I thought about posting this about 20 minutes ago. I figure that they went the Cyborg route to avoid having anyone hog Batman's spotlight.
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I thought about posting this about 20 minutes ago. I figure that they went the Cyborg route to avoid having anyone hog Batman's spotlight.
Weĺl if they wanted someone who absolutely cannot steal spotlight from Batman in any way shape or form, they sure made the right call with Cyborg.
OrangeAtlas
Member
The talks about hounding at a box office bomb got me curious about everyone's predictions this year.
Did we have a separate thread for summer bombs? Anyways taking a look through the 2017 bomb thread, this was the approximate amount of votes:
Valerian – 36
Power Rangers – 19
Monster Trucks – 18
xXx: The Return of Xander Cage – 12
King Arthur: Legend of the Sword – 12
The Emoji Movie – 11
Ghost in the Shell – 9
Blade Runner 2049 – 4
Wonder Woman – 4
The Mummy – 4
The Dark Tower – 3
The Nut Job 2 – 3
Lego Batman – 2
Rings – 2
The Boss Baby – 2
Logan – 2
CHiPS – 1
All Eyez on Me - 1
The Great Wall – 1
Geostorm - 1
Live By Night - 1
Baywatch - 1
Despcable Me 3 - 1
Life - 1
Kong: Skull Island – 1
Dunkirk - 1
Pirates of the Carribean: Dead Men Tell No Tales - 1
Transformers: The Last Knight - 1
Underworld: Blood Wars - 1
Baby Driver – 1
Justice League - 1
Resident Evil: The Final Chapter – 1
Jigsaw - 1
Smurfs: The Lost Village – 1
Paddington 2 - 1
The Six Billion Dollar Man – 1
Patient Zero - 1
Did we have a separate thread for summer bombs? Anyways taking a look through the 2017 bomb thread, this was the approximate amount of votes:
Valerian – 36
Power Rangers – 19
Monster Trucks – 18
xXx: The Return of Xander Cage – 12
King Arthur: Legend of the Sword – 12
The Emoji Movie – 11
Ghost in the Shell – 9
Blade Runner 2049 – 4
Wonder Woman – 4
The Mummy – 4
The Dark Tower – 3
The Nut Job 2 – 3
Lego Batman – 2
Rings – 2
The Boss Baby – 2
Logan – 2
CHiPS – 1
All Eyez on Me - 1
The Great Wall – 1
Geostorm - 1
Live By Night - 1
Baywatch - 1
Despcable Me 3 - 1
Life - 1
Kong: Skull Island – 1
Dunkirk - 1
Pirates of the Carribean: Dead Men Tell No Tales - 1
Transformers: The Last Knight - 1
Underworld: Blood Wars - 1
Baby Driver – 1
Justice League - 1
Resident Evil: The Final Chapter – 1
Jigsaw - 1
Smurfs: The Lost Village – 1
Paddington 2 - 1
The Six Billion Dollar Man – 1
Patient Zero - 1
The notion that anybody thought Logan would bomb is fucking astounding.
He's not involved with DCEU anymore right?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
They went Cyborg because that's what Johns did for New 52. As for why Johns did it? Who knows, but it was apparently his call.
And again: Goyer could have gone with Manhunter, but he believed a) Martian Manhunter was too goofy a name b) his decision to be a homicide detective was stupid and c) the only people who give a fuck about Martian Manhunter are people who "don't get laid."
So Johns is why a lesser Lantern got a movie, and then when that movie got botched, its why the better, more popular Lantern (Stewart) was unavailable for Justice League, and because of Johns choosing Cyborg for his comics reboot instead, Cyborg gets the slot, partially because that's just easier to do since there's (immediate) precedent for it, and partially because Goyer is shitting all over Jonzz as a potential character.
His involvement begins and ends, I believe, with the Krypton prequel he's got set up at SyFy.
He is co-writing and co-producing the Green Lantern Corps movie.
Thanks, Goyer.
He's also working on Green Lantern Corps as a writer I believe. But he is out of the leadership group that's running the DCEU now.
MHWilliams
Member
He's writing Green Lanterns. The rumor is he might be directing it too.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Wait, what?
Seriously?
Last I'd heard they let him play in that Krypton sandbox and that's it.
Why the fuck would they invite him back into the fold? On Green Lantern of all the goddamn things?
Jesus Christ
MHWilliams
Member
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Sneider and the Tracking Board, huh?
So it's 50/50 then.
(so weird how Sneider has picked up the crown Umberto Gonzalez left behind)
Still...50/50 is still 50 too close to reality for my liking.
Do we even know which two Lanterns are in the movie yet? Last I'd heard (and I'm apparently old and out of the loop on this shit) it was gonna be Kyle & John? Maybe?
So it's 50/50 then.
(so weird how Sneider has picked up the crown Umberto Gonzalez left behind)
Still...50/50 is still 50 too close to reality for my liking.
Do we even know which two Lanterns are in the movie yet? Last I'd heard (and I'm apparently old and out of the loop on this shit) it was gonna be Kyle & John? Maybe?
What happened to Umberto?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
He got a job at The Wrap, so his position as one of the last Wild West Movie Rumor Cowboys basically had to come to a close. I think he's run a couple big rumors while he's been there, but his whole thing is a lot more calmed down now.
MHWilliams
Member
When it was announced, Deadline reported it was Hal and John.
But it's a film in production and there are like five Earth-based Lanterns, so who knows at this point.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
"Lethal Weapon in space with Hal & John" written by David Goyer.
Yeah I don't fucking want this.
(I mean, if you want Lethal Weapon in space at least pick Guy Gardner. Jesus)
Yeah I don't fucking want this.
(I mean, if you want Lethal Weapon in space at least pick Guy Gardner. Jesus)
OrangeAtlas
Member
The Wrap put out a supposed shortlist earlier this year for Hal Jordan.
Names include Tom Cruise, Joel McHale, Bradley Cooper, Armie Hammer, Jake Gyllenhaal, and Ryan Reynolds because the man needs second chances whenever a studio screws up his movie.
Names include Tom Cruise, Joel McHale, Bradley Cooper, Armie Hammer, Jake Gyllenhaal, and Ryan Reynolds because the man needs second chances whenever a studio screws up his movie.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
And there's Umberto.
IndoAssassin
Banned
For people claiming Infinity War will make more than Age of Ultron, what new audience will it attract and how?
I don't see how its going to attract a new demographic that hasn't been following the MCU at all to watch it like WW was able to.
I'm not trying to be negative just wondering what the logic is?
I don't see how its going to attract a new demographic that hasn't been following the MCU at all to watch it like WW was able to.
I'm not trying to be negative just wondering what the logic is?
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
Goyer's gonna have a "hold my beer" moment of the DCEU with this movie if that pans out.
sub 25% RT score incoming.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Hal and John.
Oh joy.
Oh joy.
OrangeAtlas
Member
People like endings.
Hmmm...I wonder how final Maze Runner movie will fare.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
This implies that Barry Allen had a personality to ditch.
DarkLordMalik
Member
To like endings, they need to like the trilogy first and foremost otherwisr it will be like The Hobbit trilogy which tumbled down instead of going up.
OrangeAtlas
Member
The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 2 is also by far the lowest grossing of the franchise.
People like endings.
The Infinity Gauntlet storyline ends in Avengers 4.
The rumor that he might be directing was shot down instantly by Justin Kroll.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Saw the first movie on a whim this Friday and it wasn't bad for a YA film. Predictable, but some decently directed scenes.
I think The Death Cure is going to have a rough time though. 1 and 2 came out in September, this one is coming out in February against Fifty Shades and right before Black Panther. And I think Pacific Rim is that month too?
Yeah I thought the first one was surprisingly solid but I never ended up seeing the second one.
The Hobbit stayed very consistant, I don't think tumbling down is the right word for it. That description fits The Hunger Games two part finale better.
And deservedly so. It's an utterly forgettable, anti-climactic bore of a movie that makes sure to stop itself before anything too cool is allowed to happen. And I thoroughly enjoyed the second, and even respected aspects of the third.
It is perhaps the most powerful example of 'blue-balls' I've maybe ever watched.
People like endings.
While it's TV, see also the final season of Breaking Bad, or the second last season of GOT, soaring ratings.
No release date yet, it will release after summer
BronsonLee
Member
BronsonLee
Member
I feel so bad for that movie. Looks so cool but it is going up against a movie that is already being declared an all time classic and one of the best films of the 21st century in Dunkirk.
Except it's not an ending. That was the end of Harry Potter franchise as we knew it. Same for Thrones.
People like endings.
The MCU isn't ending. The Avengers isn't ending. We will have a 5, 6th, 7th , etc Avengers film. 2-3 MCU movies every year.
Avengers 4/5 isn't the finale, it isn't the end of the franchise like all of the other examples. It's just the end of one particular storyline. Everything will keep on going after.
My parents haven't seen an MCU film in the cinema (but seen all up to Civil War at home so far). I'm tempted to take them. More likely the 2019 Avengers though.
They tryin' to fudge the numbers?!
They ran the same promo for Apes and it was a big boost to presales.
Valerian
$88m OW
$304m DOM
$1.1B WW
LordOfLore
Banned
Why Johns put Cyborg in N52 JL: They had been trying to spin him off for years with him leading other Titans teams, co-starring in other books etc. Johns decided to make him the public hero of the Flashpoint universe to see if people liked him in a larger role. Then the higher ups decided they should reboot the universe with Flashpoint instead of it just being a shake up to the Flash book and the rest is history.
It is, but not because it's an ending, but because they botched Part 1 and 2 both, killing much of the franchise interest. I believe the actual book of Mockingbird was not received well either so even fan interest was lower.