GayForMaster
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Gateway 3DS: First working 3DS flashcart? [Still region locked]
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You don't represent 6 billion people. 6 billion 3DS owners.
Starwolf_UK
Member
From the video: I'm guessing the game data is still encrypted as I've heard nothing of encryption keys being leaked. In that case that includes the header information and the region code. Basically all this does is acts like you've put the cartridge in.
Unless it has some drive hacking ninjitsu and it somehow able to feed a region free header (Wii drive hacks aka modchips had a buggy region free working despite the discs being encrpyted and not keys being leaked). But like I said before, if you're showing off the product that is exactly the feature you would show off. Since it has not happened (or they picked only English games).
Unless it has some drive hacking ninjitsu and it somehow able to feed a region free header (Wii drive hacks aka modchips had a buggy region free working despite the discs being encrpyted and not keys being leaked). But like I said before, if you're showing off the product that is exactly the feature you would show off. Since it has not happened (or they picked only English games).
Keep publishers happy, stop counterfeit proliferation (if you have to make per region it makes it more expensive). I still think the eShop should have been region free or some sort of lagged version (say after a year of release something goes region free, a year allows plenty of time to distribute in other regions if you want).
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Look at the psp.
I'm torn on this. I know the opinion on GAF seems to be that the people that "want to carry their games on one card" have no argument because so many games are available digitally, but... I do still like buying physical copies of my games. Call me old fashioned if you like, but I do enjoy having that nice line of game cases and games on my shelf, and I like being able to pop them in my system and play them, even if I swap out said system for a new model or new color, or whatever the next handheld happens to be (assuming they keep a modicum of backwards compatibility as Nintendo usually does). So.... I do tend to limit my digital game buying for anything outside of my PC.
I have a Card Case 18 I got from Club Nintendo, so carrying 18 games around doesn't exactly take up a lot of space, but as a guy that's accidentally left that card case 18 behind at the office or at a friend's house.... I can tell you it's pretty heart wrenching to feel like you just lost $500+ worth of games in a single moment of irresponsibility. Luckily I work around some honest folks and have never lost my games, but I've made too many hurried drives back to the office at weird hours to retrieve my games! So.... something like this DOES have some appeal to me even as a legit gamer (I have 1200+ games, all legit... I pay my dues to the industry). It would be nice to take my games around with me and not have to worry about losing a large wad of money if I leave the case or card behind.
But really it's trivial... outside of long trips or conventions I can get by with 1-2 games plus all my virtual console, eShop only, and ambassador titles. Also there's the disadvantage of not being able to move your saves to the legitimate games, so you essentially have a bin full of games just for the sake of making it feel legal and nothing else, as playing on the cart means starting over.
So yes, I understand the argument of wanting all your games in one easy to transport package, but the Card Case 18 is brilliant for that.... just make sure to chain it to your person so you don't leave it behind.
Now breaking the region-lock..... well that's a different matter altogether!
I have a Card Case 18 I got from Club Nintendo, so carrying 18 games around doesn't exactly take up a lot of space, but as a guy that's accidentally left that card case 18 behind at the office or at a friend's house.... I can tell you it's pretty heart wrenching to feel like you just lost $500+ worth of games in a single moment of irresponsibility. Luckily I work around some honest folks and have never lost my games, but I've made too many hurried drives back to the office at weird hours to retrieve my games! So.... something like this DOES have some appeal to me even as a legit gamer (I have 1200+ games, all legit... I pay my dues to the industry). It would be nice to take my games around with me and not have to worry about losing a large wad of money if I leave the case or card behind.
But really it's trivial... outside of long trips or conventions I can get by with 1-2 games plus all my virtual console, eShop only, and ambassador titles. Also there's the disadvantage of not being able to move your saves to the legitimate games, so you essentially have a bin full of games just for the sake of making it feel legal and nothing else, as playing on the cart means starting over.
So yes, I understand the argument of wanting all your games in one easy to transport package, but the Card Case 18 is brilliant for that.... just make sure to chain it to your person so you don't leave it behind.
Now breaking the region-lock..... well that's a different matter altogether!
Muffin Awesome
Member
All I want is 1 of 2 things,
A way to back up my carts and a hex editor.
Or
An action replay/code breaker/game shark where I can create my own codes.
I am sorry, but RPGing as a new father isn't like the good old days, time is money. Again this is what my use would be of this, that piracy thing is going to be brutal though.
Furthermore, can game companies please allow for a hex editor application on there devices, just disable my trophies or what the hell ever you measure my online achievements and let me enjoy my damned game...
A way to back up my carts and a hex editor.
Or
An action replay/code breaker/game shark where I can create my own codes.
I am sorry, but RPGing as a new father isn't like the good old days, time is money. Again this is what my use would be of this, that piracy thing is going to be brutal though.
Furthermore, can game companies please allow for a hex editor application on there devices, just disable my trophies or what the hell ever you measure my online achievements and let me enjoy my damned game...
MTE. Piracy on the DS is the reason AAI2 wasn't released here and AA5 is only being released digitally. Reeeally not looking forward to what will happen when people will be able to start pirating 3DS games.
InsaneZero
Member
The game has the region code. The console has the region lock security. The console checks the game to see if it has the right code.
Unless described otherwise, this tool is essentially acting as a 1:1 duplicate of a legitimate game, so it will also the the same code as the original.
Mithos
Member
"Call me" when Nintendo do not need to be involved, until that time it is insane to buy digitally.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
You don't need Nintendo if you have both handhelds.
Chû Totoro
Member
lol
I smell piracy. If not you.. even if your reason is REALLY odd.. a lot of people will.
Bony Manifesto
Member
That remains to be seen...
Freezie KO
Banned
No, because if you're even being honest, it doesn't matter. You represent such an astronomically small subset of people (those with 2 3DS systems, one for home, and one for away) that your particular concern is insignificant. For people with 2 3DS systems, just buy the cart if you're that concerned.
Lol, no, they'll sleep well at night. Just like the people who are salivating at the chance to pirate the hell out of the 3DS library will sleep just fine.
And? The software sales got affected. Again, this isn't a solution, this is just a sidestep to a problem that leads to an even bigger problem.
PaulExcellent
Member
Fair enough.
Hell, I know people that bought R4s for their devices back in the day to pirate.
I got one because of work-related restrictions, and because I wanted to collect DS games.
(Mostly because I really liked the shape of the cases.)
It blows my mind that people believe EVERYONE will use it for piracy.
Most will, yeah. And that pisses me off. I want the 3DS to succeed. It's my favorite console.
But not everyone will.
spons
Gold Member
If and only if it's a real kernel level exploit of the 3DS then everything will be in it for the legitimate users. If not, the 3DS just got a fairly shitty way of doing piracy. All in all, this news is just hours old and nobody understands the device well enough to draw any conclusions.
I will. So there's no argument here.
DiscoJer
Member
Crap. I just bought a 3DS because I didn't think the Vita was getting enough games.
People who think this will be more convenient somehow are being very short-sighted. Does it really matter if you can carry more games around if publishers stop producing games for it?
Despite massive sales of the DS, we saw fewer and fewer games get released for it because of the ease of piracy thanks to flashcarts. The 3DS hasn't had great software support so far, though not terrible, but it's going to only get worse thanks to this.
People who think this will be more convenient somehow are being very short-sighted. Does it really matter if you can carry more games around if publishers stop producing games for it?
Despite massive sales of the DS, we saw fewer and fewer games get released for it because of the ease of piracy thanks to flashcarts. The 3DS hasn't had great software support so far, though not terrible, but it's going to only get worse thanks to this.
I am Michael Bolton
Banned
You realize the DS was had carts too, right? R4? How did it kill the DS?
What if they don't want to carry those games with them at all times?
Show me proof that those pirates would have bought those games that were supposedly affected.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Just because it the effects weren't severe on one platform doesn't means it's effects can't be severe. Basically like any pathogen.
It's foolish to think just because it didn't happen once that it won't happen the next time. In any scenario you'll want to minimise or remove it if it has a very obvious possible negative effect.
Also who says it didn't greatly affect the DS? The DS was a sales juggernaut to it's effect wouldn't be as noticeable anyway.
So what was the excuse on the DS?
Freezie KO
Banned
Of course. I have nobody to lend to, and I know I'm not going to trade in Fire Emblem Awakening ever since I never trade in Fire Emblem games.
Someone doesn't have the same priorities as you! Insanity, right?
thing is after looking at the website
you basically have to carry around each game on a seprete microSD card so you dont have the luxury of all the games on one cart because youd have to chop and change. may as well carry your actual 3ds cart.
UNLESS ITS CHEAPER BUYING MICROSDCARDS &DOWNLLOADING THEM ILLEGALY FOR SHAME
you basically have to carry around each game on a seprete microSD card so you dont have the luxury of all the games on one cart because youd have to chop and change. may as well carry your actual 3ds cart.
UNLESS ITS CHEAPER BUYING MICROSDCARDS &DOWNLLOADING THEM ILLEGALY FOR SHAME
10/10
Portugeezer
Member
cyberheater
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A very interesting read. I love deep dives into hardware hacking.
People used it to carry around their entirely library then too. Shocker, I know. You can go look at the DS flashcart threads that were active at the time where people with huge DS collections used them for that.
D
Deleted member 1235
Unconfirmed Member
hangon.... DS was one of the best selling handhelds of all time and piracy was easy and rampant.... How did this damage DS?
Mithos
Member
Why would I have/own two 3DS at the same time?
Why can't I hold all those DS carts?
cyberheater
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How many digital download games have you bought at full retail?
Okay. Now show me direct proof that piracy was the reason that PSP didn't receive support. I'm basically doing the same thing as you. The DS got support while it had a much larger piracy scene than PSP. It's foolish to think that piracy alone affects publishers decisions to bring a game to a platform.
So you can't prove it? Okay.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
If you were going to get a second one you could sell it after. You can't trade it in but that's about it.
or what was the excuse for the PSP?
Are you really going to be that obtuse? If one can't pirate it, they would have to BUY it or NOT BUY it. There definitely would have been more software sales if there wasn't a way to pirate the software.
Unless he's a publisher himself, I don't think that's really possible to answer.
Not definitely. What if everyone choosed to NOT buy it?
Most of the time they would lean towards not purchasing it or buying it used. So then what?
Then that would mean his claim can't be backed either.
UMD was slow as shit so ripping your games provided a vastly superior experience?
You people must have short-ass memory spans.
PaulExcellent
Member
That's strange.
You know, because some have different priorities than you!
WHAT A CRAZY WORLD WE LIVE IN.
Seriously.
Not everyone likes the eShop. Can you say that there is no excuse for not using it?
You like it because you don't have to worry about lending or collecting. That's cool.
I like it because of the neat new games that are in it, but not the retail aspect. That's cool.
Others don't like it at all.
If you like it, that doesn't mean that everyone does.
Not buying it, buying it used, or buying it new are better than pirating. That's the end of that.
Do you really believe everyone would choose not to buy it? I'm sure some would have bought it.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
I'll see I can find it but there's more than evidence that the rampant piracy on the psp were part of the reasons for it's pitiful software sales.
I figured as much; from what I've read about the 3DS security, it seems like it's essentially impossible for anything to stick with all the checks that have to occur for running backups undetected.
However, if it's one game per SD card as I'm reading here, it won't probably affect that much 3DS software sales (if Nintendo will never try to stop it...and that's not a so likely scenario). DS games saw a decrease in sales (big in Europe) because R4 sold were sold with 10-20-30 games, and having so many games on just one card, for such a low price was convenient. Having one game per SD card, instead? Not at all.