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After finishing Until Dawn, is Heavy Rain/Beyond Two Souls worth my time?
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isaacnukem
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I played Heavy Rain after Until Dawn and I still think it's worth it. I dropped Beyond for some reason. Seems too simplified.
applesaucejaxon
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I hated Heavy Rain but loved Until Dawn. Can't comment on B2S though.
For me, it was all about the story.
For me, it was all about the story.
Gully State
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VibratingDonkey
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I think you can play the PS4 version of Beyond in chronological order, which might make it worth playing perhaps.
I have no idea why David Cage thought it was a good idea to structure the story like an incoherent mess of random scenes. Lost interest and stopped playing like halfway in.
I liked Heavy Rain.
I have no idea why David Cage thought it was a good idea to structure the story like an incoherent mess of random scenes. Lost interest and stopped playing like halfway in.
I liked Heavy Rain.
bitbydeath
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I wasn't that impressed with Beyond because the timeline was all out of whack when I had played, that was apparently fixed later though so it might be more enjoyable now.
Heavy Rain is good, especially the Taxidermy DLC if you can get your hands on it.
Despite being short that DLC is the closest you'll get to Until Dawn experience IMO.
Heavy Rain is good, especially the Taxidermy DLC if you can get your hands on it.
Despite being short that DLC is the closest you'll get to Until Dawn experience IMO.
Because David Cage is actually good at making small scenes, that when isolated can be compelling and emotionally powerful. But when they're strung along into a nonsensical story filled with plot holes, forced "romance" and rape fantasy it turns into a shitshow. Maybe someone thought cutting them up and bouncing back and forth would hide that.
Imbarkus
As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
Not on the PS4 rerelease, if I'm not mistaken.
killatopak
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I'd go with Jason.
Legit had fun with that and my friends.
Legit had fun with that and my friends.
BigBoss007
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Of course not. Terrible games, especially Beyond: Two Souls.
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See, the cool thing about Beyond is that it's totally possible to miss these scenes altogether, giving different players a different story/experience. I missed the bar scene because I had her walk out. Some won't even get to the bar scene because she'll get busted sneaking out.
Personally, I enjoyed going all 'Carrie' on those asshole kids at the party, but again, that was my choice to do so.
Sure, the story was all over the place and for so e reason, the homeless black dude showed up in a vision towards the end, but I can respect what Cage was trying to do.
Kudos to whoever suggested playing HR in French with English subs. I'll give that a shot one day.
manfestival
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I absolutely loved heavy rain. I remember being so glued to the game that I almost played the whole thing in one sitting(never happens even in short games for me). Actually, I remember making a poor decision that I didnt mean to select and realizing in that second that a character would die caused me to lunge at my ps3 to shut it off praying that 2 things happened: that my save wasnt ruined and that it saved it prior to that action sequence. fortunately both were true.
TLDR; heavy rain is a strong recommendation if you liked until dawn.
Just finished until dawn and while I was more invested in heavy rain, I really really really enjoyed the experience. Normally, I hate jump scare anything but this game really got me invested into the entire experience from the beginning. Gotta give props to the writers. Came here looking for the same advice on games that provide similar experiences. I would probably be all into that experience.
TLDR; heavy rain is a strong recommendation if you liked until dawn.
Just finished until dawn and while I was more invested in heavy rain, I really really really enjoyed the experience. Normally, I hate jump scare anything but this game really got me invested into the entire experience from the beginning. Gotta give props to the writers. Came here looking for the same advice on games that provide similar experiences. I would probably be all into that experience.
Ragelink26
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I adore all three! Give them a try OP. It's not like you're forced to finish them if you aren't liking it.
bitbydeath
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Still worlds better than telltale though since decisions actually do matter.
grosvenor_92
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If it wasn't for Ellen Page I most likely wouldn't of finished Beyond.
Rellik
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Or actually try the games for himself instead of listening to GAF.
The Greek Freak
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Heavy rain is both the worst movie I've ever watched and the worst game I've ever finished.
struggler_guts
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No, play some telltale like borderlands or the wolf among us
Black Knight
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Try House Party on PC
semiconscious
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correct! beyond is just plain terrible...
starchild excalibur
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Can't speak for Beyond Two Souls, but as far as Heavy Rain? Hell no
That shit is basically a weak ass episode of Law and Order where you're tasked with doing mundane shit for the first third. Game was disappointing as hell when I first played it.
This. If you're really just jonesing for a narrative-driven experience, play some of the Telltale offerings. Walking Dead, Borderlands, and Wolf Among Us are all really good. Life is Strange is really solid, too. Even some games that absolutely suck gameplay-wise like Everybody's Gone to the Rapture are really beautiful in terms of story and atmosphere.
This, too.
That shit is basically a weak ass episode of Law and Order where you're tasked with doing mundane shit for the first third. Game was disappointing as hell when I first played it.
This. If you're really just jonesing for a narrative-driven experience, play some of the Telltale offerings. Walking Dead, Borderlands, and Wolf Among Us are all really good. Life is Strange is really solid, too. Even some games that absolutely suck gameplay-wise like Everybody's Gone to the Rapture are really beautiful in terms of story and atmosphere.
This, too.
CannonFodder52
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No
OP Neogaf is not the best place to ask for that, since this place is filled with people who hate David Cage.
While his games are flawed, it's an interactive medias with some great scenes.
The main critique for Indigo Prophecy was that the ending was rushed.
But I feel like people automatically call it a bad game just because of this, while the rest of the journey is really really good.
Heavy Rain have more flaw but it's still a great experience to play and it's probably cheap.
Haven't played through Beyond Two souls yet but I won't look at GAF to know if it's good or not, i'll experience it myself.
Detroit on ps4 look amazing and can't wait to get my hands on it.
While his games are flawed, it's an interactive medias with some great scenes.
The main critique for Indigo Prophecy was that the ending was rushed.
But I feel like people automatically call it a bad game just because of this, while the rest of the journey is really really good.
Heavy Rain have more flaw but it's still a great experience to play and it's probably cheap.
Haven't played through Beyond Two souls yet but I won't look at GAF to know if it's good or not, i'll experience it myself.
Detroit on ps4 look amazing and can't wait to get my hands on it.
HelloNewman
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The best way to play Heavy Rain is to fail all the QTE and make all the bad choices it turns into a dark comedy about morons trying to crack a case.
Autoignition
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Heavy Rain and Beyond Two Souls aren't worth anyone's time.
Heavy Rain, absolutely. Even if you dislike it(as some do), there is enough tension from the choices you make to make it worth a try, also the mystery is engaging to follow. It won't supplant Until Dawn, but its both familiar and interesting enough to make it an easy recommend.
Beyond is less so. Central mystery isn't as interesting while the choices lack the same tension. It has a somewhat interesting story it weaves, but only worth checking out if you enjoyed Heavy Rain and are willing to try yet another.
Beyond is less so. Central mystery isn't as interesting while the choices lack the same tension. It has a somewhat interesting story it weaves, but only worth checking out if you enjoyed Heavy Rain and are willing to try yet another.
IrishNinja
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SavoyPrime
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I enjoyed Heavy Rain, but not Beyond Two Souls. I disliked many things about it, but the jumping around through the different timelines was one of them.
Well damn. Idk how I forgot about those scenes. My bad.
You didn't like that? That was my favorite part. Piecing together the timeline was a blast.
Beyond Two Souls is INFINITELY better through the chronological timeline IMO. It also looks really nice. It is worth a playthrough. So is Heavy Rain.
PS4 Remaster. Problem solved there at least a little bit. I could not stand all that jumping around.
PS4 Remaster. Problem solved there at least a little bit. I could not stand all that jumping around.
Wait, there are two version of playing Beyond on the PS4 ??
So, I assume the game originally is not chronological and you can make it chrono with the ps4 version? Do you have to finish the game first to do that?
Nah, I am still doing an eternally sometime I will finish it playthrough of the chrono version on PS4.
It is much preferred IMO.
I appreciate films that do this sometimes, but in no way did this game need that. It just starts to become a jumbled mess in the original version.
Inspector Q
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I really enjoyed my time with Heavy Rain. It is similar to Until Dawn in the fact that it stars multiple protags and made me feel like I needed to succeed every QTE or someone would die. It made the experience that much more intense.
Of course, after playing through the game and coming to the forums, you will learn that only certain scenes and choices will actually lead to character deaths. But still, that initial first experience is very intense as you don't know which QTEs/choices could be fatal.
With Beyond 2 Souls, it was a lot less intense because it only starred Jodie. Every time you screwed up, Aiden would be there to bail you out. It made all the action scenes infinitely less intense as you knew your character was death-proof.
Either way, these interactive story games are few and far between and I look forward to all of them when they come out. Interested in that Hidden Agenda title that is coming out. I am really hoping you can get a solid single player experience out of it, though. The whole Multiplayer focus could potentially ruin it for me.
Of course, after playing through the game and coming to the forums, you will learn that only certain scenes and choices will actually lead to character deaths. But still, that initial first experience is very intense as you don't know which QTEs/choices could be fatal.
With Beyond 2 Souls, it was a lot less intense because it only starred Jodie. Every time you screwed up, Aiden would be there to bail you out. It made all the action scenes infinitely less intense as you knew your character was death-proof.
Either way, these interactive story games are few and far between and I look forward to all of them when they come out. Interested in that Hidden Agenda title that is coming out. I am really hoping you can get a solid single player experience out of it, though. The whole Multiplayer focus could potentially ruin it for me.
NightShift
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Heavy Rain is decent.
Don't touch Beyond: Two Souls unless you want something to laugh at for being so terrible.
Don't touch Beyond: Two Souls unless you want something to laugh at for being so terrible.
Heavy Rain is quite fun, and has the same idea as until dawn about any of the protagonists being able to die. And while the writing has more plot holes than sentences, the premise and the ideas it has are still compelling.
Beyond is just dumb. The game is structured very awkwardly, and there is no sense of stakes in any choices you make. Unless you are an absolute diehard fan of Ellen Page, skip it.
Both are badly written, but I'll still argue Heavy Rain is a good game.
Beyond is just dumb. The game is structured very awkwardly, and there is no sense of stakes in any choices you make. Unless you are an absolute diehard fan of Ellen Page, skip it.
Both are badly written, but I'll still argue Heavy Rain is a good game.
matrix-cat
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I'll always defend Heavy Rain. While the writing is terrible, the story is full of holes and it actually cheats with its murder mystery, it's one of the most genuinely impressive choose-your-own-adventure games there is. The story will branch in meaningful ways from very early on; the map of every possible route would be quite staggering if you plotted it all out. It's in a whole different league from Until Dawn in terms of complexity, quite an amazing feat.
It also has some pretty challenging moments of 'gameplay'. It's obviously all QTEs, but some of those QTEs take some serious finger gymnastics to pull off, and there are genuine stakes to those scenes. If you don't find the right evidence, you won't solve the mystery; if you don't escape from bad guys your characters can end up in jail for the rest of the game, or just dead, and the story will change to account for it. I think it's such a cool game, even if there's so much dumb stuff in it
Beyond Two Souls is just trash. It's almost entirely linear, with only a handful of choices the player can make that have zero lasting effect. You can choose to terrorise a group of rowdy teens and burn down their motherfucking house, and all it gets you is a scolding from Willem Dafoe that never comes up again. You can reject the prettyboy love interest all you like, but Ellen Page still ends up with him. The gameplay is utterly braindead, to the point where your presence as a player is treated more as a nuisance than as a necessary part of the bargain. "Ugh, I guess we should make the player do something in this scene." It goes without saying that the story is stupid, but with nothing else impressive about the game there's nothing to distract you from it.
It also has some pretty challenging moments of 'gameplay'. It's obviously all QTEs, but some of those QTEs take some serious finger gymnastics to pull off, and there are genuine stakes to those scenes. If you don't find the right evidence, you won't solve the mystery; if you don't escape from bad guys your characters can end up in jail for the rest of the game, or just dead, and the story will change to account for it. I think it's such a cool game, even if there's so much dumb stuff in it
Beyond Two Souls is just trash. It's almost entirely linear, with only a handful of choices the player can make that have zero lasting effect. You can choose to terrorise a group of rowdy teens and burn down their motherfucking house, and all it gets you is a scolding from Willem Dafoe that never comes up again. You can reject the prettyboy love interest all you like, but Ellen Page still ends up with him. The gameplay is utterly braindead, to the point where your presence as a player is treated more as a nuisance than as a necessary part of the bargain. "Ugh, I guess we should make the player do something in this scene." It goes without saying that the story is stupid, but with nothing else impressive about the game there's nothing to distract you from it.