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Major Nelson: Official list of Xbox One X titles
- Thread starter RoKKeR
- Start date
Free texture filtering, and better frame rates (where they were unlocked, up to max), and higher res (if they were designed around dynamic resolution, up to max)
As well as better load times
16xAF
Highest fps possible to be more stable
Higher res if game uses dynamic scaling
Faster loading/streaming assets using the extra 4GB of ram to store assets
Faster HDD shorter loading times
The Elite
BOSS
Once again, this list is expected to grow by launch.
computers putin'
Member
So is forza horizon 3 gonna be 60 fps?
KormaChameleon
Member
Hoping Dark Souls 3 will get added, Didn't DS3 get a Pro patch?
Duchess O'Death
Member
Why is AC Origins in this "true 4K" video while it's been confirmed it's not "true 4K"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlAnthLUa5k
Anything change? or just MS being MS?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlAnthLUa5k
Anything change? or just MS being MS?
Baron_Calamity
Member
Was hoping prey would get some loving.
Okami Haundo
Member
AFAIK, "True 4K" is their marketing buzzword for games that go higher than 1080p. It was never a real way to tell what games were going for native "4K". The only other time I've seen the term "True 4K" being used was to point out that consumer televisions use a derivative of the tech used in the cinema and as a result are actually slightly below that resolution. Hence why we have the term "Ultra HD", as it just pertains to the type of 4K we get on consumer televisions.
Colbert
Banned
it doesn't say "True 4K". It has the "4K" badge. Explanation see below ...
If a game has the 4K badge is can mean one of the following
native 2160p
2160p CBR
Dynamic 2160p
but it always means it has a 2160p frame buffer output and is not upscaled to 2160p.
The following screenshot was taken from news.xbox.com
Okami Haundo
Member
Oh damn, thanks for the clarification Colbert! You are a fountain of knowledge when it comes to this stuff!
Duchess O'Death
Member
It does say "Introducing true 4K gaming" before showing it.
And what do you mean by "4K Badge"? Is it the one in lower right corner? Because it's the same as Forza which is true 4K.
EDIT: I know the badge could mean those 3 rendering techniques, I was talking about the video saying "Introducing true 4K" and showing AC.
Looks misleading to me.
Colbert
Banned
Yes I refer what is in the lower right corner.
Edit (referencing your edit):
Not misleading. You will learn at release. Game renders at native 2160p max and dynamically scaled down using CBR.
Okami Haundo
Member
Yeah... I can't fully speak for the poster you replied to, but I've noticed a trend among Gaffers. It seems that some equate "True 4K" with meaning "Native 4K".
Liabe Brave
Member
This isn't correct. AC Origins is CBR 2160c, not standard 2160p. And CBR isn't any kind of scaling technique, certainly not downscaling.
Also, just because Microsoft have clearly delineated their intent when using "4K Ultra HD" or "true 4K" doesn't mean people aren't misled. There are many threads on GAF where both terms are used as synonyms for native 4K, when that's definitely not what Microsoft intends. (Matters aren't helped when marketing by other companies does use "true 4K" to mean native, like the Gamescom World of Tanks trailer.)
MilkyJoe
Member
I thought it was ages ago too.
Colbert
Banned
(1) If you really so sure about it that my statement is incorrect prepare yourself for a surprise!
(2) Interesting that the "True 4K" triggers so many people. I really don't understand it. The Box plays games in 4K, plays video streams in 4K, records gameplay in 4K, plays BluRays in 4K. So for all content available (except the HDMI In passthrough) it is a "true 4K" output device (explained from a pure marketing POV).
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Digital Foundry will be in meltdown testing all these games.
Yeah, will have loads of split up videos.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
How does the list compare to ps4 pro?
Colbert
Banned
I would ask that question again when the Xbox One X releases as it seems the list will grow until then. I am also sure there should be a thread here on NeoGAF where they maintain that list for the PS4 Pro you asking for.
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
Having a quick look at a PS4 Pro list with minor to major changes these stand out. I hope some of these can get done, decided to backlog several just incase.
- Assassin's Creed Syndicate
- Batman: Return to Arkham
- Battlefield 1
- Bulletstorm
- Call of Duty Black Ops 3
- Call of Duty Infinite Warfare
- Call of Duty Modern Warfare Remastered
- Dark Souls 3
- Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
- Dirt Rally
- Mass Effect: Andromeda
- Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor
- Overwatch
- PREY
- Sniper Elite 4
- Watch Dogs 2
- XCOM 2
Duchess O'Death
Member
Reminds me of this
I know the output is 2160p but the game is not "true 4K". Assassin's Creed Origins is 2160cbr. Just because their wording is "technically" correct, it doesn't make it less misleading.
Phil Spencer also talked about "true 4K" as a different thing than PS4Pro which uses CBR.
Phil Spencer: I look at Pro as more of a competitor to S than I do to Xbox One X. This is a true 4K console.
Liabe Brave
Member
I am certain you are wrong that CBR is being used as a downscaling algorithm. This is literally impossible given how CBR works.
Let's leave aside how condescending and pitiless your sarcastic use of "trigger" is. The use of "true 4K" terminology doesn't trigger people, it just confuses them. Microsoft have clearly stated what they mean by it, but as you say what they mean is a compound trait. The part that applies to games isn't unique to One X, and the parts about video playback aren't either. Multiplex characteristics like this can be tough to keep straight.
The One X 2017 lineup is currently smaller than Pro's 2016 lineup, but the Microsoft list also isn't final yet. More titles will be added before One X launch.
FrozenCell
Member
The un-Checkerboard
Breaker of 30 fps
Mother of Unfair Pixels
Breaker of 30 fps
Mother of Unfair Pixels
Colbert
Banned
(1) As I said be prepared to be surprised on this matter.
(2) We talk about marketing here and the objective of marketing is to present a product in the best possible ways against the competition. They do what they do to achieve that, what I tried to explain earlier just from an assumed MS PR/marketing POV. You don't like it? Fine. I will not try to change your opinion about it.
Colbert
Banned
My last response for today:
(1) Be certain...
(2) No sarcasm...
Good night!
P.S. Have you pre-ordered a Xbox One X?
SimpleCRIPPLE
Member
Doom was part of the announcement at E3 to Im surprised to see it missing from the list.
Your argument makes no sense at all. A marketing deal is just that, a marketing deal to put PS4 logos on adverts. It doesn't mean you can't release on another console.
Technically those games have been available on PC the whole gen which is more powerful still. There is nothing stopping any company listing a game as having an Xbox One X version.
Liabe Brave
Member
Of course the game could be different at release than it was at E3. But no matter what the situation ends up being, your statement was wrong. That is certain.
No.
D4rth Man7iz
Member
No ME: Andromeda and Deus Ex: MD? Those two would benefit greatly from One X's specs. Hope they get updated down the line.
MilkyJoe
Member
Maybe he just forgot about it...
I think that this could be a good place to ask my question:
Games with Gold Deals:
Fallout 4 for 20 or Final Fantasy XV for 25.
Both games will officially get One X support. Which one should I get? I'm a big Fallout 3 fan, but I'm leaning more towards Final Fantasy XV because it is different.
Games with Gold Deals:
Fallout 4 for 20 or Final Fantasy XV for 25.
Both games will officially get One X support. Which one should I get? I'm a big Fallout 3 fan, but I'm leaning more towards Final Fantasy XV because it is different.
Colbert
Banned
Get both! Fallout 4 is very good in my eyes. FF15 I still have to play so I cannot judge it (waiting for the One X to play it).
Christocolus
Member
FFXV is quite different from what you'd be used to. It's unique. I haven't played an FF game since XIII and i've had so much fun with XV.I think you should go for it. It will also look amazing on the 1X.
After seeing Mass Effect on PS4 Pro I'm pretty desperate for a One X patch before I buy it. Enjoyed the trial but looks like the chances of a One X patch are slim.
It's rather odd because Battlefield 1 was apart of their E3 supported games announcement, wonder what's up with these inconsistencies.
Really hoping the majority of these are patched by the end of the year but I have a feeling most won't. Especially games with PS marketing deals. Hope I'm shown wrong