, that's my thought too. It's the perfect game for 3D.
IrishNinja
Member
yeah, Harrier's not my absolute favorite classic sega franchise but i want this nonetheless, and wanna support the work going into it because it's a great choice & i wanna see more like it.
Zaxxon next!
Zaxxon next!
abstract alien
Member
Thanks. There is always more to the business than the surface would lead to believe, so it's good to get a little info that could shed some light onto it.
MidnightScott
Banned
I just saw it on the Japanese eshop it looked cool
CadetMahoney
Member
this.
Seven Force
Banned
Damn, sounds amazing. The moving cabinet option in particular makes me think AfterBurner's next up. No way they'd only use that for a single release.
Bjoern the Smexy
Member
Oh shit, touchscreen controls make this game HOPEFULLY play like Kid Icarus Uprising!
Where's my EU release date, Sega?!
How so? I thought it's out on 12/26 in Japan?
Where's my EU release date, Sega?!
How so? I thought it's out on 12/26 in Japan?
I don't think it's gonna let you aim independently of your character, if that's what you mean.
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
YES! 
Gonna be a nice little late Christmas present
Gonna be a nice little late Christmas present Galaxy Force too.
Azure Dream
Member
Probably a preview listing?
sechsterangriff
Member
I really want to get this, but I'm still on the fence on buying ditital content from the eShop. That hardware binding really needs to go.
wondermega
Member
oh god. Please
drool
anyway, this still sounds and looks awesome, I am loving every morsel of info that releases on it. Screens look janky, but in genuine presentation I will give them the benefit of the doubt until I see it for myself.
People will really need to buy the hell out of this, to encourage them to make more 3D redo's in this fashion. So keep that in mind if you are on the fence for whatever reason.
Anyway, at the end of the day I ultimately remain skeptical "sigh will it actually even get announced for a potential release in the US?" Since that's not been touched on at all, I will still not get my hopes up. But geez that'd be cool, and in fact this kind of stuff is genuinely all I really want for my 3DS anyway!
electroplankton
Banned
That seems a really nice effort from Sega!
Really?
I'm actually totally the opposite as I have always wanted to see what new sprite-scaling games such as racers would look like with today's hardware.
Sure, a lot of modern gamers would be probably find them disgusting since they are not 3D, but I just love the look and feel of these sprite-scaling games...
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Holy shit Virtua Racing in 3D or Super Hang On 3D...I'll give you moneys Sega! (don't overprice it please)
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
As awesome as this is, this is why I would never buy DDs from Nintendo. I don't know how anyone does it. It is the ultimate DD dealbreaker.
plagiarize
Banned
Super Hang On runs in 3D on PS3. It looks *great* even with the interlacing filter turned on.
Well, I did specifically mention shooters. I've always found it a bit hard in those games to get a clear sense of the point where the projectiles intersect with the plane the player is on and when they've passed, and the player's big ol' sprite obfuscating a lot of the playfield doesn't help any.
Racers are another bag, don't have nearly as much of a problem with the effect in them. I'd love to see Outrunners given this treatment.
Corleth the Fey
Member
The three S's for Europe next year, please Sega. Space Harrier, Skies of Arcadia and Shenmue.
Count Dookkake
Member
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olimpia84
Member
And NA too. I'll buy the crap out of those games if Sega re-releases them.
kunonabi
Member
How have I not heard of Sega Sonic Arcade?
Hot Coldman
Banned
I want to go to there.
Because it's not? It's bound to your hardware as long as you have your hardware with you but if you break it or just change it sor some reason (like a XL) you can redownload all your stuff on your new hardware.
DD are linked to the hardware which is linked to your nintendo.com account. Link your new hardware to your account and drop a mail to Nintendo and tada, your stuff is back.
It's not as flexible as Steam or X360 or PS3 where you can login with your account at a friend's place, but it's in no way completely tied to your hardware with everything gone as soon as it breaks.